what happens when it all falls apart, do you react part of the world, or a member of the Kingdom
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what happens when it all falls apart, do you react part of the world, or a member of the Kingdom
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Pixelated
Clarify please?
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Chuckt
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How would you know they didn't become a Catholic priest or a Protestant minister to escape the Vietnam war?
How many states have you visited Catholic churches or Protestant Churches and met the ministers there? How can you say you know when you haven't been around the world to know the priests of languages that you don't speak?
How many false teachers were mentioned in the Bible and do you think from Israel's history the problem was selfless Levites? Why would you think human behavior has changed since God sent the Jewish people into Babylonian captivity twice and since we still have the same heresies that have existed since the first century? Everything is not okay because people are the way they are today (lost) because you are the way you are and I call myself out on that one too and if you can't be called out on that, God's people don't have a right to call you out because you aren't making God Lord over you.
I don't know about your area but I don't get any assistance of any kind and I never asked for financial. So don't tell me about selfless.
I don't think that religious leaders were meant to live in the lap of opulence. Driving Rolls Royces, living in multimillion dollar mansions, flying around the world in private planes. I know that the bible doesn't address cars & planes but I have a gut feeling that accumulating incredible personal gain while preaching is ungodly.
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Chuckt
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Selfless? It is a privilege to be up in front of people. You get something when you are up in front of people.
There was a nice villa worth a lot of money in New Jersey that the archdiocese sold but the property was for retired priests given as a gift and I don't know the story but sometimes you get things given to you when you are in a position of power.
How many ministers want to give up their church tax exemption to have freedom of speech? Ahh. Don't go there? Oh okay.
You're still quite full of yourself......
I have met many Priests in North, South, and Central America.
I have met many Priests in Europe
I have met many Priests in Asia
I have met Priests in South Africa
I have found them all to be very spiritual and humble. Nothing like the arrogance I see in your posts
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Pixelated
You’re kind of all over the map here. For the sake of enlightening you a bit; my 20 years of military service allowed me to see all sorts of things all over the world that I BET you never experienced.
I’m not suggesting everything is okay. What I am suggesting is broad-brushing every Catholic as bad because of an extreme few is just plain bigoted. When you sum it all up, we are all human and prone to err - lots of them. I'm going out on a limb to bet you're not exempt! But there are some that go beyond the common error of a slip-of-the-tongue, or losing one’s temper, speeding, or being judgmental… There are some, of every breed and belief system, that will purposely do harm to others and continue to until they are caught; and have no remorse while doing so. They are the extreme few. For the sake of Christian argument, they won’t go to the fiery pit any faster and suffer more in that fiery pit than a non-believer.
What I am suggesting is that when it comes to each of us living our ordinary lives on this earth, there are far more, of every breed and belief system, that want to do no one any harm and live honest lives to the best of our abilities than those who don’t. Having faith in God doesn’t change that one bit. What it does change is where your heart is when doing the right thing. When I look at a Catholic I do not see all the priests that abused children. When I look at you (if I were to look at you) I don’t see Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, or Mike Warnke. They are the exception to our human living, not the rule.
And I will caveat this as I did in a previous post… the only thing that distinguishes believers from non-believers in this sense is salvation. Outside of that, most people want nothing more than to live honest lives.
“For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” – Romans 3:23
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Chuckt
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And have you taken statistics in college? How representative of your sample is an accurate sample of the whole?
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Chuckt
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Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires.
http://biblehub.com/2_peter/3-3.htm
Amused_despair
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Umm, I am pretty sure you don't get to "make" God do anything. You may have a different God in mind.
p.s. "God's people" whomever you may feel fits that description, do not get any right to call out anyone other than themselves. Once again, back to the beam in your eye.
Amused_despair
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Fits the bill of most modern "Christians", treating the words of Jesus like a salad bar, picking what they want and leaving the rest.
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Chuckt
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Onel called me a fundamentalists and fundamentalists believe in all the words of God. You can't have it both ways.
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Chuckt
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I didn't make God do anything. What my meaning is that you have to make God the Lord of your life. There is a difference. When you say that God is your boss then you are making God the Lord of your life.
Lord is His title. Jesus is His name. Christ means anointed because Jesus is the anointed one. Lord Jesus Christ.
Lost? No excuse for that these days..not with all the phone navigation apps and Garmins so cheap.
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Pixelated
No, you're a gutter swipe. Found Jesus and now wants to condemn the RCC.......
Radiant1
Soul Probe
Do you ever wonder why the Catholic Church though? I've noticed, generally speaking of course, that when politics and diplomacy need a Christian pov, they go to the Catholics, i.e. the Vatican. When media needs opinions, they go to Catholic experts. When people want to deride Christianity, it's Catholicism (movies, skits, etc). When Protestants aren't Protesting each other, they protest Catholicism. Heck, even the Satanists mock the Catholic Mass by performing a Satanic "Mass" not a Protestant "service". So, why Catholicism? The only conclusion I can come to is that it truly is the bulwark and pillar of truth.
So, my point is, the fact that chuckt is so obsessed on Catholicism being wrong in his eyes, means that Catholicism is a foundation because it's what he compares his own brand of Christianity to. If he truly believed that everyone can interpret scripture for themselves and scripture alone is the authority on Christianity, then he wouldn't be a hypocrite by telling others what they should believe and he wouldn't give to shiats about anyone else's interpretations or expression of it even the Catholics; however, he does, and to me that reveals a bigger picture at work. It tells me that there's something true about Catholicism that even the Catholic haters inadvertently acknowledge.
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Chuckt
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1 Timothy 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1 Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
The Catholic forbids priests to marry and abstains from meat on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday and all the Fridays of Lent.
1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
A bishop must be the husband of one wife.
Paul calls these practices the doctrines of demons.
Amused_despair
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And what was the name of Paul's wife?