The Water Company

Sharon

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willie said:
The houses on Cove Point Rd beside hole #6 are supplied by the Water Co. Since the golf course was owned by the Ranch Club, it is sem-safe to ASSume it is also. Watering the course is from the ponds.
It was kind of a trick question, I already knew where came from. :lol:

What I really wanted to know was the cost of the water to those houses, and if they got water meters installed like the rest of us. I had heard a long, long time ago from a neighbor (who lived here forever) was that those houses didn't have to pay for their water.

It was some kind of deal... similar to the Grandfather clause, where some CRE residents don't pay a normal M&O/Roads fee. They only pay $10 per year and (now) the STD.
 

willie

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Sharon said:
It was kind of a trick question, I already knew where came from. :lol:

What I really wanted to know was the cost of the water to those houses, and if they got water meters installed like the rest of us. I had heard a long, long time ago from a neighbor (who lived here forever) was that those houses didn't have to pay for their water.

It was some kind of deal... similar to the Grandfather clause, where some CRE residents don't pay a normal M&O/Roads fee. They only pay $10 per year and (now) the STD.
I saw them install the meters. I doubt if those inhabitants pay for anything.

Are you sure the $10 per year refers to the Ranch Club? That is what is done in Drum Point because of the original covenants.
 
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Sharon

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willie said:
Are you sure the $10 per year refers to the Ranch Club?
Were you around for the public hearing at PHS before the STD went into effect? It was one of the reasons some members opposed the STD because they were pretty much exempt from the amount of fees most people paid.
 

itsbob

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residentofcre said:
The water tower is not a well. As far as I know they plan to pull from Solomons.... that's how it was designed anyway.
Where does the water come from that is in the tower?? Tower is used to supply pressure to the lines, but where does the water come from to fill it up??

residentofcre said:
I'll work on another plan... cause I have a while to do it.... but let's not forget... when I brought the arsenic problem to the commissioners they didn't begin to lift a finger to assist....

Why should they, if you think the arsenic in YOUR water in YOUR house is a problem then fix it at YOUR house, why make everything the gubments problem? You know the financial well the gov't has is not bottomless..
So because you don't like it the gov't has to shell out millions, where you can take care of your family for less than $150..
 

willie

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Sharon said:
Were you around for the public hearing at PHS before the STD went into effect? It was one of the reasons some members opposed the STD because they were pretty much exempt from the amount of fees most people paid.
I wasn't at the Ranch Club hearing but the same argument was put forth at the Drum Point hearing. Quite a few lots that are physically in Drum Point are under Ranch Club covenants. Maybe some of them were crying. A lot of crazy things were done when Phillipson skipped town.
 
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residentofcre

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itsbob said:
If you think the arsenic in YOUR water in YOUR house is a problem then fix it at YOUR house.

The arsenic problem is gone. The water company came up with a plan and according to the EPA the problem is now solved.

It wasn't my water..The arsenic well is not in my area of the CRE.. it was all of one section of CRE and not my section..... it impacted a lot of families.... It was reported in the Water Company reports to the EPA....

I was called a liar in public when I brought this up years ago.... it was a problem then... and even tho I asked for assistance back then... everyone either ignored me [commissioners] or called me a liar [Water Company puppets]. No one lifted a finger to do anything to bring safe water to the children... and children are the ones that cannot digest arsenic....

What I am saying is we have a problem in the future... it should not be ignored. Someone, you, me, the commissioners.... but someone has got to address the issue .... this is the only way to assure that we will all continue to have water past the year 2025 without breaking the bank to do it....
 

Midnightrider

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residentofcre said:
The arsenic problem is gone. The water company came up with a plan and according to the EPA the problem is now solved.

Its not gone, the arsenic is still there, they are just sending it out to all of us now. And there is no garuntee that the EPA will not drop its allowable levels to below 1ppm in the future, so it could be a problem for all the wells the WC has.




residentofcre said:
What I am saying is we have a problem in the future... it should not be ignored. Someone, you, me, the commissioners.... but someone has got to address the issue .... this is the only way to assure that we will all continue to have water past the year 2025 without breaking the bank to do it....
That someone is the WC. They are a buisness, and by their own estimates, they will be running out of water around 2025. THEY should be the ones coming up with a plan. Since the one they had to get the money as ransom from the buisness park didn't work, THEY should come up with a new one.


So does that tower labeled PBP have water in it? where does it come from?
 

willie

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Midnightrider said:
So does that tower labeled PBP have water in it? where does it come from?
It's my understanding that it is empty. IFresidentofcre is correct, the County will fill it from a well into the bottom of the Aquia at Solomons. It's a matter of who is going to shaft us residential well users first, the WC or the County. Would you trust governments estimates on anything? They have historically failed miserably about growth and give no indication of having learned anything. At least we can elect the County culprits.
 

Midnightrider

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willie said:
It's my understanding that it is empty. IFresidentofcre is correct, the County will fill it from a well into the bottom of the Aquia at Solomons. It's a matter of who is going to shaft us residential well users first, the WC or the County. Would you trust governments estimates on anything? They have historically failed miserably about growth and give no indication of having learned anything. At least we can elect the County culprits.
So why WOULDN'T the county want to use their well, as opposed to using the CRWC well? I see no reason they would want the CRWC to profit from this rather than have the county public works defer some of their costs.
 

Sharon

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So...how's the 2-story mound of green space dirt coming along? :whistle:
 
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residentofcre

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Sharon said:
So...how's the 2-story mound of green space dirt coming along? :whistle:

I'm not sure that is the green space area but the county now has a deed to 2 acres in that area.... further than we were but not there yet....
 
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residentofcre

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Midnightrider said:
So why WOULDN'T the county want to use their well, as opposed to using the CRWC well? I see no reason they would want the CRWC to profit from this rather than have the county public works defer some of their costs.

They probably will use their own well... that's been their intention all along.... but if they were thnking into the future, they would see that the smartest move would be to allow the WC to take the contract and off set the costs of supplying water to CRE in the future.

They probably won't.... but IMO they should...
 
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residentofcre

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Midnightrider said:
Its not gone, the arsenic is still there, they are just sending it out to all of us now. And there is no garuntee that the EPA will not drop its allowable levels to below 1ppm in the future, so it could be a problem for all the wells the WC has.

True... but the problem is solved for today... the amount of arsenic we are receiving now is supposed to be safe for children and pregnant women. [according to the EPA]




Midnightrider said:
That someone is the WC. They are a buisness, and by their own estimates, they will be running out of water around 2025. THEY should be the ones coming up with a plan. Since the one they had to get the money as ransom from the buisness park didn't work, THEY should come up with a new one.


They should... you are right.... I am saying we should be watching them.... to make sure they start planning, budgeting, and implimenting now... before the costs go up any higher and to get the CRE wells out of the Aquia [saving the Aquia for residential use]
 

Midnightrider

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residentofcre said:
They probably will use their own well... that's been their intention all along.... but if they were thnking into the future, they would see that the smartest move would be to allow the WC to take the contract and off set the costs of supplying water to CRE in the future.

They probably won't.... but IMO they should...
Why would the county care how much it is going to cost CRE for water? They have no interest in other comunnities water supply unless it is through public works.
 

Midnightrider

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residentofcre said:
True... but the problem is solved for today... the amount of arsenic we are receiving now is supposed to be safe for children and pregnant women. [according to the EPA]







They should... you are right.... I am saying we should be watching them.... to make sure they start planning, budgeting, and implimenting now... before the costs go up any higher and to get the CRE wells out of the Aquia [saving the Aquia for residential use]
you really should understand this already, but here goes anyway. the CRWC is residential, and unless they do what you say- force the PBP to get its water from CRWC- then it will remain residential. So what is the problem?

The water company is just trying to get someone else to pay for something that they are going to have to do anyway. Hell, i want the county to pay for new siding on my house, but thats not going to happen either!
 
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residentofcre

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Midnightrider said:
Why would the county care how much it is going to cost CRE for water? They have no interest in other comunnities water supply unless it is through public works.


YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!!
 
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residentofcre

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Midnightrider said:
you really should understand this already, but here goes anyway. the CRWC is residential, and unless they do what you say- force the PBP to get its water from CRWC- then it will remain residential. So what is the problem?

The water company is just trying to get someone else to pay for something that they are going to have to do anyway. Hell, i want the county to pay for new siding on my house, but thats not going to happen either!

Since 1989 the County has been taking money from CRE and not returning any. By that I am referring to the fees for every new home, the income taxes, and the other assorted fees and taxes....

This is a chance to change the past. This is a chance for the County to use an innovative approach to assist people.

You know... when you look at it in the future tense... if the water company doesn't come up with something to take the load off the homeowners for the new wells that will be required, the county will have to take over the water supply.... and then George Hanson will be right... He keeps saying the county wants to shut down the water company.... could he be on to something?
 

Sharon

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residentofcre said:
I'm not sure that is the green space area but the county now has a deed to 2 acres in that area.... further than we were but not there yet....
Don't you plan on following it through? You were all up in arms about getting this park for the children a few months ago. What good is a deed when there's still no park? Pretty soon the ground will be frozen and it'll be put off until next year.

I'd like to se it become a dog park, complete with sitting services so people won't have to leave them in the car when they shop.
 
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residentofcre

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Sharon said:
Don't you plan on following it through? You were all up in arms about getting this park for the children a few months ago. What good is a deed when there's still no park? Pretty soon the ground will be frozen and it'll be put off until next year.

I'd like to se it become a dog park, complete with sitting services so people won't have to leave them in the car when they shop.


Yes I plan to follow up on it... but it's an election year and this park has caused a black eye for the commissioners.... I don't expect them to do a single solitary thing with it until after the elections...

I do plan to go to the forums and ask them directly what the plan is and when they are going to bring the concept drawings back to the public....

I'm still up in arms.... and I am really pi##ed at my party right now because I didn't get one question about this park during the primary.... but then again it would have made the "ladies of the BOCC" look bad .... and the party didn't want that to happen.... they have more money...
 
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