There is only one God

Starman3000m

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Knucklesack said:
The TRUTH! :lmao:

Yes, Knucklesack,there is still and always will be Only One Truth.

"I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life; No Man Can Come Unto The Father Except Through Me." (John 14:6)

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.

Fact is: 99.9 % of all religious "faiths" deny that Christ is the Son of The Living God and Saviour whose Blood Atones for the sins of mankind.
That is why when the Truth turns them upside down you will see 6.66
 
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Toxick

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ItalianScallion said:
Like it or not, all the other "stuff" about caves, prophets, voices or revelations is irrelevant to that fact. Nothing Jesus said or did was as important as the resurrection. No other person could duplicate it.

One of my favorite essays on this subject was written by James Beauseigneur, I believe it was called Proving Jesus. And to paraphrase what he said:

Jesus staked his whole claim to authority on His resurrection. Everything else He said and did stands or falls on this alone. If He didn’t rise from the dead, then you might as well take everything else He said and use it to stuff fortune cookies.
 

High EGT

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The argument is over when........

ItalianScallion said:
The bottom line disproving ALL other religions is that Jesus died and came back from the dead on His own power and was witnessed by thousands of people. NO OTHER PERSON IN HISTORY CAN SAY THIS, nor has done it! That makes Christianity the only true belief system and the main reason why I follow it. I am not one of these who follow any belief system blindly. Like it or not, all the other "stuff" about caves, prophets, voices or revelations is irrelevant to that fact. Nothing Jesus said or did was as important as the resurrection. No other person could duplicate it. Ultimately, there are missing links or erroneous statements in the other "bibles" that can and have been proven false. There is no valid argument against this, like it or not. I've said before, the Bible isn't on trial here, we all are. I challenged anyone to try to disprove it.

I would agree Jesus's resurrection is the hallmark within Christianity and we can banter around the subject all day long as to who's religion is more relevent but as for the bottom line, our passing from this world will be the true witness test for each and every one of us and the debate as to the one true God and Savior concluded. That said, I'v placed all my bets on Jesus and regard it as simply an Insurance policy.
:coffee:
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Toxick said:
One of my favorite essays on this subject was written by James Beauseigneur, I believe it was called Proving Jesus. And to paraphrase what he said:
Jesus staked his whole claim to authority on His resurrection. Everything else He said and did stands or falls on this alone. If He didn’t rise from the dead, then you might as well take everything else He said and use it to stuff fortune cookies.
ABSOLUTELY, Toxick! I know of two guys who set out to disprove Jesus' claims and they both wound up becoming Christians because they couldn't. The resurrection alone was their major stumbling point. One was Lee Strobel but I can't remember the other guy's name.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
High EGT said:
I would agree Jesus's resurrection is the hallmark within Christianity and we can banter around the subject all day long as to who's religion is more relevent but as for the bottom line, our passing from this world will be the true witness test for each and every one of us and the debate as to the one true God and Savior concluded. That said, I'v placed all my bets on Jesus and regard it as simply an Insurance policy.
:coffee:
Soitainly! It's like insurance, as you said. We get insurance JUST IN CASE our house gets destroyed. If it doesn't, oh well; but if it does, we're covered. The same with Jesus. If He doesn't exist and we lived a clean life helping others and being moral, what have we lost? But if He does exist and we lived a filthy life, then it's :burning: :bawl: :dead: Easy choice to me.
 

Starman3000m

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Toxick said:
One of my favorite essays on this subject was written by James Beauseigneur, I believe it was called Proving Jesus. And to paraphrase what he said:

Jesus staked his whole claim to authority on His resurrection. Everything else He said and did stands or falls on this alone. If He didn’t rise from the dead, then you might as well take everything else He said and use it to stuff fortune cookies.

Exactly!

Jesus not only told His Disciples that His mission was to give His Life as an Atonement for mankind but also told them that He would rise from the dead.
Jesus' Resurrection also points to a spiritual afterlife beyond the corporal embodiment that we, as humans, are limited to at this time.

Yes, faith in Jesus hinges on His Atonement and Resurrection:

But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:

And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. (1 Corinthians 15:13-15) KJV
 

Starman3000m

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Nucklesack said:
But what if he did exist, but still lived a moral life?

Hmmm...
Morality can be a bit subjective.
Do you know of any person (dead or alive) who has really lived a completely moral life? (Other than Jesus whom the Bible states lived a pure and sinless life)
 

Starman3000m

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Nucklesack said:
Nah, but then i do know many who've done the best they can. Both believers and atheists

Happy Friday Nucklesack!

Yep, I agree that there are many people who have "done the best they can" but "good works" were never part of the Salvation Plan because all of mankind has been sinful at one point or another and fall short of the Glory of a Pure, Righteous and Holy God. (The Holy Bible states that because of Adam's transgression, all of mankind has inherited the penalty of transgression and that is death)

Jesus proclaimed that He did not come to save the righteous but to save sinners through His Atoning Blood - and that He came to Give Eternal Life.

This is the unmerited favor that we receive from God because our good is really not good enough and while we were yet sinners, Christ's Atonement paid the penalty of sin on our behalf.

Jesus proclaimed: Greater Love has no man than to give His Life for His friends - and that was His Mission

God Did For Mankind What Abraham Was Going To Do For God.
 

Marie

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Nucklesack said:
Nah, but then i do know many who've done the best they can. Both believers and atheists
Why Callest Thou Me Good
Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.


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Matt 19:17a And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God


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Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

John 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.
"There is no man who does not sin" (1 Kings 8:46). "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). And we are incapable of changing our sinful condition. Jeremiah 13:23 says, "Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil."

That doesn't mean we're incapable of performing acts of human kindness. We might even be involved in various religious or humanitarian activities. But we're utterly incapable of understanding, loving, or pleasing God on our own. The Bible says, "There is none righteous, not even one; there is none who understands, there is none who seeks for God; all have turned aside, together they have become useless; there is none who does good, there is not even one" (Romans 3:10-12).
 
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