Hey, I'm obviously a better person than Peter Jennings because I'm alive and healthy and he'sGoofing_Off said:
This just caught me funny...
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Dull Knife
He probably was using a dull butter knife at that. Sounds like a big waste of good electricity to me. This is similar to the person threatening to jump of the WW bridge awhile back and the cops knock him off with a bean bay gun in order to break the deadlock. Why not just use a gentle nudge.
vraiblonde said:http://somd.com/news/headlines/articles/2432.shtml
Guy threatens to commit suicide, so the cops taser him to make him drop the knife.
But I'm curious - if someone wants to commit suicide, why waste the cops on it? Why not just let him go for it?
He probably was using a dull butter knife at that. Sounds like a big waste of good electricity to me. This is similar to the person threatening to jump of the WW bridge awhile back and the cops knock him off with a bean bay gun in order to break the deadlock. Why not just use a gentle nudge.
... Paging Mr. King.
Ach! Because we value human life, that's why.Instigator said:
At least some of us do.
What's that got to do with it? Christopher Reeve's widow is younger than me and she's got the black lung, too. So God must love me more than He does her.BuddyLee said:But you're not 67 yet.
Goofing_Off
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Atheism does inevitably lead to utilitarianism, so it's good that you at least prove a philosophical point.vraiblonde said:Ach! Because we value human life, that's why.
At least some of us do.
Actually, I just looked and she's 3 years older than me. Which means I still have some time.BuddyLee said:Then statistically speaking between the two, you should watch out around 55.5.
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Sure - and if he were on acid, or stoned, or drunk, and wandering out in the middle of a highway, or heading to a cliff - we should just let him. It's his life.vraiblonde said:
In all honesty, I think when people are that massively distraught, they might as well be on drugs - their capacity for rationality is seriously diminished. We, as individuals would CERTAINLY try to talk a friend or relative off a ledge. But what if they don't have any? Who'll come to help them?
Forcing a stop to a suicide I think IS a violation -but there's certainly nothing wrong with persuasion. I think a moral society OUGHT to at least pretend to persuade.
(On the other hand - last night, the wife and I saw a CSI about a guy who fell off a building and LANDED on another guy, killing him. Maybe the danger - or inconvenience - of dealing with a dead body is worth considering).
Tonio
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I don't know why. Maybe the law was designed to protect the person's loved ones. Of course, the loved ones may have had enough of the person's issues and may see the suicide as euthanasia.kwillia said:
If you're convicted of trying to kill yourself, do you get the death penalty?
Well, if he's endangering others he should be stopped, obviously. But why stop someone who gets stoned and wants to jump off a cliff?SamSpade said:
All the more reason, I would think. Unless you're planning on being this guy's new best friend and take care of him, nursing him through his trauma. Is it the Muslims that believe if you save a man's life you're now responsible for it, because you thwarted Allah's will? I can't remember...
Well, wait a minute. How do you know a person is attemping suicide unless they actually get the job done? So it must be the actual suicide that's against the law. And how do you prosecute a dead person?K_Jo said:
kwillia
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I'm not making it up...
Considered a sin in many religions, and a CRIME in many jurisdictions
Legal views of suicide
Ironically, the punishment for attempted suicide in some jurisdictions has been death. Although a person who has successfully committed suicide might be thought to be beyond the reach of the law, there could still be legal consequences. For example, in the UK prior to 1961 their estate was forfeit.
The United Kingdom abolished the crimes of suicide and attempted suicide in the Suicide Act of 1961. By the early 1990s only two USA states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification. Increasingly, the term commit suicide is being consciously avoided, as it implies that suicide is a crime by equating it with other acts that are committed, such as murder or burglary.
Considered a sin in many religions, and a CRIME in many jurisdictions
Legal views of suicide
Ironically, the punishment for attempted suicide in some jurisdictions has been death. Although a person who has successfully committed suicide might be thought to be beyond the reach of the law, there could still be legal consequences. For example, in the UK prior to 1961 their estate was forfeit.
The United Kingdom abolished the crimes of suicide and attempted suicide in the Suicide Act of 1961. By the early 1990s only two USA states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification. Increasingly, the term commit suicide is being consciously avoided, as it implies that suicide is a crime by equating it with other acts that are committed, such as murder or burglary.
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Goofing_Off said:
Welcome to the world of the "Moral Minority". Personally I grow tired of subsidizing a weak and groveling society!
Just out of curiosity, how do you prove your quote or is it based on blind faith alone 