Trudy, help me out here

Toxick

Toxick

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truby20 said:
These types of inequalities will lead to some type of revolution, I hope it’s peaceful.
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I don't think these types of inequalities will lead to a revolution.


But I sure hope there is one - and I certainly hope it's not peaceful. I hope it's savage, long and bloody and I hope it reminds the entire ****ing world what we fought for 200 years ago before we became a land of milquetoast lotus-eating weenies, and started abandoning everything that we once stood for and returning to the tyranny of King George of our own volition.




But that's not really what I wanted to address. I wanted to address those inequalities that you're lamenting... Do you suppose that those inequalities outlined in the tweet could possibly be caused by something other than the unfairness, greed and cut-throat selfishness of every human being on earth that had the wonderfully good fortune to be born right before you were?

Or do you think that the accumulation of high salaries and wealth (such as it were) is possibly a function of experience and time, and the fact that someone has more it's because they've been there longer and therefore have had more experience and time to acquire it?


I work with a bunch of millenials. They all seem to be doing just fine.

Definitely better than I was doing in my 30's... not as well as I'm doing now - on account'a long years and experience.
 
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truby20 said:
yeah, body piercings are causing people to miss rent payments

Check out this:



The most educated generation in this country’s existence will have the lowest amount of wealth at age 35 since they are saddled with immense debt just so they can be employed at a livable wage.

These types of inequalities will lead to some type of revolution, I hope it’s peaceful.
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All of the millennials I personally know must be in that 3% + category. They have purchased homes and cars, does that make them rich or stupid for not giving half away?
 
Merlin99

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truby20 said:
The only thing the conservatives seemed worried about was making sure only abstinence was taught, they certainly weren’t in the schools offering career advice.

Why do you think the majority of instructors are liberal? There are certainly enough positions, but it’s a pretty thankless job with not the greatest pay, I guess they do feel a need to help the next generation and aren’t focused solely on earning money which seems to be driver of a more conservative perspective.
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I'm going to go with the old adage, "those who can do, those that can't teach"
 
truby20

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Toxick said:
I work with a bunch of millenials. They all seem to be doing just fine.

Definitely better than I was doing in my 30's... not as well as I'm doing now - on account'a long years and experience.
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You, like most of us on here, are above average and have lifestyles that afford us enough leisure to be commenting on a forum, so those you surround yourself with life and career wise are probably the same caliber. I'm not surprised that the millienials you know are doing fine, a lot are, but fewer are compared to previous generations. That's the point I was making.
 
Toxick

Toxick

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truby20 said:
You, like most of us on here, are above average and have lifestyles that afford us enough leisure to be commenting on a forum, so those you surround yourself with life and career wise are probably the same caliber. I'm not surprised that the millienials you know are doing fine, a lot are, but fewer are compared to previous generations. That's the point I was making.
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It's cyclical. Since time out of mind:

I'm sure you've heard:
Hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times.... Repeat.....

If you time-traveled someone from the 1930's to today, I believe they'd have a lot to say about how "tough" millennials have it, compared to previous generations. I believe that we're currently somewhere along the "weak men make hard times" spectrum, and I believe it's going to get a lot tougher before it gets better. Pointing fingers at previous generations is counterproductive. Hopefully Generation Z or their children will figure that out and we can start the Strong Men make good times rebound.

Too bad I'll probably long dead by that time, though.
 
Gilligan

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truby20 said:
but fewer are compared to previous generations. That's the point I was making.
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Think harder about that for a sec....because you are simply pointing out exactly the underlying attraction of socialism..failed though it always will be.
 
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I was at Applebees and a pleasant, younger female (early to mid 20’s) came in to get her carry out. When they told her it was not ready, she stated“ I ordered it over 30 minutes ago, why not?” The employee just mumbled something about must be busy and disappeared. She looked at me and stated “people of my generation screw everything up”. I almost snorted my beer when I saw a Trump image on her keychain.
So Truby, maybe it is just you.
 
Monello

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I think some of this article explain people's perception of why some do well while others struggle to get ahead. Given how you perceive an issue determines which party ideas you align yourself with.

Democrats and Democratic leaners are more likely to say the reason someone is poor generally has more to do with circumstances beyond their control (69%) than with a lack of effort (18%).

Among Republicans and Republican leaners, a larger share says a person is poor more because of a lack of effort (48%) than because of circumstances beyond an individual’s control (31%).
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Recap
Poor is beyond your control
D = 69%
R = 31%

Poor is due to lack of effort
D = 18%
R = 48%
About seven-in-ten Republicans (71%) say a person is generally more likely to be rich because they worked harder than others, and just 18% say a person’s wealth is more likely to be the result of having more advantages in life.

By contrast, just 22% of Democrats say wealth is generally more likely to be the result of working harder, while 62% say it generally has more to do with advantages others did not have.
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Recap
Rich worked hard
D = 22%
R = 71%

Rich had an unfair advantage
D = 62&
R = 18%

link
 
Gilligan

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Monello said:
I think some of this article explain people's perception of why some do well while others struggle to get ahead. Given how you perceive an issue determines which party ideas you align yourself with.


Recap
Poor is beyond your control
D = 69%
R = 31%

Poor is due to lack of effort
D = 18%
R = 48%


Recap
Rich worked hard
D = 22%
R = 71%

Rich had an unfair advantage
D = 62&
R = 18%

link
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IF Darwin's theories are still valid...Dem leeches/parasites will go the way of the dinosaur, not being able to survive on their own.
 
Monello

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Gilligan said:
IF Darwin's theories are still valid...Dem leeches/parasites will go the way of the dinosaur, not being able to survive on their own.
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That is the problem with social programs. Not only does it keep these people alive but it also encourages them to breed beyond what they are capable of raising. Mo kids = mo money. The low IQ people are out reproducing the higher IQ citizens. The dumbing down of America.
 
vraiblonde

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truby20 said:
I believe the economy of our country is at a point now, after what 150 years of industrialization, that people who work 40 hours a week deserve the basics of life, even if that means they work in the service industry. We're a country of abundance and people who work deserve shelter, food, and healthcare.
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If you live in a reasonable state you can live quite nicely working in the service industry. Maryland, not so much because state taxes are ridiculous and they rape you coming and going, but you can be a food server in Texas and own a home just fine.

The little bitchers are the ones who ruin their state by voting for high taxes and property values, then cry when they can't afford anything.
 
vraiblonde

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truby20 said:
The most educated generation in this country’s existence will have the lowest amount of wealth at age 35 since they are saddled with immense debt just so they can be employed at a livable wage.
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They're clearly not educated if they can't calculate something as simple as income vs. outgo. The youngsters you're referring to have been commercialized and pop cultured to the point that that they think it's third world torture to not have the latest greatest iPhone. They have all these toys and gewgaws, yet "can't afford" to have their own home or pay for their own healthcare.

They spent a chit ton of money majoring in "Feminist Studies" and other worthless endeavors, and are now unemployable. They spent their college years "protesting" and throwing themselves on the floor like a toddler instead of getting an education and making contacts.

Had they lived within their means and learned a trade - plumbing, electrical work, automotive repair, etc - they'd be debt free and have a career that isn't going away any time soon.

They could have gone into the military and not only learned a trade, but come out with job opportunities galore AND a GI Bill college fund. Give it 20 years and you "retire" at 38 with a guaranteed lifetime income and medical care, and are still young enough to embark on a second career.

Choices. They made bad ones. And their parents get a punch in the throat as well because they should have steered the kid toward something with a future that they could afford.

Not to mention there are plenty of young people who are doing just fine. The made realistic decisions for their future and are living a peachy adult life.
 
truby20

truby20

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nutz said:
I was at Applebees and a pleasant, younger female (early to mid 20’s) came in to get her carry out. When they told her it was not ready, she stated“ I ordered it over 30 minutes ago, why not?” The employee just mumbled something about must be busy and disappeared. She looked at me and stated “people of my generation screw everything up”. I almost snorted my beer when I saw a Trump image on her keychain.
So Truby, maybe it is just you.
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Sigh

yes, 2019 is the first year retail and restaurant workers mess things up

And why are you at Applebee’s? All that food is microwaved. You should have just gone to Panera, same quality of food, just a cheaper price 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
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