Trump on track to surpass all of Obama's travel costs in 2 years or less

[SamSpade]

Sure but what do you want to do about it ....

I'm still wait and see with Trump. Right now China feels threatened by his willingness to begin a trade war with them, and despite campaign promises, he's willing to bargain the currency manipulator thing for some action on North Korea.
His unpredictability will wear off and result in less confidence in him, but for the moment, it's rattling our adversaries and less than compliant allies.

I'm still not sure he wouldn't send in a SEAL team to take out Un.

 

[PsyOps]

How would you know until you get their .....

When I was in the military I had no idea what to expect in my upcoming assignments. I was assigned to some places that really sucked; but I worked there knowing full-well I volunteered for this and I'm going to make the best of it.

Sure but what do you want to do about it ....

Well, if you're fed up, I certainly wouldn't expect you to just sit down and keep taking it up the ###. And that's exactly what you appear to be doing. That makes US the problem. If i can't change your mind about this, then what can I do about it? Not damn thing.

 

[Clem72]

Yes. He was very unpopular by the time he left office. And, you're right, history has treated him very well. You mentioned Hillary's treatment of the S.S. This piece had a little jab at Ike as well.

Ike was too swagly.

 

[GURPS]

I'm still not sure he wouldn't send in a SEAL team to take out Un.

I see that as a complete waste of time ....... unless you are trying to tell the dog don't #### on the floor, with a rolled up news paper
removing one dick head that will get replaced with another dick head is a waste of resources

Well, if you're fed up, I certainly wouldn't expect you to just sit down and keep taking it up the ###. And that's exactly what you appear to be doing. That makes US the problem. If i can't change your mind about this, then what can I do about it? Not damn thing.

well the last election was all about Establishment vs NON - Establishment
and look what that got you .... now what ?

 

[SamSpade]

I see that as a complete waste of time ....... unless you are trying to tell the dog don't #### on the floor, with a rolled up news paper

removing one dick head that will get replaced with another dick head is a waste of resources

My concern with that whole family of leadership is, they're all freaking crazy - and they have nuclear missiles.
Un had his own brother killed. This reeks of Roman emperor kind of crazy. European monarch despot crazy.

If we're lucky - the Kim family will run out of heirs.

 

[GURPS]

My concern with that whole family of leadership is, they're all freaking crazy - and they have nuclear missiles.
Un had his own brother killed. This reeks of Roman emperor kind of crazy. European monarch despot crazy.

If we're lucky - the Kim family will run out of heirs.

Yep, I get that as well ..... but the Generals and other party officials who have some power if the Kims are all gone ...
ok one nut JOB with nukes is a problem, now spark a civil war as party members and generals fight over control

it will be like the break up of the Macedonian Empire after The death of Alexander the Great only with WMDs

 

[This_person]

History does not disagree. At least your version might disagree but actual history supports what I stated.



http://www.lincolncottage.org/home-for-brave-ideas/

One-forth of the Lincoln's time was spent at the Soldier's Home. As I stated before, the majority of their time was spent living in the White House.



https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+...istory--and+future--of+caring+...-a0158628350

. As I said, a great deal of time.

As for Bess Truman, she did live in the White House and Blair House in DC. Not fulltime but she did live there and did spend extended amounts of time in MO as well.

Again, you are agreeing

That leaves Mrs. Harrison. As I stated before. She was ill when her husband was inaugurated in March 1841. They planned for her to move to the White House in May 1841 when she was well enough to travel but he died 31 days into his term so the move didn't happen.

So, bottom line, there has been no First Lady who chose not to ever live in the White House.

Well, now you are putting a whole new wrinkle on it by saying "chose" and "ever." It's my understanding that Mrs. Trump is choosing to move there later, so by this new and different criteria, she also would be like the rest of the First Ladies

 

[PsyOps]

If we're lucky - the Kim family will run out of heirs.

Maybe one of their nuke tests will misfire.

 

[black dog]

Maybe one of their nuke tests will misfire.

We just did a cool non- nuke test a few minutes ago, I wonder if the crazy NK is paying attention. One could end up in his living room.

 

[Gilligan]

Maybe one of their nuke tests will misfire.

The recent high-level NORK that defected reportedly claimed that the next nuke test coming up had the potential to effectively sever the only rail and road connections to parts of the country farther north. Said it could be a huge one.

 

[awpitt]

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Well, now you are putting a whole new wrinkle on it by saying "chose" and "ever." It's my understanding that Mrs. Trump is choosing to move there later, so by this new and different criteria, she also would be like the rest of the First Ladies

I hope you are right about Mrs. Trump. So far, in this exchange, you have been incorrect about the history.

 

[Merlin99]

If the White House sucks, he shouldn't have taken the job. I am fed up with nothing changing in Washington. I am fed up with our elected people "changing their minds". I'm fed up with these people making all sorts of promises just to get elected; playing us for suckers. How long do we - the people - have to tolerate more debt, ever-expanding government, more intrusive government...?

And now our president has gotten into another foreign mess - Syria. Parking our ships off the coast of North Korea. Pissing off Russia. Are you ready for more Americans to die; and for what?

Just once, I'd like to see a politician stick with what they promised.

Comes right down to would you rather have Hill in the WH instead? That was the choice.

 

[Hijinx]

Comes right down to would you rather have Hill in the WH instead? That was the choice.

and an easy choice to make it was.

 

[This_person]

I hope you are right about Mrs. Trump.

Of course I'm right about Mrs. Trump.

So far, in this exchange, you have been incorrect about the history.

Only when the boundaries were moved. Claim was no presidential wife ever lived outside the White House, and I found and reported on several, proving the claim wrong. Then, the boundary of the claim (not yours, mind you) was that, for the claim to be false the presidential wife must have never chosen to live in the White House. So, now there's no point in the claim at all, because that claim would be true for Mrs. Trump as well. So, we're back to square one.

 

[Larry Gude]

Comes right down to would you rather have Hill in the WH instead? That was the choice.

No, it wasn't. That was simply a part of it. That contention means that, to those that are bought so cheaply, nothing, NOTHING else could be worse than that.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'm still wait and see with Trump. Right now China feels threatened by his willingness to begin a trade war with them, and despite campaign promises, he's willing to bargain the currency manipulator thing for some action on North Korea.
His unpredictability will wear off and result in less confidence in him, but for the moment, it's rattling our adversaries and less than compliant allies.

I'm still not sure he wouldn't send in a SEAL team to take out Un.

It's perfectly reasonable to wait and see, an idea in short supply it seems, and pass judgment on Trump somewhere after the first 100 days of a 4 years job. He's done nothing disqualifying so far and, in any event, the D's seem hell bent on making themselves absolutely unacceptable in the mid terms. I mean, do they not recall the results of the GOP impeachment line on Clinton? That said, I just don't know what the man truly intends to do. When unpredictability is your stock in trade and most of your campaign promises are being tossed overboard, by you, in the first 100 days, it does make one wonder. I agree it's interesting this China dynamic but he's putting a lot of time and effort into something that isn't any more, or less, a problem than it has been. It feels like a cheap tactic to elevate NK's importance and I don't think very many people knew ISIS was in A'stan to begin with.

Repeal of the ACA is gone. The Southern wall was not and is not ever going to become reality. China was supposed to be about trade, not NK. Is NAFTA being renegotiated? Is TPP truly dead? The Florida trips just plain looks bad and is so clearly at odds with another campaign point of his about being at the WH all the time.

On the plus side, we are on better terms with the only other power on the planet that can destroy us all. Oil seems stable. He seems to be following through, whether it's good or bad, on getting ahold of immigration.

As for some spec ops operation against NK leadership, that ain't happening because it can't work. They'd never get in let alone kill him and never mind getting back out.

 

[SamSpade]

The Florida trips just plain looks bad......

As I'd previously stated - I'm highly skeptical of the 3 million dollar claim for each trip to Mar-A-Lago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...74ccaf1d02f_story.html?utm_term=.1283fc66b350

Apparently, I'm not the only one. When sources critical of Trump quote *each other*, and the guesstimate is based on a trip made by Obama - I'm doubtful.

One MILLION per trip still seems a little high, but I am more likely to believe THAT than the oft quoted number of 3 million.

 

[Larry Gude]

As I'd previously stated - I'm highly skeptical of the 3 million dollar claim for each trip to Mar-A-Lago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...74ccaf1d02f_story.html?utm_term=.1283fc66b350

Apparently, I'm not the only one. When sources critical of Trump quote *each other*, and the guesstimate is based on a trip made by Obama - I'm doubtful.

One MILLION per trip still seems a little high, but I am more likely to believe THAT than the oft quoted number of 3 million.

The cost is beside the point when you make a campaign point that the guy you're seeking to replace isn't there enough and suggest you'll be there all the time.

 

[awpitt]

Of course I'm right about Mrs. Trump.



Only when the boundaries were moved. Claim was no presidential wife ever lived outside the White House, and I found and reported on several, proving the claim wrong. Then, the boundary of the claim (not yours, mind you) was that, for the claim to be false the presidential wife must have never chosen to live in the White House. So, now there's no point in the claim at all, because that claim would be true for Mrs. Trump as well. So, we're back to square one.

No boundaries were moved. You claimed there were three First Ladies who didn't live in the White House. The only case where that is remotely true was the case with Mrs. Harrison and that was because her husband died before she had a chance to move to Washington. The other two, Mary Lincoln and Bess Truman, lived in the White House while spending summers elsewhere on vacation.

 

[awpitt]

The cost is beside the point when you make a campaign point that the guy you're seeking to replace isn't there enough and suggest you'll be there all the time.

Exactly!!!!