Trump Trial
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CNN published an chastened op-ed yesterday evening titled “Honig: The prosecutors may have gone ‘a little too far’ during Stormy Daniels testimony.” That’s what she said.
Most of the media’s column inches on the various Trump cases yesterday were devoted to washed-up, B-roll pornographer Stormy Daniels’ play-by-play descriptions of ancient alleged intimate encounters with the former President. By all accounts, her testimony was X-rated, undignified, unworthy of the Court, and totally over the top, which resulted in Trump’s exasperated team seeking a mistrial at least once. Judge Merchan, who at times even tried himself to shut Stormy up, denied the mistrial motion but admitted that lots of salacious stuff should never have been said. As you know, we always take the high road here at C&C, and I won’t dignify Stormy’s wild stories of presidential spankings any further.
The utter lack of dignity and self-respect in these proceedings make for some kind of metaphor here, but I’ll leave exploring that to you guys in the comments.
Much more interesting, and much less covered, were developments in Trump’s much more dangerous classified documents case. CNN ran a tearful story yesterday headlined, “Federal judge indefinitely postpones Trump classified documents trial.”This case, arising from FBI’s dramatic raid on Mar-a-Lago, is one of the three other criminal cases pending against Trump, besides the Stormy Daniels’ mischaracterized expenses case. The classified documents case has long been considered the most serious case, the case offering liberals their best hopes for undemocratically derailing Trump’s presidential ambitions.
But some remarkable issues have arisen with the evidence. CNN’s article was light on details, but reported the most important development to CNN: Judge Aileen Cannon canceled the current trial date — without setting a new one — since she’s facing eight substantial new motions she has yet to rule on. To give you an idea how substantial, one of the motions is scheduled for a three-day hearing.
But the issue of FBI evidence tampering might have been the most interesting out of a raft of very interesting Trump team issues. Do you remember this widely-circulated picture?
The photo — unimaginably leaked by the DOJ — was one of the pictures allegedly taken by the FBI during the Mar-a-Lago raid. Many observers, including me, opined it looked like FBI drama queens had deliberately staged the documents, dramatically spreading them out on the floor, intending to manufacture a media picture for later leaking.
Either way, that picture did the job. On August 31, 2022, for example, Washington Post fact checker Philip Bump explained to readers that the “question of whether Trump had classified material with him at his Mar-a-Lago resort has captured the public’s attention. The photo published by the government appears to answer that question quite affirmatively.”
It turns out those of us who smelled an FBI rat were right, as the government has recently been reluctantly forced to admit. At least, we were right that the documents were not originally found on Trump’s office floor. Rather, they were neatly stored in secured bankers’ boxes. The FBI altered the evidence by throwing it all over the floor helter-skelter, putting stupid tape measures under it to look official, and adding a silly evidence tag (“2A”), like they were marking the location where the fatal bullet casing was found.
But it turns out it was so much worse. Thanks to heroic work by Trump’s lawyers, and following several stern orders from Judge Cannon forcing the government to respond to basic discovery requests, we’ve now learned that the documents in the picture aren’t even the documents in the picture.
What I mean is, the FBI has now admitted that the documents seen splayed on the floor are dummies, props. At the time the picture was taken, the original classified documents had already been secured and removed. So the FBI took some other random papers and — get this — put classified cover sheets on them and then posed those dummy documents on the floor. Picture time.
Not only weren’t the documents found on the floor, and not only weren’t the documents in the picture the actual documents, but the official-looking classified document cover sheets as seen in the photo were totally fake. There were no classified cover sheets on any of the original documents. It was all made up. Here’s how the government warily tried to explain the operation in one of its recent filings:
And now, they’ve even lost track of at least some of the documents and their fabricated placeholders. The government carefully admitted:
“In many instances.” But not all. Worse for the government, over the last year or so, its lawyers have repeatedly insisted that the bankers’ boxes were preserved exactly in their original conditions. But the government’s latest filings and admissions indicate those repeated representations to the court were false.
It’s not a mere technicality. Trump’s lawyers have offered various legitimate reasons why the FBI’s poor handling of the evidence has fatally compromised the case. For one thing, they’d intended to show that everything in the boxes had been packed in sequential date order, proving the documents were undisturbed from when the National Archives staff originally packed them for Trump to take with him.
But now the documents are all mixed up, not even in the same bankers’ boxes in which they began. Nobody knows anymore.
So the government now faces two new, potentially fatal problems: the evidence tampering (or at least, evidence negligence), and lying to the court. And the CNN article mentioned, this is just one of the many complex and potentially novel issues now confronting the government’s case.
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SamSpade
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It SHOULD be a mistrial at this point - there was absolutely zero need - she's not a material witness, her testimony, especially the long-winded lurid details have nothing to do with whatever it is they're actually trying to charge him wtih - and you can't unring that bell no matter how much instruction is given to the jury.
Once the defense begins, they need to make the case for a mistrial - there's no UNprejudicing the jury now.
Frankly, the prosecution at that point may have created such an entangled case for a crime - they might be willing to go with that, rather than see an acquittal.
Once the defense begins, they need to make the case for a mistrial - there's no UNprejudicing the jury now.
Frankly, the prosecution at that point may have created such an entangled case for a crime - they might be willing to go with that, rather than see an acquittal.
They're counting on the American Publics 15 second attention span to hear the headline "Trump Convicted" and never a word beyond that through election day.
Every last one of these cases are nothing more than a way to smear him through the election year.
StmarysCity79
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How does it make him look bad?
Most of you idiots will think more highly of him for bagging a porn star.
You already defended him saying he can grab women by the pu$$Y. He wants to screw his own daughter. Has multiple wives and divorces.
This is hardly going to change most deplorables view of him.
Hijinx
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You won't convince me that Stormy Daniels was not rehearsed by the prosecution to spew this testimony ,perhaps even threatened with prosecution herself if she did not.
She signed 2 documents saying there was no affair. What is the lie? Her previous statements or her testimony in court?
Add the FBI creating evidence of the classified documents. The fact that Fani Willis sent her boyfriend to the White House for information, the fact that Jack Smith was appointed illegally.
Got Damn somebody needs to go to jail, and it aint Donald Trump.
First the Hillary Russian Hoax, the Soros money to elect Attorney Generals, The manipulation of Bragg to invent a case ,the false rape case, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, the ignoring of documents in Bidens garage, going through Melania's underwear, 2 impeachment, one when he was already out of office the J-6 Pelosi insurrection hoax on and on and on, Its phucking sickening, a million illegals being brought in to vote Democrat .Enough is enough, it's time this bullshit was stopped .Our government is being destroyed right before our eyes.
She signed 2 documents saying there was no affair. What is the lie? Her previous statements or her testimony in court?
Add the FBI creating evidence of the classified documents. The fact that Fani Willis sent her boyfriend to the White House for information, the fact that Jack Smith was appointed illegally.
Got Damn somebody needs to go to jail, and it aint Donald Trump.
First the Hillary Russian Hoax, the Soros money to elect Attorney Generals, The manipulation of Bragg to invent a case ,the false rape case, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, the ignoring of documents in Bidens garage, going through Melania's underwear, 2 impeachment, one when he was already out of office the J-6 Pelosi insurrection hoax on and on and on, Its phucking sickening, a million illegals being brought in to vote Democrat .Enough is enough, it's time this bullshit was stopped .Our government is being destroyed right before our eyes.
StmarysCity79
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Do you know you are talking about multiple different cases?
The defense was free to object and already had her testimony limited.
Is this going to keep you from voting from him? Everyone knew he was a scumbag before this didn't they?
Do you think these are all the same case?
Half of the things you list don't even make any sense and are just stupid propaganda fed to you by Newsmax.
The scandalous Stormy Daniels show trial in New York was recessed yesterday, so there was no news, but there was a major development in the Fani case, which wormed its way up to the top of yesterday’s news. The Atlanta Journal Constitution ran the story headlined, “ANALYSIS: What could appeal of DQ fight mean for Fulton Trump case?”
The news — which was proper news, since something actually happened yesterday, not decades ago — was that Georgia’s appeals court accepted the Trump Defendants’ appeal of Judge MacAfee’s denial of their motion to disqualify DA Fani Willis and her office from the case.
The first casualty was the case. The Journal-Constitution, obviously depressed and on its way to pick up several fifths of Jack Daniels with which to drink itself into oblivion, was forced to admit that “with the question of Willis’ removal tied up in appeals court, any major action on the underlying Trump election case will be postponed until well into 2025.”
Womp womp. Someone should order the AJC a wellness check.
The pained and exasperated AJC explained to its readers that Georgia’s courts of appeal are notoriously slow, and the soonest the appeal can be reasonably expected to be resolved is early next year. After the election. Which, by the way, is not that slow for an appeal, but I digress. Next, the AJC tearfully observed, whoever loses will then appeal to Georgia’s Supreme Court. So who knows how long it could take?
The Fani Willis case is now, for all practical political purposes, D.O.A.
But while there’s no more electoral upside for Fani, there’s still plenty of downside. District Attorney Fani “front me a G” Willis is now embarking on a new romantic adventure, this time in a Masterclass exploring the age-old aphorism, act in haste, repent in leisure. The AJC listed the Masterclass topics under a sub-headline starkly warning, “Possible nightmare scenarios for Willis”:
Not only that, but the frisky DA is currently running for re-election, and faces a primary challenger on May 21st — coincidentally the same day the clock runs out on comedic President Zelensky’s term — and if she survives that, she’ll face a Republican opponent in the general election. Meanwhile Judge MacAfee is continuing to hear the many other procedural challenges to the derailed train wreck of a case, keeping the whole sordid story squarely in the nation’s klieg lights.
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Even the biased Judge Merchan has had enough of Cohen’s antics, and on Friday, he ordered Cohen’s lawyers to tell him to pipe down:
Cohen is a truly despicable character, but he's only one of the lowlifes the prosecution is depending on to convince jurors of their credibility.
Even a CNN analyst can't quite wrap his head around the fact that this is who they're using to try to get a former president convicted:
The antics displayed by Michael Cohen are turning Judge Merchan ‘feckless’
Cohen’s prior promise lasted only a couple of days.
For Judge Merchan, this is precisely what he was warned about.
He has stubbornly enforced his poorly written and excessively broad order on Trump.
Trump is now appealing the gag order and Cohen is doing his best to undermine not just his residual credibility but that of the court.
Between the lurid testimony of Daniels and the continued antics of Cohen, Merchan looks completely feckless, if not farcical, in his own courtroom.
There is an old fable of a scorpion who wants to cross a river and convinced a hesitant frog to carry him on its back.
After all, if he stung the frog in the river, they both would die.
When the frog asks the stinging scorpion why he would doom them both, the scorpion replies: “I couldn’t resist the urge. It’s in my nature.”
Cohen has always been open as a grifter.
The problem is not Cohen.
He continues to act to his nature.
The problem is a political and legal system that enables him as a serial liar.
It is a system that continues to call Cohen to the stand and ask him to swear to God to offer the “truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” without a joke drum roll before his punchline.
Now even leftists think putting Stormy Daniels on the stand trashed Alvin Bragg's case against Trump
Taft then noted that the other thing that came out at trial was that she tried to extort him for cash, while the getting was good.
A recorded phone exchange revealed this:
"You better settle this God damn story. Because if he loses this election, and he is going to lose, if he loses this election we lose all ****ing leverage this case is worth zero. And if that happens, I'm going to sue you because you lost this opportunity," said Stormy's lawyer Keith Davidson to Trump's then-fixer Michael Cohen, who then badly advised Trump to pay the extortion money.
Sound like extortion? It does to anyone normal.
And that contradicted her claim on the stand that she wasn't interested in money, only in telling her story.
Lying comes easy to her, because it's what she does for a living. Her schtick, after all, is talking and acting dirty for cash.
That's not just the view of us normal people watching the case far from New York City.
Even leftists at the scene are saying she shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the witness stand.
Fox News quoted a CNN legal analyst saying Daniels was a disaster for the prosecution:
Hijinx
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I thought I noticed a bit of gray the other day. Well he is of the age of grey hair and the tribulations the Dems have put him through this year are worthy of grey hair.
WingsOfGold
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Trump now has the Jew Lite vote.
Unlike you and your dim witted brethren, Hijinx is able to discuss more than one subject in a single thought stream. You and your comrades are doing anything and everything to prevent Trump from becoming president again and you're doing a very poor job with your make believe charges. And just so you know, many people, normal ones at least, do in fact change their outlook and beliefs as they get older, including Trump. Just because you and your contemporaries have gotten more batshit crazy with age, doesn't mean everybody does. You had better wipe that spittle from your lower lip, before you're mistaken for a rabid bitch-dog and put down like you should be. Do you not realize that you're the laughingstock of the forums with your venomous hatred and spewing of lies towards the future president?
Have a good day, God even loves the idiots.