Unnecessary Loss Of Life

maegenn

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ya'll have no idea

PJumper said:
On July 29 at 3:42 a.m., a 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt was traveling southbound in the 8800 block of Derby Court in Dentsville when the driver, Amber Marie Rose, 16, of Marbury, lost control of the vehicle. The vehicle left the roadway and struck a tree. Rose was transported to Civista Medical Center where she was pronounced dead shortly thereafter. It does not appear Rose was wearing her seatbelt. Speed and alcohol are considered factors.
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To those who don't know, I am Maegen Dean, Amber's best friend. Some of the things that I am reading about, bother me. I think it's interesting to see all of the point of views that are being thrown out here. There are definatly some things I want to comment on.
As I can see by just reading these posts more then half of you have no idea who Amber was, and I feel horrible about that because she was an awesome person. It bothers me that you can say the things that you say not knowing who she was, and the situation. I'm 17, and I know im young, but when I talk with my parents about the things they used to do when they were 17 and the lie's and schemes that they told there parents, there simialar to the ones that I have told. Amber lived her life on the edge, had fun doing whatever it is that she wanted to do, I was the one who always had some kind of fear. We all know that Amber made a mistake driving that night, and it cost her her life. No one can fix that now and no words can bring her back and that sucks. I had moved to Virginia about a year before Amber's car accident. Even though I was so far away I talked to her every day, we'd still get in the same silly fights just over the phone. I had seen her about a month before she passed away and she hadn't changed at all except for the fact that she was 100 times more responsable. I had texted her earlier that day on July 29th and got to talk to her on the phone for a bout 3 minutes before she had to go run around doing things. She called me later that night but I didn't have the service to answer. That next morning at 6 a.m. I got the phone call from her mom, it was the worst feeling in the world, and I was completly lost. I don't have the closure that I would like to have and I know that one day hopefully I will get it. Not a day goes by when I dont wake up and think about her, and not one night before I go to bed. We were the kind of friends that would grow old together, the kind of friends people were jelouse about because no matter how mad and upset we were, we never left each other's side. I don't have the kind of relationship now with anyone and probably won't come across another on like it. I don't think that some of you realize that her closest family and friends read the things that you people having no idea who we are or who she was, post. I hope that you never have to be so close to someone and then have them ripped completly out of your life, and if that does happen to you then my heart goes out to you. But when you get a phone call from a friend giving you the site to where people are talking about Amber and they didn't even know her, think about how that would make you feel. She's not here to defend herself, so why put thoughts out there like she can answer them? Some of ya'll don't know where she got the alchohal at, don't know why she was out late, don't know why she left, and thats the thing, ya'll have no idea. So try to think about that before you say some of the heartless thing's that you are saying, because people who love her and miss her and still to this day feel like a huge part of them is missing, are reading this. I just thought that all that might have needed to be thrown out there. But for the people who care, we know she is in a better place.

For the family that didn't know her, she was a great person and I'm sorry you never got a chance to meet her.

Well I'm finished saying what I have to say, I hope some of you realize now. But sometimes people just don't get it. <33 Maegen
 

mainman

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As long as this thread is, I'm sure this has been said before but here are my thoughts:

Just as our parents, we do the best we can to give our children the tools to function in the outside world. We try to teach them right from wrong and millions of other lessons. No matter how good of a parent you are and no matter how great of a kid you have bottom line is, kids are gonna do stupid things. Just like our parents did before us, and like we did before our kids, and they will do before their kids. It's a part of life, everyday we are faced with choices, dozens upon dozens of choices. Sometimes we make the wrong choice and the consequences are fatal, sometimes they are not. This kid made a choice, a bad one, and paid the ultimate price, she lost the most precious gift we are given. If just one person that she knew (or didn't know) hears her story and doesn't get behind the wheel of a car after drinking than she has not died in vain.

And to the girl that just posted that they were friends. Always remember her, and she never truly dies...........:huggy:
 
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vraiblonde

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Well said, Mainman.

Like it or not, when Amber died and got her name in the papers, she became a topic of conversation. It's just the way it is. It's unusual for a young girl to lose her life, therefore people want to discuss it.

Nobody blames the parent, at least I don't. And I don't think anyone really blames Amber herself - teens always think they're bulletproof (as someone pointed out previously). This is nothing new.

But rather than being defensive about what you perceive as criticism, take a step back and realize that these comments are only made in hopes of saving the life of some other teen who gets it into their head to go out partying and drives home drunk in the wee hours.

And, honestly, this thread was LONG buried until the cousin revived it, then called everyone she could think of to contribute. So if you don't want people talking about it, QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT YOURSELF ON A PUBLIC FORUM.
 

Sharon

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maegenn said:
Amber lived her life on the edge, had fun doing whatever it is that she wanted to do

vraiblonde said:
Nobody blames the parent, at least I don't. And I don't think anyone really blames Amber herself - teens always think they're bulletproof (as someone pointed out previously).


And, honestly, this thread was LONG buried until the cousin revived it, then called everyone she could think of to contribute. So if you don't want people talking about it, QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT YOURSELF ON A PUBLIC FORUM.
:yeahthat:
 

snfr02chic

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vraiblonde said:
And, honestly, this thread was LONG buried until the cousin revived it, then called everyone she could think of to contribute. So if you don't want people talking about it, QUIT TALKING ABOUT IT YOURSELF ON A PUBLIC FORUM.

And this has what to do with the topic of conversation?
 

snfr02chic

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vraiblonde said:
Are you just stupid?


Yup, that's it exactly!!! Thanks..been trying to figure that one out forever and you just hit the nail on the head!! Sometimes it's a little hard for me to converse with idiots, so I try to put myself in their shoes, but I guess I just come across as stupid to those of you who I'm trying to converse with.
 
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vraiblonde

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snfr02chic said:
Yup, that's it exactly!!! Thanks..been trying to figure that one out forever and you just hit the nail on the head!!
I'm glad to help.

I guess I just come across as stupid to those of you who I'm trying to converse with.
Yeah, well, a lot of people do that. Don't worry about it.
 
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Bruzilla

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maegenn said:
For the family that didn't know her, she was a great person and I'm sorry you never got a chance to meet her.

Well I'm finished saying what I have to say, I hope some of you realize now. But sometimes people just don't get it. <33 Maegen

Maegan, I can tell you for a fact that there is something that's as bad as getting that phone call telling you that your friend or family member has died, and that is being the person who has to make that call. I had to call a father in Oklahoma at 2:00AM one morning to inform him that his son had just died in an accident south of NAS off Evergreen Rd on Saturday. Believe me, that's one call no one should ever have to get or make.

Like Amber's Uncle, you make the mistake that this was a unique event. It isn't. You talk about how we don't know your friend or her situation, but let me assure you that we do. The names are different, the faces are different, but the events are the same. You talk about your friend "living on the edge", I've known way too many kids who wanted to "live on the edge" who are now deceased or in jail.

What I honestly hope you take away from reading these posts is that when your, or your friends', parents are strict there's a reason. There's hundreds of other Ambers and Andys out there on the roads, living on the edge, as you read these words and it's just a matter of time before circumstances catch up with them just as they did with Amber. It's one of the saddest facts of life that as you get older you'll be hearing about all these kids and realizing that Amber's situation wasn't unique. And when you have kids don't slack up on them by saying "I did the same thing when I was a kid." In fact, don't tell them anything about what you did as it'll do nothing but help them to justify their own wreckless behavior, which is exactly what you're doing now.

You can best honor Amber's memory not by putting up memorials or posting sentimental comments on this forum, but by being the meanest, strictest, mother who ever lived and keeping your kids from sharing her fate.
 
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RoseRed

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Bruzilla said:
And when you have kids don't slack up on them by saying "I did the same thing when I was a kid." In fact, don't tell them anything about what you did as it'll do nothing but help them to justify their own wreckless behavior, which is exactly what you're doing now.

Agreed!

There are things that I did, that in no way shape or form, would I share with my daughter until she is an adult, if I ever even do.

I used to laugh at my Mom about how she was such a goody-two-shoes. I took after her younger sister and was a wild child.

My Aunt didn't speak to me for years until I confronted her in 1992. She said she didn't want to be held responsible for my actions since we were so much alike.

BTW... again, we don't speak now. My life is on track, her's must not be, but that was her decision. :lol:
 

tomchamp

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RoseRed said:
Agreed!

There are things that I did, that in no way shape or form, would I share with my daughter until she is an adult, if I ever even do.. :lol:

Forums are all about sharing! LOL :peace: We are all ears! :lmao:
 

vraiblonde

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The saddest thing I ever saw in my whole life was the parents of my son's classmate going up to accept her posthumous diploma at graduation. She died racing to school because she was late, took a corner too sharp and *bam* - right into a telephone pole.

Kids don't think about this stuff, but parents think about it every time their teen walks out the door.
 

Mikeinsmd

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vraiblonde said:
The saddest thing I ever saw in my whole life was the parents of my son's classmate going up to accept her posthumous diploma at graduation. She died racing to school because she was late, took a corner too sharp and *bam* - right into a telephone pole.

Kids don't think about this stuff, but parents think about it every time their teen walks out the door.
Damn... :bawl:
 

laurag

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I'm sorry for your loss, but I fail to see what was so heartless about Bruzilla's comment. Drivers who drink and speed endanger us all. So you're damn lucky she didn't take out a few other people with her.

In 2004, 16,694 people lost their lives in alcohol-related car crashes - that's about 40% of all traffic fatalities nationwide. And every single one of those deaths were completely preventable.

You lost your daughter, and I sympathize with you - if it had been my daughter, I would be heartbroken. But let's not call others heartless when they call a spade a spade.

It is so sad to read the uninformed post. If anyone would like to know all of the facts, let me know. I am Amber's birth mother. We "remet" one year to the day she died. She worked for me at my company. Note: You may want to look at the Chevy Cobalt. The air bags among other things were defective.
 

laurag

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Right. So someone gets all drunked up and jumps in their car and kills themselves or someone else - just an accident. Couldn't have been prevented. Nothing she could have done differently to change the outcome.

Well, let me tell you something: one of our forum members had her step-daughter killed by a drunk driver. Why don't you tell HER that it was "just an accident"? I'm sure she feels REAL sorry for the family of the guy that murdered her step-daughter because he just HAD to have all that booze and then drive his stupid self home.

I'm done with this topic. Ya'll sob on each others shoulders and curse the mean people who DIDN'T drive drunk and kill someone.

:rolleyes:

Amber did not endanger the life of anyone else except herself that night. When you are 16 you just do not realize that sometimes you do not get a chance to make a different choice. That there really can be a "game over". That being said have you ever made a choice in anger, desperation or hurt? Did you get the chance to make a different choice the next time? If Amber's air bags had worked properly, she would have as well.
 

Merlin99

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It is so sad to read the uninformed post. If anyone would like to know all of the facts, let me know. I am Amber's birth mother. We "remet" one year to the day she died. She worked for me at my company. Note: You may want to look at the Chevy Cobalt. The air bags among other things were defective.
It's been 5 years I hope you've accepted things by now, anyways I'm still sorry for your loss.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
I have to say that if you dont wear your seatbelts, then the airbags are dangerous going off than if they dont. They are designed to lessen the impact forces on someone who is correctly positioned, and that positioning is done by the seatbelts. I would be glad to discuss airbags in details, as I an very conversant with how they work. Most folks, for instance, mistakenly think airbags wil protect them in a side crash. Many kinds of crashes wont trigger a deployment. Since I have no details of this crash, its hard to say.

What makes you think the bags were defective? I'm not attacking, but asking, so I can help you learn more about how they work.
 
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