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Dear Dad,MMDad said:MM, as your father, I command you to apologize to BS.
Signed,
Darth Vader
Don't forget, I get to pick the home you go into when you get old.
~MM~

Dear Dad,MMDad said:MM, as your father, I command you to apologize to BS.
Signed,
Darth Vader
mainman said:Dear Dad,
Don't forget, I get to pick the home you go into when you get old.
~MM~![]()
Respect your dad's wishes and send me a bigmainman said:Dear Dad,
Don't forget, I get to pick the home you go into when you get old.
~MM~![]()
snfr02chic said:A 3 month old thread was bumped b/c I did not realize it was that old...and it was bumped again for like the 50th time because people were asking questions and I was trying to answer them!!
Well, I agree with it too.BuddyLee said:This posted by PrchJrkr in which case Cablechick agreed with a. Does this automatically make this everyone elses opinion?
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BuddyLee said:This posted by PrchJrkr in which case Cablechick agreed with a. Does this automatically make this everyone elses opinion?
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TerryD said:The comment was heartless. Let me make one thing clear. I do not defend my daughters actions!! She did wrong, very wrong and the rest of us are paying for it. Yes, thank God she didn't hurt anyone else. I am a big sponsor for MADD and I stand behind their beliefs. I just think that some things are best left unsaid. Just remember the person you are talking about is no longer with us, it's the ones that are left and in pieces that have to hear these comments and I just think people should think twice before they say things like that.
Fear of retribution/ punishment from my dad kept me straight, and it only took one butt whippin at an early age to get that point across.kwillia said:I didn't drink and drive as a teen, I didn't drive recklessly, I feared the consequences of getting caught.
snfr02chic said:Yes we are strangers...but if I may say so...didn't you all start out as strangers? Is this how all new members get treated? Judged and left without the slightest shred of sympathy?
BS Gal said:It's a tough world out there, but we all need to be more sensitive. When I posted that my dad was dying from lung cancer, nobody came on and said "Well, it's his fault cause he smoked." Nobody even went there. I'm just trying to give back the support I am getting.
snfr02chic said:didn't you all start out as strangers? Is this how all new members get treated? Judged and left without the slightest shred of sympathy?
TerryD said:As for this young lady, her death was a matter of a formula of speed+alcohol+weariness+inexperience, all of which were factors that she was in total control of at the time of the crash. Sorry to say it, but I just don't feel very sorry for people who just toss their lives away like that.
My reply to you for saying this is, I can only pray that you NEVER have to suffer the loss of a child or loved one. I don't understand how people can make such heartless comments like this. This is my daughter you are talking about. Yes she acted unresponsibly but it WAS NOT worth her losing her life over.
Suz' said:Terry-I am sorry you lost your daughter at such a young age.
The problem with many people on this board is once their opinion is formed no one is going to change it. EVEN if they are being opinionated @ssholes.
Please don't let their unsympathetic comments make things tougher for you then they already are. They're just not worth the effort.
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Midnightrider said:Right there with ya Suz
A lot of people spout off here a bunch of things they would never say if they were in the same room with you, evenone here has made mistakes, especially as teenagers.
I can relate as i lost a family member who was way too young,
I'm sorry for your loss.
vraiblonde said:Right. So someone gets all drunked up and jumps in their car and kills themselves or someone else - just an accident. Couldn't have been prevented. Nothing she could have done differently to change the outcome.
Well, let me tell you something: one of our forum members had her step-daughter killed by a drunk driver. Why don't you tell HER that it was "just an accident"? I'm sure she feels REAL sorry for the family of the guy that murdered her step-daughter because he just HAD to have all that booze and then drive his stupid self home.
I'm done with this topic. Ya'll sob on each others shoulders and curse the mean people who DIDN'T drive drunk and kill someone.
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Bruzilla said:Sorry to say this, but it wasn't just your daughter that was acting irresponsible, you were as well. While I do feel sorry for your loss, I've also been in the law enforcement arena long enough to have seen many boys and girls just like yours end up the same way that yours did. And in most of those cases the causes are the same, and the reaction of parents is the same. You are personalizing this case, as you have every right to. I am generalizing this case, but as a means to convey a message to other parents, not to be mean or uncaring to you or your family.
The car that you allowed your daughter to get is not safe for a child her age. Maybe for you, but not for a rookie driver. My daughter is 19, and I helped her buy her first car... a Mercury Sable station wagon. It's big, heavy, under-powered, and can take a serious hit before conveying force to the occupants. Of course she wanted a small, sexy, sporty car, but it fell upon me as her parent to tell her that I would not help her out with that purchase. If she wanted a car, she was going to get a safe one. I also helped my oldest son, who also wanted a nice, fast, little car to cruise in. He's driving a 1973 Plymouth Satellite with a small V-8... again, underpowered, overweight, and lots of crumple space.
I'm always amazed at parents who will support their kids getting these lightweight, small, cars to start out in. Sure they look nice, but as you point out... an airbag is worthless if it doesn't deploy, and it will only deploy under specific circumstances. Crumple zones and heavy steel construction are working 24/7. Parents don't start their kids riding a bike on a 10-speed racer, they start them on a tricycle. So why do some feel it's okay to start them driving any differently?
Also, my wife and I have kept very close track of our kids as they've grown up. We've constantly instilled an appreciation for following rules, and punishment for violations. Like other parents we talked to our kids about the dangers of alcohol, but unlike other parents we also talked to our kids about the dangers of needing to fit in, or do things they know they shouldn't to impress other people. The best anti-drinking message in the World is worthless when contrasted with a need to impress others.
So, is my comment that your daughter's death was a matter of speed+alcohol+weariness+inexperience heartless, or am I just speaking the plain truth? You can call me uncaring, unfeeling, heartless, and many other names... believe me my kids have called me all of those at one point or another over the years. But my kids have also learned from the misadventures of children like yours. They've known girls who got pregnant, they've known kids who died in auto accidents, they've known kids who are trashed on drugs and booze, and they've learned that it isn't a load of BS when they're told these things are bad. And while your daughter's death is tragic, it is my hope that many other parents hear what happened to her and take a few extra minutes to double-check where their kids are, to not just dismiss as teenage antics things like smelling booze on their kids, and to keep in mind that their kid in a car is no different than they were on that tricycle and remember that just because some salesman or TV commercial proclaims that a car is "safe" doesn't mean that the basic laws of physics have been changed.
I certainly don't mean to drag this on or to hurt the parents of the victim but for the sake of getting some word out to other parents I will go on. It seems as if Amber made a mistake and that's fine, we all make mistakes. However, Amber not only made a mistake, she made a mistake on top of that one and then another mistake on top of that one. She lied to her parents--mistake, she was out past her curfew--mistake and against the law, she was driving drunk--mistake and against the law, and she was driving without a seat belt--mistake and against the law. Again, I don't mean to harp on the parents on this matter, hopefully others will take notice that they need to drill certain ideas of responsibility into their childrens head. So that, drunk or not, it will be second nature to not make THIS MANY MISTAKES. Simply subtract one of these mistakes and Amber may still be alive today.happy2bmom said:You should get your story right before saying such things. Amber's parents thought they knew where she was. They did all the right things, they asked where she was going, they called the parents of the girl she was supposed to be staying with to verify that is where she was. Kids find a way to do most things that they want to, know matter how hard you try to keep them safe.