Wait, I thought no one was above the law?

vraiblonde

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This is outrageous because the judge has judged the law itself.

And they can't do that. All of these activist judges jumping in to say law enforcement can't enforce the law should be ignored. They have no jurisdiction or authority to make any such ruling.
 

SamSpade

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And they can't do that. All of these activist judges jumping in to say law enforcement can't enforce the law should be ignored. They have no jurisdiction or authority to make any such ruling.
In Ancient Rome, the public got sick to death of judges who ruled based on their own personal feelings. So they created something called the Twelve Tables, which were tablets of bronze with codified laws on them. For one of the first times in history - the law was codified. No longer could a judge give any sentence or fine or ruling they wanted.

It’s bad enough we have judges who rule either harshly or with leniency- because of how they interpret the circumstances -

But a judge that defies the law must be removed from the bench. They’ve betrayed the public and have proven themselves to be incapable of rendering a decision impartially.
 

vraiblonde

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But a judge that defies the law must be removed from the bench. They’ve betrayed the public and have proven themselves to be incapable of rendering a decision impartially.

Exactly. Judges don't get to choose what laws they uphold or not, yet that is precisely what Democrat judges do when it suits their corrupt partisan interests. AND it just goes to show how cultish and brainwashed Democrat voters are that they are okay with it.....as long as it's their guy doing it.

Democrats are trying to say illegal aliens have protection under our Constitution (they don't) and should be treated like American citizens (they shouldn't), also that law enforcement cannot be allowed to....enforce the law.

I mean, at some point it's just 🤷‍♀️ What do you even say to people so outside the realm of reason and sanity?
 

vraiblonde

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What do you even say to people so outside the realm of reason and sanity?

And on that note:

MEN ARE NOT WOMEN.
WOMEN ARE NOT MEN.

Men can cut their junk off and get breast implants, and they are STILL not women.
Women can get a fake penis and load up on synthetic testosterone, and they are STILL not men.

How did we even get to this point?
 

GURPS

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Men can cut their junk off and get breast implants, and they are STILL not women.
Women can get a fake penis and load up on synthetic testosterone, and they are STILL not men.

How did we even get to this point?


3rd Wave Feminism and Identity Politics
 

Ken King

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I absolutely agree with you. Judges who are lifetime appointments have free passes. That is not right.
What is not right is your contention that they get free passes. There seems to be conflicting aspects of the Constitution with regard to the Federal Judiciary. One being the "impeachment clause" and the other is the "good behavior clause" which seems totally different and not simply a reiteration of the former and could include many aspects of their conduct beyond criminal acts.
But a judge at the lowest level ruling only means you appeal to a higher court until you get to the supreme court. That is the way our constitution was designed and that is the way you beat the lower court judges.
Really? Inferior courts were not designed to have national authority, they were created to handle matters within their designated jurisdiction, period, Going beyond the jurisdictional limits would be something that could easily be viewed as not of "good behavior", same with failing to recuse oneself and many other violations of judicial rules and/or canons.
 

22AcaciaAve

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But that takes forever and Democrats are getting some corrupt pissant judge to jump in on everything. Republicans didn't do that to Biden, or any other president. Democrats haven't done it to any other president. When Obama deported however many million illegals do you know how many Republicans - or Democrats, for that matter - jumped in and demanded he go through a judicial process for each and every one of them?

Zero.

We have immigration laws on the books. These activist corrupt judges are ruling....that we shouldn't obey the laws. 🤪 That's exactly what they're doing - saying law enforcement has no right to enforce laws.



So a couple of things about that:

Democrat Governors are doing exactly that in many states. And no I'm not going to look it up for you. If you cared about truth you'd already know. I could post links out the ass and you wouldn't even look at them.

Also, the Second Amendment is part of our Constitution. It's in the Bill of Rights. And not far after that there's an amendment that says states cannot take away the rights of the People that are granted in the Constitution. We have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms; foreign nationals do not have a constitutional right to enter our country illegally and commit violent crimes.

nd.Foreigners entering our country illegally and harming American citizens is an invasion. If the Russian army landed in DC and started killing people, would you say there had to be a judicial process for each and every one of them to remove them? Because it's the same thing. You can pooh pooh and say it's not, but it is. Foreign nationals entering our country illegally, killing and raping American citizens. That's what it is. The e

When your cult leaders tell you these violent illegal aliens are just poor misunderstood cherubs, they're lying to you. This "Maryland Man" that you all seem to worship is an El Salvadoran gang member and human trafficker, not to mention a wife beater. Your masters will show you a photo of Nicholas Sandmann literally just standing there and tell you he's a horrible racist who deserves to be punished, yet they blur out the photos of violent criminal illegal aliens that are surrounding the White House.

Are you that sucked into the cult that you can't be even slightly reasonable?

Well I am sorry we disagree. I don't care about who did what to any other president. I care about the rule of law. If lower courts have findings against anyone, take it to the higher court. That is what the constitution is all about.

We have immigration laws on the books.

No we don't have strong enough immigration laws on the books. That is the problem. It has been a problem for 40 years now. How about doing something about that? Republicans have always claimed they will fix it, never did.

I could post links out the ass and you wouldn't even look at them.
That's not true, but post them from independent sites. I'm not looking at posts from newsmax, Msnbc, National review, or Huffington post. They have their own agenda and I am not interested in what they have to say. Too much bullshit for me to deal with.

Foreigners entering our country illegally and harming American citizens is an invasion. If the Russian army landed in DC and started killing people, would you say there had to be a judicial process for each and every one of them to remove them? Because it's the same thing. You can pooh pooh and say it's not, but it is. Foreign nationals entering our country illegally, killing and raping American citizens. That's what it is. The end.
Do not disagree. So why can't congress pass laws that can deal with it? Congress now is both the house and senate as republicans with a republican president. So do it. What is the problem? As for what you say about the Russians, yeah I agree. I'm not pooh poohing any thing, you seem to think about. If anything I want to see the Russians eliminated. Anything that kills any Russian people and weakens their army is good with me. Again, foreign nationals entering our country without going through the process should be eliminated.
When your cult leaders tell you these violent illegal aliens are just poor misunderstood cherubs, they're lying to you.
Are you that sucked into the cult that you can't be even slightly reasonable?
That amused me. What cult leaders do you think I am under? Democrats? No, sorry I don't buy into that party platform. I would ask you the same thing.....are you so sucked into the MAGA cult that you can't even be slightly reasonable to understanding the rule of law under the constitution? You have claimed to be an independent. I'm not so sure I believe that. I stand up and speak for myself. I hate democrats, and I hate republicans. They are both concerned with their own power and wealth. And if you believe anything else you have succumbed to what they all want you to believe.

Peace out for now.
 

22AcaciaAve

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What is not right is your contention that they get free passes. There seems to be conflicting aspects of the Constitution with regard to the Federal Judiciary. One being the "impeachment clause" and the other is the "good behavior clause" which seems totally different and not simply a reiteration of the former and could include many aspects of their conduct beyond criminal acts.

Really? Inferior courts were not designed to have national authority, they were created to handle matters within their designated jurisdiction, period, Going beyond the jurisdictional limits would be something that could easily be viewed as not of "good behavior", same with failing to recuse oneself and many other violations of judicial rules and/or canons.

Lower courts were designed to make local rulings. But their rulings can have national implications. That's why there is a process. The constitution was designed to allow lower courts to make their judgements. Then you appeal. I don't know how anyone who understands the constitution and the legal process could possibly think anything else. Lower court rulings can be appealed, that is our system.
 

22AcaciaAve

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Seriously, some of you people need to take American Government classes. That really goes for both parties. Understand what the constitution allows and what the checks and balances in our government means and then come back and make statements. Otherwise you are just looking very foolish.
 

Ken King

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Lower courts were designed to make local rulings. But their rulings can have national implications. That's why there is a process. The constitution was designed to allow lower courts to make their judgements. Then you appeal. I don't know how anyone who understands the constitution and the legal process could possibly think anything else. Lower court rulings can be appealed, that is our system.
No one is arguing that an appeal process does not exist. What is being argued is that inferior courts are limited in scope and jurisdiction.

Their function is to interpret the law at issue within a specific case, amongst specific parties in their established jurisdiction.

Under the Constitution, federal courts exercise only “judicial” powers. This means that federal judges may interpret the law only through the resolution of actual legal disputes, referred to in Article III of the Constitution as “Cases or Controversies.” A court cannot attempt to correct a problem on its own initiative, or to answer a hypothetical legal question.

For a court to have national implication it would need to possess the power of "judicial review". Which, by the way, is not authorized anywhere within the Constitution, but has been "implied" to exist ever since Marbury v Madison where SCOTUS first struck down a law as unconstitutional and is only available to SCOTUS and not the many inferior courts. What is needed is for those inferior courts to stay in their lane.
 

vraiblonde

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are you so sucked into the MAGA cult

See, here's where you guys get it wrong. I am not MAGA; MAGA is me. I've been saying these things LONG before Trump ran for President. It's like he's been reading my posts on here for years and said, "You know what? That Vrai is onto something....let's run it up the flag pole....." That Kyle or that Grumpy or that Ken or that Bann or that (insert forumite here) is onto something..... There are myriad people just on this dinky little forum who were "MAGA" before Trump came along and made it a thing.

Trump's agenda is what Americans like me have been wanting for decades. None of it is new, except in the minds of Leftists who don't get out much and aren't allowed to hear about ideas outside the cult. The Dembots sneer and call Trump a "populist", like that's something bad. But let's look at what "populist" means:

a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.

:tap:

Novel concept, eh? Crazy Trump, representing We the People instead of the wealthy elite. What a Nazi that guy is, amirite?

No we don't have strong enough immigration laws on the books.

Sure we do. It's just you all are like teenagers who want to pick nits and argue every little point. Make up "what if" scenarios and get weirdly specific. "Well what if he's wearing a blue shirt? There's nothing in the Constitution that says illegal aliens with blue shirts should be deported!"

And then you go, "Oh, well, immigration laws aren't strong enough!" 🤪

Again, foreign nationals entering our country without going through the process should be eliminated.

Well, that's what Trump is doing so what's the problem?

Republicans have always claimed they will fix it, never did.

You're not going to get me to stick up for Republicans. I've been clear that I think they're a bunch of crooked cowards. But that's not on Trump. He's trying to do what We the People have wanted for decades and being obstructed primarily by Democrats but also the Republican crooks.
 

Hijinx

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To me this sudden surge of minor league Judges making National decisions shows how far into the destruction of America the democrats have gotten. Now we have Deep State Judges. A system of law and order that has been taken for granted in America has been transformed into a political cabal. No longer can Americans expect Judges to be fair and unbiased, and neutral in their rulings according to law.

The Judicial system right up to the Supreme Court is now as political as the Legislative Branch that no longer votes for what is right for America but what is right for the party line. Schumer let this cat out of the bag when he stated that the Judges they appointed were there to stop Donald Trump.

The Democrat party and the media they own is the greatest threat to America. Not only is their Deep State in every form of Government it also has roots in the Republican party. I need not mention who their agents are. We all know.
 
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22AcaciaAve

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And yet it's only Trump you want to bitch about. You didn't care about the rule of law when Biden's autopen was running rampant.

So really, stop. At least get honest with yourself.

Really? I bitched about Biden and his constant attempt to forgive student loans all of the time. He was shot down by the courts every time and he still tried to get around it. I cared about the rule of law then, and I care about it now. The best way to stop all of this sh*t is to take away the power of executive order. Trust me, you will hate that power the next time a democrat is in office. And I really concerned about that.

Sorry, I don't walk in lock step with the MAGA crowd. I agree with some things that Trump has done, others not so much. I laugh at stuff like renaming the Gulf of whatever. Who gives a crap?

I think we are closer to being on the same side then farther. I am a conservative, MAGA is more of a isolationist movement. I'm with some of it, but not all.

And BTW, I voted for Trump, as I have told you numerous times. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he does. Unlike the MAGA robots, I have a mind of my own and I have no problem speaking it.
 

vraiblonde

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And BTW, I voted for Trump

Why? So you can gripe about everything he's doing that he told us he was going to do?

I've already laid out my case and now I'd just be repeating myself, also I don't really like arguing. If you want a response, read my previous posts in this thread.
 

Kyle

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And BTW, I voted for Trump, as I have told you numerous times. Doesn't mean I agree with everything he does. Unlike the MAGA robots, I have a mind of my own and I have no problem speaking it.

I call BULL$HIT!

He’s doing everything he campaigned on.

Anyone that voted for him knows exactly what he was all about and are on board.

Flip back to one of your other fifty identities and go back to spitting your bullshit. No one‘s fooled.
 
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