We're voting on "legalizing" marijuana in FL

phreddyp

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So you didn't watch that video at all.

Don't lie and say you did because ALL of that is addressed in the video.
That is what I love about you blondie, you cannot understand when someone is elaborating on the subject, when it is something you post.
You are a delusional woman, but entertaining in a childish kind of way.
 

herb749

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We here in Abell know what this Sherriff says is true.
A few people got together with a greedy resident to make a few bucks growing marijuana.
The big guys found out and jumped right in on it. Now instead of a few residents making a buck growing marijuana in a small facility, they got bought off, and now we have a 50 thousand square foot STINKING, Noisy, property devaluating shthole here making big bucks for the big guys.

They even get off without paying big taxes by calling it an Agriculture business.
And the democrat politicians in Annapolis love it. They don't have to live next to it.
The guy that started it? He is living in Florida now. He doesn't have to smell it either.

Follow the money. Your Maryland State Government doesn't give a flying Phuck about you when it comes to money.
We here in Abell did get a nice paved Asphalt road right up to the Marijuana plant from it. Funny it stopped right at the driveway to the plant.


With MD it was the same with gambling. Once they could figure out how to get the most $$$ out of it, it was no longer a problem.
 

glhs837

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Of course the braindeads are all "Yes! We want drugs! Yay!" but I actually read the bill and did a little digging. The Polk County Sheriff summed it up nicely:



So I'm a "NO". :yay:


So what I'm hearing isn't that legal pot is bad, but that there's a crappy law written by lobbyists. Same with Maryland's automated enforcement law. Here in MD, they also spent about 600K lobbying for that law. Wonder how much they spent in FL. When a lobby gets to write the laws, its always a Bad Idea.
 

limblips

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Should employers should have the right to maintain a drug free work place policy. If so, how? What protections should be part of any legislation, if any?
Aside from higher product quality a robust drug testing program can lower insurance premiums for employers. Bro owned a very large company. His insurance company closely monitored his drug program and rewarded lowered positive tests. This could get messy.
 

vraiblonde

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So what I'm hearing isn't that legal pot is bad, but that there's a crappy law written by lobbyists.

Exactly that. :yay: And written by the people who will profit off of it.

If it passes - and I'm pretty sure it will - it's no skin off me. But it will not do what the dumbbells think it will do, and there will be a ton of unintended consequences. This is a classic case of voters in favor of what they're told it is, not what it really is.
 

Hijinx

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With MD it was the same with gambling. Once they could figure out how to get the most $$$ out of it, it was no longer a problem.
And they made damned sure that no Maryland resident was allowed to own a casino.
They sold out to MGM and others out of the State with big bucks.
 

glhs837

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Depends on what type of work I guess? Could be impaired? Lawsuit in the making.
That's what the Navy hung its program on. That there were longer term effects, cumulative ones that led to bad judgement. Don't know that that's ever been borne out for users of relatively normal amounts. Abusers, just like alcoholics, should show signs that can then be tested for. But the simple presence or not shouldn't be enough to drop a hammer. Nobody pulls random alcohol tests of employees.
 

Ramp Guy

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That's what the Navy hung its program on. That there were longer term effects, cumulative ones that led to bad judgement. Don't know that that's ever been borne out for users of relatively normal amounts. Abusers, just like alcoholics, should show signs that can then be tested for. But the simple presence or not shouldn't be enough to drop a hammer. Nobody pulls random alcohol tests of employees.
...Airline staff (where their jobs gives them access to the aircraft).

Granted I've been retired since Jan 1 2002, but staff that worked at the airport were subjected to random "pee-pee' test. In the 29 years I worked at the airport I was tested maybe 5-6 times on a random basics.
 

glhs837

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...Airline staff (where their jobs gives them access to the aircraft).

Granted I've been retired since Jan 1 2002, but staff that worked at the airport were subjected to random "pee-pee' test. In the 29 years I worked at the airport I was tested maybe 5-6 times on a random basics.
Been working in and around the military aviation side for 40 years now. Random drug testing, but never random alcohol testing. Do airline tests test for alcohol? Seems not worth it since even cough syrup could get you a false positive and at least for the military, results were months away from the testing.
 

Clem72

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If you are NOT showing up at work stoned, no one should care what you do in your off hours
As long as the employer is free to fire people who can't perform their job or causes impacts to the business. And by impacts I mean like if no one want's to eat at your restaurant because your meth head waiters mouth smells so bad people get nauseous every time he approaches the table.
 

Ramp Guy

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Been working in and around the military aviation side for 40 years now. Random drug testing, but never random alcohol testing. Do airline tests test for alcohol? Seems not worth it since even cough syrup could get you a false positive and at
...as I remember it, we were asked if we were taking any doctor prescribed medicines, and also when was the last time you consumed any drinks with alcohol in them. Couldn't say if they tested just for alcohol. (I'm guessing that once they got your urine it would be tested for the whole "enchilada"). It seems that the FAA may have mandated these tests.

(If memory serves me correct, back in 1972, minutes after my final interview I had to supply a urine test before I left the interview offices.)
 
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Hijinx

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...as I remember it, we were asked if we were taking any doctor prescribed medicines, and also when was the last time you consumed any drinks with alcohol in them. Couldn't say if they tested just for alcohol. (I'm guessing that once they got your urine it would be tested for the whole "enchilada"). It seems that the FAA may have mandated these tests.

(If memory serves me correct, back in 1972, minutes after my final interview I had to supply a urine test before I left the interview offices.)
I have to argue with what they test for. One would think that when you get a blood test they would take the PS test for cancer.

They don't.
 

Ramp Guy

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I have to argue with what they test for. One would think that when you get a blood test they would take the PS test for cancer.

They don't.
OK... I'm fine with your opinion. ( FYI, ..it wasn't a blood test you needed to pee in a cup.)

Can they use pee to test for your PS level for cancer? I have no idea.

They have been using a blood test and checking my CEA (Carcinoembryonic AG) for my cancer.
 
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