What a great way to treat our soldiers

[PsyOps]

It is disgusting how we treat soldiers who have been injured in Bush's war.

Bush's War? Perhaps you need to know who authorized this "Bush's" war:

Senators

Allard (R-CO), Allen (R-VA), Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN),Bennett (R-UT),Biden (D-DE), Bond (R-MO), Breaux (D-LA), Brownback (R-KS), Bunning (R-KY), Burns (R-MT), Campbell (R-CO), Cantwell (D-WA), Carnahan (D-MO), Carper (D-DE), Cleland (D-GA), Clinton (D-NY), Cochran (R-MS), Collins (R-ME), Craig (R-ID), Crapo (R-ID), Daschle (D-SD), DeWine (R-OH), Dodd (D-CT), Domenici (R-NM), Dorgan (D-ND), Edwards (D-NC), Ensign (R-NV), Enzi (R-WY), Feinstein (D-CA), Fitzgerald (R-IL), Frist (R-TN), Gramm (R-TX), Grassley (R-IA), Gregg (R-NH), Hagel (R-NE), Harkin (D-IA), Hatch (R-UT), Helms (R-NC), Hollings (D-SC), Hutchinson (R-AR), Hutchison (R-TX), Inhofe (R-OK), Johnson (D-SD), Kerry (D-MA), Kohl (D-WI), Kyl (R-AZ), Landrieu (D-LA), Lieberman (D-CT), Lincoln (D-AR), Lott (R-MS), Lugar (R-IN), McCain (R-AZ), McConnell (R-KY), Miller (D-GA), Murkowski (R-AK), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Nickles (R-OK), Reid (D-NV), Roberts (R-KS), Rockefeller (D-WV), Santorum (R-PA), Schumer (D-NY), Sessions (R-AL), Shelby (R-AL), Smith (R-NH), Smith (R-OR), Snowe (R-ME), Specter (R-PA), Stevens (R-AK), Thomas (R-WY), Thompson (R-TN), Thurmond (R-SC), Torricelli (D-NJ), Voinovich (R-OH), Warner (R-VA).

Representatives

Too large to post here but go here and HEY… WHOA… Look who voted for the war. Our friend Steny Hoyer. Bush's war my a$$.

Oh yeah... another thing... These are the people that hold the purse-strings to fund our government facilities like these. They are in charge of the money, not Bush.

 

[Azzy]

I am SO not surprised

 

[Lenny]

Instead of building another rehab center in southern maryland for the crackheads to flock to Charles County, lets build a wounded veterans facility, or fix the veterans hospital in Charlotte Hall. Have you ever been in there? that place is depressing!

I believe the facility in Charlotte Hall is a Veterans' Home, not Hospital. That may be why they frequently call an ambulance to take their tenants to local hospitals when they get ill or injured.

 

[itsbob]

Don't expect much to change if Bush's plans for budget cuts continue..

Unkind cuts
Bush Plans VA Funding Cuts in '09

Critics say White House may have made up numbers to keep budget promise.
By ANDREW TAYLOR
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration's budget assumes cuts to funding for veterans' health care two years from now - even as badly wounded troops returning from Iraq could overwhelm the system.

One, the VA has nothing to do with Walter Reed Army Hospital or Bethesda Navy Hospital..

Two, if the islamocrats get there way there won't be enough money to fund ANY of the hospitals, so which is worse. Bush cutting some of the VA money, or the Islamocrats cutting ALL of the money.. hard to believe you didn't post a "what if" for Pelosi's plan..

 

[vraiblonde]

I think Bush should be impeached if he's even *thinking* about cutting VA funding while sending billion$ to some foreign country to help with their self-inflicted AIDS crisis. That's bull####.

 

[chernmax]

The sad thing is also that these soldiers are coming back with Post dramatic stress syndrome and they are unable to receive the benefits such as disability pay which they are entitled to. A friend of mine risked his life in Iraq for Bush and now is all screwed up and cannot get the medical/psychlogical help that he needs.

There has to be a better answer to this problem.

WHAT??? <img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/chernmax/Avatars/duffy5plongeoir.gif">

 

[aps45819]

You're not serious, are you?

Yes

 

[PsyOps]

I think Bush should be impeached if he's even *thinking* about cutting VA funding while sending billion$ to some foreign country to help with their self-inflicted AIDS crisis. That's bull####.

Not that I disagree with the basis of your point but...

Bush requests it, Congress either agrees with it or not. The president cannot spend money anywhere without the consent of Congress.

 

[Dupontster]

Just got red for flying off the handle...Only took the dumb ass 2 days to read my post and reply.... I am so sorry if I flew off the handle. I get like that sometimes..

 

[forestal]

Doesn't really sound like the Democrats are responsible for the condition of Walter Reed.

Shame

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We've just received a copy of a letter sent by the general running Walter Reed to the entire staf. He needs to be fired, now.

To the Staff of WRAMC from MG Weightman
This letter is to address the issues that were raised in the Washington Post articles this weekend concerning the treatment of patients at WRAMC, specifically their outpatient care and administration. First and foremost, I want to assure all of the staff that I do not believe that there is the "other" Walter Reed. I firmly believe that we deliver the same level of world class healthcare to all of our patients and their families, regardless of whether they are inpatients or outpatients. I see that same level of competence and compassion regardless of what clinic or ward that I visit. I see you taking the same pride and honor in caring for our Nation's sons and daughters day in and day out. We have treated over 6000 OIF/OEF patients at WRAMC since 2002 and the vast majority of them are delighted with our care. We get a lot of visitors daily at WRAMC and they have numerous interactions with our patients and families. They have many opportunities to express both their satisfaction and dissatisfaction, and therefore I feel confident that we, as a staff, have both accurate and frequent feedback from our patients which is overwhelmingly positive. Because of this, I do not believe it is accurate to portray our outpatient population as being "invisible" to the public.​

I was in Walter Reed for more then two months.. nothing similar to the conditions mentioned here (granted it was ten years ago). For one thing I'm sure they are trying to find rooms, which means doing what you have to do to include using buildings and rooms that my have been abandoned years ago for nicer places. Military hospitals have always been known, even in peace time, for patieints taking care of themselves, and each other. No one makes up your bed, I made mine the following day after surgery. If one of my ward mates couldn't get out of bed and needed a dring someone would get him one. It's part of being in the brotherhood, from boot camp to grave, you take care of each other.

DO I want to live in conditions like that? No, but with the islamocrats threatening to cut off funding for this war do you think it's going to get better of worse.. thank you, everyone, that voted for one.

I will have to say one thing that pisses me off, I bet everyone of the soldiers, sailors, airman and mentally unstable living in these conditions are enlisted. I think they should go back and find the wounded Lt's and Cpt's, you know, the ones with all of three or four years in service, see how they are getting treated compared to the Chiefs, the SSG's and SFC's that have put in 15 - 25 years.. THAT pisses me off!

 

[forestal]

that's right, keep blaming everything on the Dems, even though we know who's been running the show the past six years....

One, the VA has nothing to do with Walter Reed Army Hospital or Bethesda Navy Hospital..

Two, if the islamocrats get there way there won't be enough money to fund ANY of the hospitals, so which is worse. Bush cutting some of the VA money, or the Islamocrats cutting ALL of the money.. hard to believe you didn't post a "what if" for Pelosi's plan..

 

[MMDad]

Doesn't really sound like the Democrats are responsible for the condition of Walter Reed.

Did you spend today at Walter Reed helping the people that you think need your help? Of course not. Why? Because you don't actually care about the soldiers. You are the ultimate hypocrite.

If you actually cared as much as you pretend to, you would be there giving us first hand accounts. But you are unwilling to actually do anything to help.

You are a sad, pathetic, miserable excuse for a human being.

 

[chernmax]

that's right, keep blaming everything on the Dems, even though we know who's been running the show the past six years....

 

[PsyOps]

Doesn't really sound like the Democrats are responsible for the condition of Walter Reed.

Of course not. For you it's always been your first inclination to blame Bush. I have spent considerable time at Walter Reed over the past 2 years and, despite the aging of the facilities, I found no declining of services or abilities to treat patients. It is your purpose to find any inkling negativity to ride your train of blame against Bush.

 

[itsbob]

Of course not. For you it's always been your first inclination to blame Bush. I have spent considerable time at Walter Reed over the past 2 years and, despite the aging of the facilities, I found no declining of services or abilities to treat patients. It is your purpose to find any inkling negativity to ride your train of blame against Bush.

Since Forestal is talking about the hospital, what kind of shape is the HOSPITAL in?

I can somewhat understand what they are doing and why. You have an overabundance of patients. Those that are wounded in need of 24 hour care, and those that have been healed and in need of follow on care. Oh, and the daily onslaught of retirees and their families seeking medical care. You have to place them where you normally wouldn't, and if you HAD to place a person in a not so sterile environment, which would you place there. The ones straight from the front with open wounds in need of surgery or the ones that are healed and only there for a day or two awaiting an appointment?

I guess WRAMC's other option would have been, sorry, there is no room at the inn, you'll have to find someplace else to seek care.. of course I don't see the Hilton in DC offering free rooms to the veterans either.

Those that are in charge are left with making decision they don't want to make, but they have no choice. Which decision would you rather have him make? We have a place for you that's not to standard, but we can take care of you, or sorry, you'r SOL, go someplace else?

Make no mistake, the hospital itself is state of the art, and is capable of extraordinary care for those that need it most, but to care for those that need it most, and give 100% to those in the most need, some that don't need that level of care need to make sacrifices. That's what soldiers do, day in and day out.

 

[itsbob]

Doesn't really sound like the Democrats are responsible for the condition of Walter Reed.

So here;s a general rallying his troops, patting them on a their backs for a job well done, far and above what would normally be expected of them, and you think he should be fired??

You really shouldn't base your opinions on ignorance, but you really are turning it into an art form!

 

[vraiblonde]

Bush requests it, Congress either agrees with it or not. The president cannot spend money anywhere without the consent of Congress.

Doesn't matter. Bush shouldn't even request it. So I'm not going to blame Congress for this one because they don't start the process - they just authorize or deny.

 

[vraiblonde]

I find it interesting that the only time Democrats care about the care and feeding of our military men and women is when something isn't perfect and they can blame the Republicans. Otherwise, they could give a crap and they frankly admit it every time they want to cut defense spending.

It's pretty easy to find one or two people in any given situation that are willing to gripe and complain for the press. So unless there's a Congressional investigation (which there won't be because I suspect things are just fine), then I'm not interested in the opinions of the Leftist WashPost or some retarded blogger.

 

[PsyOps]

Since Forestal is talking about the hospital, what kind of shape is the HOSPITAL in?

I can somewhat understand what they are doing and why. You have an overabundance of patients. Those that are wounded in need of 24 hour care, and those that have been healed and in need of follow on care. Oh, and the daily onslaught of retirees and their families seeking medical care. You have to place them where you normally wouldn't, and if you HAD to place a person in a not so sterile environment, which would you place there. The ones straight from the front with open wounds in need of surgery or the ones that are healed and only there for a day or two awaiting an appointment?

I guess WRAMC's other option would have been, sorry, there is no room at the inn, you'll have to find someplace else to seek care.. of course I don't see the Hilton in DC offering free rooms to the veterans either.

Those that are in charge are left with making decision they don't want to make, but they have no choice. Which decision would you rather have him make? We have a place for you that's not to standard, but we can take care of you, or sorry, you'r SOL, go someplace else?

Make no mistake, the hospital itself is state of the art, and is capable of extraordinary care for those that need it most, but to care for those that need it most, and give 100% to those in the most need, some that don't need that level of care need to make sacrifices. That's what soldiers do, day in and day out.

My wife had to stay there for about a week after some pretty serious medical problems. I was active duty at the time and not deployed. Her room, in ICU, looked a little scratchy (paint pealing and such), but it was very clean. We have had to visit there multiple times over the past 2 years for checkups and related appointments, which means we went to various parts of the hospital. The hospital, in general, was no different than any other hospital I had been to. And I have been to a few (Doctor’s Hospital, Washington Hospital Center, Holy Cross, Malcolm Grow) because of my own and my dad’s health issues. We never had any problems getting appointments; the doctors and surgeons were the best. The nurses were the most professional and caring I can imagine. They have state-of-the-art equipment. Even with the large flow of wounded, they always treated my wife (and me) as first-class. There was not one moment she didn’t get the absolute best care. And she is a dependent. So you can imagine how they treated our war heroes.

I have had many opportunities to talk to some of them and they never seemed unhappy about their treatment, NOT ONE OF THEM! Many of them, despite their injuries, desire to go back and fight.

The impression I got about this article is the same impression I get about Forestal… They will exploit any fragment of bad news, no matter how overwhelming the good news may be, to further their agenda to demoralize this war. This has nothing to do with the condition of the hospital or the treatment of our troops. They care very little about that; but care a lot about their political agenda.

 

[PsyOps]

Doesn't matter. Bush shouldn't even request it. So I'm not going to blame Congress for this one because they don't start the process - they just authorize or deny.

Actually that is partly true and not. The president proposes a budget, and Congress proposes their own budget. Then they deliberate and try to come to a comprimise. This is not a one-man show.

Money for the war is different and doesn't come from this same budgeted pot of money.