What am I missing about this???

[kwillia]

My throat is scratchy....

:coughcough:

 

[Ken King]

China was aware of the disease in Dec 2019 (if not earlier) and they loss containment. Why did they keep it secret for so long when early help might have got a better handle on it.

 

[Grumpy]

One of the things I don’t understand about a lot of the people who post here, they seem to really distrust the media,

Do you trust the media? FOX? MSNBC? CNN? CBS? NBC? Who do you trust? Honestly I don't trust any of them, its all about dollars and it sucks.

 

[truby20]

You totally missed my point. I didnt say nor to worry or to act as if there isn't a chance of it spreading. I said panicking is futile and we are each responsible for taking precautions and preparations.

I’m not panicking, but I can be concerned about how the next several weeks pan out. There is a spectrum of reaction and I just don’t get the position of completely dismissing this as a made up story to take out Trump.

 

[truby20]

Do you trust the media? FOX? MSNBC? CNN? CBS? NBC? Who do you trust? Honestly I don't trust any of them, its all about dollars and it sucks.

Yes, I trust the media.

not blindly, their reporting did take us into a never ending war with Iraq

 

[Lurk]

China was aware of the disease in Dec 2019 (if not earlier) and they loss containment. Why did they keep it secret for so long when early help might have got a better handle on it.

At that point the proposals and counterproposals between the US and China in crafting a Trade Agreement made exposure of an infection such as this too much to deal with? Just a thought.

 

[truby20]

That's an interesting observation. Thank you.

But I wonder..., is it possible that in two of the cases (i.e., China and Iran) the lack of media coverage has made the problem worse. Could it be that China's notoriously censored press (so that the Chinese Communist Party never looks bad) allowed the coronavirus to get out of the country and into Japan, South Korea, Iran, etc. because it was not reported; so these other nations were not prepared for what was already "in-country"? Is it possible that a similar dynamic took place in Iran causing the problems we are now seeing there?

Of course, what is under-reported in authoritarian countries gets "over-reported" in the Western press (thus giving us the impression that the Black Death has returned).

I remain convinced that this virus will burn out at some point over the next few months with a death rate no greater than other flu "epidemics." The objection to this view is that COVID-19 appears to have a death rate closer to SARS than to the common flu. That wouldn't be good in one respect (i.e., more initial deaths), but it may turn out to be good in the long run (i.e., its virulence causes it to burn out relatively quickly).

And there's good news regarding one of the virus' supposed super powers: re-infection. It may be that folks show as being re-infected after testing negative is a result of the tests being used and/or a longer time period required for the body to dump the virus load.

I admit to being concerned because I am in several of the high risk categories. Having said that, while I may be concerned for me I'm far less concerned for the general population.

Who knows? We'll see. Best defense: wash hands.

--- End of line (MCP)

It’s estimated 60% of Americans fall into a high risk category (elderly, obese, diabetic, smoker).

it will be interesting to see the rate of spread here since we’re an incredibly hygienic society, and most of us have gotten a heads up about increased hand washing, not touching your face, etc

 

[Grumpy]

Yes, I trust the media.

We'll just have to disagree, I've seen total BS on both sides, more so on the left leaning media.

 

[GWguy]

 

[littlelady]

I’m not panicking, but I can be concerned about how the next several weeks pan out. There is a spectrum of reaction and I just don’t get the position of completely dismissing this as a made up story to take out Trump.

Your post caught my eye. We are not panicking, either, but went to HT in Olney today to get bottled water because we drink it so much; hub being an ultra runner, and I try to follow his lead. The shelves were bare. I don’t know what to think. Is the virus a true threat, or is it all political? Time will tell, and we will find out. Stay well.

 

[truby20]

Your post caught my eye. We are not panicking, either, but went to HT in Olney today to get bottled water because we drink it so much; hub being an ultra runner, and I try to follow his lead. The shelves were bare. I don’t know what to think. Is the virus a true threat, or is it all political? Time will tell, and we will find out. Stay well.

Water supplies and electricity should be fine no matter what happens.

I loaded up on shelf stable proteins, grains, beans, just enough things that I wouldn’t have to go shopping for a few weeks if it came to that.

 

[GURPS]

Could it be that China's notoriously censored press .... allowed the coronavirus to get out of the country ....

HUH ? The Press


The problem as I see it Corvo-19 has a really long lead time where you show NO symptoms and you are like Typhoid Mary spreading that crap everywhere .... so we end up with the 1st US Death being in Washington State ..... WTF I didn't know ANYONE was sick in WA

 

[GURPS]

Water supplies and electricity should be fine no matter what happens.

True, but buying a few cases of bottled water or jugs and filling your own does not cost that much ...... I keep a case of water in each vehicle as well

 

[kwillia]

I’m not panicking, but I can be concerned about how the next several weeks pan out. There is a spectrum of reaction and I just don’t get the position of completely dismissing this as a made up story to take out Trump.

I dont see it being dismissed. What I see is a constant bombardment of stressors over something of which we cannot control. We can and should plan ahead... I too now have more food in the house (and ketchup) for my family and pets than I normally would. I have meds on hand just in case. I wash my hands, use sanitizer, wipe down carts, etc. This is the only control I have and it may have a little affect. But the reality is I still have to go to the stores, transfer station, accountant, bank, work, etc. which means I have zero chance of avoiding exposure.

And if I get sick, what the government did or didn't do had little effect on my catching it. It is being spread by people who dont know they are sick or those who are sick and have to go out to the stores, the banks, post offices, etc.

I said it before... the die have been cast. We cannot avoid any of what is to come because we still have to go about or normal life and do our normal things.

I am not discrediting your concern one bit. I'm just stating stressing over something you cannot control weakens your immune system. Nothing in the news changes our outcome. So us fretting over a constant bombardment is detrimental not helpful.

 

[truby20]

I dont see it being dismissed. What I see is a constant bombardment of stressors over something of which we cannot control. We can and should plan ahead... I too now have more food in the house (and ketchup) for my family and pets than I normally would. I have meds on hand just in case. I wash my hands, use sanitizer, wipe down carts, etc. This is the only control I have and it may have a little affect. But the reality is I still have to go to the stores, transfer station, accountant, bank, work, etc. which means I have zero chance of avoiding exposure.

And if I get sick, what the government did or didn't do had little effect on my catching it. It is being spread by people who dont know they are sick or those who are sick and have to go out to the stores, the banks, post offices, etc.

I said it before... the die have been cast. We cannot avoid any of what is to come because we still have to go about or normal life and do our normal things.

I am not discrediting your concern one bit. I'm just stating stressing over something you cannot control weakens your immune system. Nothing in the news changes our outcome. So us fretting over a constant bombardment is detrimental not helpful.

Sounds like we have both prepared in similar ways.

Panicking is useless and fortunately for myself I don’t fall into any of the high risk categories.

it’s just the unknown that is frustrating, kinda like the months after 9/11, there is a base level of anxiety that now everyone has and only time will ease it.

 

[kwillia]

St. Mary's health department notice just popped up on my Facebook. The main takeaway... 80% who catch it have mild cases. It said call the hospital before going as most will be told to stay home.

 

[truby20]

Ok, guess we have no reason to worry then, there will always be a new truck on the way.

Due to supply chain disruption, some stores may run out of products by mid-April:

U.S. could see some empty shelves by mid-April if coronavirus epidemic worsens

Production bottlenecks could cause some bare shelves at brick-and-mortar retailers within 60 to 90 days, retail analysts warn.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[truby20]

I found this video very helpful in describing how respiratory distress (pneumonia) causes damage to the body



After watching it I’ve ordered a pulse oximeter off Amazon, fairly inexpensive and seems as useful as having a thermometer.

 

[kwillia]

Due to supply chain disruption, some stores may run out of products by mid-April:

U.S. could see some empty shelves by mid-April if coronavirus epidemic worsens

Production bottlenecks could cause some bare shelves at brick-and-mortar retailers within 60 to 90 days, retail analysts warn.

www.nbcnews.com

Our trucks will keep coming. We may not be able to get some things made overseas, but we will still have access to most of what we truly need. The trucks will still be coming.

 

[GregV814]

105 are now in intensive care in Italy, that is about 10% of total infected. No health care system in the world has enough beds to sustain this type of care

We'll just have to disagree, I've seen total BS on both sides, more so on the left leaning media.

always remember William Randolph Hearst told the government while he was building his empire, “you give me the pictures, I’ll give you a war”