What is it about the gays?..

[GURPS]

That reminds me of the former porn star running for office in Florida.

A Star Is Porn: Whatever Became Of Italy’s Cicciolina?

 

[Amused_despair]

The rules of hospitality and the treatment of guests have been around for a long time. The provisions of punishment laid out in the Bible are not any I would wish my society to follow. The argument on the table is that only God has the right to take life because he grants it. If you agree than you can not argue for capital punishment, if you argue for capital punishment than you argue for sanctioned killing when needs allow, whether God wills it or not, for no one knows what the will of God is.

 

[Zguy28]

If this is how you feel then how do you feel about Capital Punishment? Is it proper to take another life through execution by order of the state in answer to crimes committed against society?

Romans 13:1-7
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

The rules of hospitality and the treatment of guests have been around for a long time. The provisions of punishment laid out in the Bible are not any I would wish my society to follow. The argument on the table is that only God has the right to take life because he grants it. If you agree than you can not argue for capital punishment, if you argue for capital punishment than you argue for sanctioned killing when needs allow, whether God wills it or not, for no one knows what the will of God is.

You make a mighty assumption when you declare "no one knows what the will of God is." I disagree, as does Christianity and Jesus. God's will is known through Scripture. It is a revelation of God's will.

 

[Amused_despair]

Romans 13:1-7
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Isn't this passage an indictment against those who protest the government's actions such as the Cliven Bundy ranch? It does not seem to support even the American Revolution since that was resisting the established authority.

 

[Zguy28]

Isn't this passage an indictment against those who protest the government's actions such as the Cliven Bundy ranch?

Yes, it does. Do you assume (it's becoming a habit for you) that because a person is a Christian, and expresses conservative views toward social issues, that they are monolithic? I can't stand Bundy or what he stands for. He's a law breaker and doesn't pay his debts.

The wicked borrows but does not pay back, but the righteous is generous and gives Psalm 37:21

It does not seem to support even the American Revolution since that was resisting the established authority.

That is something that is debatable I suppose. I've often thought about it. A strict translation of the Scripture would seem to make it a wrong action for a Christian. However, the Founders were very heavily influenced by the "Enlightenment" ideas of their time. http://www.articlemyriad.com/influence-enlightenment-formation-united-states/