What the hell is going on in LaPlata??
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Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Snopes is very liberal biased and has had to print political retractions regarding their liberal views.Because snopes is a bastion of conservative thinking. It's GOT to be true.
Was talking about this issue with some local friends and a good point was mentioned. Go back a couple weeks ago when this issue first developed. We had a person (military background) who came to school obviously aggrevated over an issue and made threats against the school. Those threats included "raising hell" and threatening to stick the homework assignment (I believe) up the VP's ass. Really, the actual threat doesn't mean much for this point. However, he was acting in an aggressive nature to administration and intent on creating a scene.
Now, we ALL know how this situation has played out as we have the benifit of time and hindsight. But, had this situation taken a different turn, which, in this day and age, has unfortunately happend. And this individual came back to this school frustrated with the administrations differing view (to his) and shot the place up ........... what would everyone be saying about the school not taking his threats seriously and enacting their rights to bar this person from the property?
There would be people calling for the resignation of any person involved in this incident. There would be media bolding the point that this person had already made threats and was confrontational. People would be calling the administrators "idiots" for not taking action (even if some thought it was overkill) in the interest of protecting the kids.
I, for one, don't agree with his issue thought I support his right to an opinion (he earned it). I also don't agree with his presentation of his issue and find it inappropriate, disrespectful and not self-serving at all. I do agree with the schools action in terms of barring him from the school, because at the end of the day, I rather them be overly cautious as opposed to doing nothing. I rather someone's feelings get hurt then something far worse.
Now, we ALL know how this situation has played out as we have the benifit of time and hindsight. But, had this situation taken a different turn, which, in this day and age, has unfortunately happend. And this individual came back to this school frustrated with the administrations differing view (to his) and shot the place up ........... what would everyone be saying about the school not taking his threats seriously and enacting their rights to bar this person from the property?
There would be people calling for the resignation of any person involved in this incident. There would be media bolding the point that this person had already made threats and was confrontational. People would be calling the administrators "idiots" for not taking action (even if some thought it was overkill) in the interest of protecting the kids.
I, for one, don't agree with his issue thought I support his right to an opinion (he earned it). I also don't agree with his presentation of his issue and find it inappropriate, disrespectful and not self-serving at all. I do agree with the schools action in terms of barring him from the school, because at the end of the day, I rather them be overly cautious as opposed to doing nothing. I rather someone's feelings get hurt then something far worse.
Sorry no , this really is what scares me about people like you who are truly ignorant of things and throw out little facts like they are world wide beliefs .I asked before if we can't teach about this , then how do we teach about WWII about how and what Nazi German did without talking about the Jewish faith ?Then to throw even more ignorant comments you say "common core" in schools should be called "communist core" ,that has not an effing thing to do with this and truly shows your moronic ignorance .
awpitt
Main Streeter
If you read the various articles, you'll find out.
Does it REALLY matter? Do you really believe even if it was one vs. the other that such a response is proper between a parent (Marine at that) and an administrator? To me, it's all semantics and I have more issue with the approach than anything.
PJay
Well-Known Member
Post # 96. Since you being all about facts I would think it would matter. Post # 96 you also claim he made no personal threats. Make up my mind, please.
Personally, he was calm to how I would have handled it..
What am I trying to help you with? I said he didn't make personal threats. That what I was told and will stand by that as I haven't heard/read otherwise. Then again, even if he offered to stick said peice of paper up said administrator's @ss, I still wouldn't consider that a real (intentioned) threat but more a figure of speach. But, iIf his intent was to cause a disruption to the school, he was considered a threat and they acted properly.
And I am sure you would've given them a peice of your mind like no other. And you're entitled to. Please be clear, I don't "like" them teaching much of anything to do with the Muslim faith/history, etc - but, I am also not foolish enough to go in there "raising hell" and thinking that is my best course of action to accomplish something.
PJay
Well-Known Member
I need some Ibuprofen my head is starting to hurt. Seriously, is why I usually stay out of stuff except to drop my opinion. Post #123 you then changed your mind that he indeed made a threat to stuff paper where the sun is absent.
Well, we agree on not teaching the Muslim faith/ history, etc. and so will leave it there.
Let me break this down for you .......... slowly if I must:
1. I wasn't there so any assumption about what was specifically said is not known. As I said before, I've taken from what I've read and what I've personally heard from a person "involved" in a broad sense (wasn't in the room, didn't interact with the person, didn't attend a meeting with this person, etc.)
2. The guy didn't issue a threat in terms of "I am going to kick your ass" or "I am going to shoot up this place if you don't XYZ."
3. The guy did tell the VP she could take her peice of paper and stick it up her ass.
4. The guy did say he was going to "raise hell" and bring a "#### storm down" on them.
5. I don't really consider #3 to be a valid/real threat with any intent. I believe it to be more of a figure of speech. Did the school follow in my interpretation? Don't know. I wouldn't take issue with them considering it a threat given the penalty if they were wrong.
6. I don't really consider #4 a meaningful threat either (again, I think it's more a figure of speech) but I do believe the school did and would fully support their interpretation as such. It is a threat - any way you slice it and they were within their rights to act upon it.
And let me clarify a point before we are snuggling in a corner somewhere ....... I don't like that they teach Muslim anything. But I support them doing so if in context and in accordance with the State guidelines. There are no rights violations going on here and just because you don't like the content doesn't exclude you from being exposed to the history and gaining some education if its in the ciriculum. Especially if that causes a disruption for everyone else.
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1. I wasn't there so any assumption about what was specifically said is not known. As I said before, I've taken from what I've read and what I've personally heard from a person "involved" in a broad sense (wasn't in the room, didn't interact with the person, didn't attend a meeting with this person, etc.)
2. The guy didn't issue a threat in terms of "I am going to kick your ass" or "I am going to shoot up this place if you don't XYZ."
3. The guy did tell the VP she could take her peice of paper and stick it up her ass.
4. The guy did say he was going to "raise hell" and bring a "#### storm down" on them.
5. I don't really consider #3 to be a valid/real threat with any intent. I believe it to be more of a figure of speech. Did the school follow in my interpretation? Don't know. I wouldn't take issue with them considering it a threat given the penalty if they were wrong.
6. I don't really consider #4 a meaningful threat either (again, I think it's more a figure of speech) but I do believe the school did and would fully support their interpretation as such. It is a threat - any way you slice it and they were within their rights to act upon it.
And let me clarify a point before we are snuggling in a corner somewhere ....... I don't like that they teach Muslim anything. But I support them doing so if in context and in accordance with the State guidelines. There are no rights violations going on here and just because you don't like the content doesn't exclude you from being exposed to the history and gaining some education if its in the ciriculum. Especially if that causes a disruption for everyone else.
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CleanTheSlateInSMC
Infidel
I agree with you. Thanks for expressing so clearly what I was thinking. There are those who get just as offended when schools teach evolution.
Not pissy but I also didn't think I was sitting on a stand under trial with someone going back to 'record' in an attempt to point out an inconsistancy in my statement. Defensive perhaps. And if insulting, I apologize. Maybe a touch intentional at the time but I am over it now.
Agree 100%. I don't like it but, regardless your personal beliefs/thoughts, I think everyone should be educated on it. It's up to the individual to form their own opinions and beliefs based on that exposure. I hinted at it in an earlier post, but I was exposed to a very shocking education in my own religion that I never was provided when shielded in "private school" or "church on Sundays". It wasn't damaging but certainly educated me and opened my eyes and I took that knowledge and incorporated it into my own set of beliefs. Education is good, period, even if the subject matter isn't to your liking.
BOP
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Great comment: Exactly. The ironic part is, if Islam took over, the first people they would kill would be homosexuals, atheists, and blasphemers, basically the entire leftist starting team.
PJay
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...n-From-Class-Because-School-Is-Teaching-Islam
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