What's it gonna be...
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Hessian
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The Mind of God ..who can fathom?
The laws of God and his dealing with man through his prophets...that has been available for 3200 years.
Only now are we bold enough to say: God doesn't tell us what we should do so we'll make it up as we go along.
Progress in Health care: obviously...but that brings us back to a moral question: when should we kill the infirm? kill the fetus? Harvest organs to save people that are wealthy/more significant?
These same questions have been asked for millenia.
If we look at the Golden age of Greece..we see a people not far from ourselves ..."enlightened, cultured, sexually lenient,.."
Have other societies done away with slavery in other times: certainly. We have also societies who practiced bigamy, polyandry, and other marriage relationships...Are we snooty enough to say we have evolved past all that to a new sophisiticated morality? heck NO....we just recycle it with a new name.
regarding congress (which I have not addressed) I DO wish the federal govt would stay farther out of our lives (Jeffersonian Democrat)...yet I fear that the common man is easily led astray by hero worship and attempts at bribery (welfare..)-Hamiltonian Federalist.
So...since we are all afraid of "Legislating Morality" we a clearly doomed to continue the culural slide of decline until the public decides to restore our former glory and dignity.
The laws of God and his dealing with man through his prophets...that has been available for 3200 years.
Only now are we bold enough to say: God doesn't tell us what we should do so we'll make it up as we go along.
Progress in Health care: obviously...but that brings us back to a moral question: when should we kill the infirm? kill the fetus? Harvest organs to save people that are wealthy/more significant?
These same questions have been asked for millenia.
If we look at the Golden age of Greece..we see a people not far from ourselves ..."enlightened, cultured, sexually lenient,.."
Have other societies done away with slavery in other times: certainly. We have also societies who practiced bigamy, polyandry, and other marriage relationships...Are we snooty enough to say we have evolved past all that to a new sophisiticated morality? heck NO....we just recycle it with a new name.
regarding congress (which I have not addressed) I DO wish the federal govt would stay farther out of our lives (Jeffersonian Democrat)...yet I fear that the common man is easily led astray by hero worship and attempts at bribery (welfare..)-Hamiltonian Federalist.
So...since we are all afraid of "Legislating Morality" we a clearly doomed to continue the culural slide of decline until the public decides to restore our former glory and dignity.
SuperGrover
jack of all trades
mmm, i'm sure you know for a fact that the prohets truely spoke to god or god revealed his/her intentions..... 'cause it is written in the bible!
i've got a book for you to read, it's the Koran, Book of Mormon, Hindu scriptures, etc....
That's the EXACT message al Qaeda and the rest of those extremist Islamic nutballs are putting out.
Hessian
Well-Known Member
Vrai...you know there is a difference.
(should we take this over to the Religion forum instead of hijacking a thread?)
To be brief:
Look at the products of the Reformation...(on the positive please)
Look at the inspiration of our scientists (yes Newton was a devout believer...look at GW Carver...giving all his credit to God)
Look at the founding statesmen (Apart from the laws of Christ we shall all fail...)
Even the deist Jefferson insisted on Scipture being one of the two textbooks in the DC public schools.
Look at the institutions born from perserverance by the Pilgrims (codifying their civil laws upon scripture) Even Jamestown was yanked from lethargy & greed by ministers or John Smith quoting "If you don't work, you won't eat."
Christianity and Capitalism are inherently linked: the best of religion and economics.
Yet Christianity tempers the worst parts of capitalism...we are not owners of the earth but caretakers...philanthropy...preservation of the finest art & music all created to bring Glory to God.
Surely we can see the despair, enslavement, brutality that modern Islam has brought to millions...Christianity liberates and does not ask for martyrs to murder...rather martyrs for refusing to yield or kneel to a tyrant.
(should we take this over to the Religion forum instead of hijacking a thread?)
To be brief:
Look at the products of the Reformation...(on the positive please)
Look at the inspiration of our scientists (yes Newton was a devout believer...look at GW Carver...giving all his credit to God)
Look at the founding statesmen (Apart from the laws of Christ we shall all fail...)
Even the deist Jefferson insisted on Scipture being one of the two textbooks in the DC public schools.
Look at the institutions born from perserverance by the Pilgrims (codifying their civil laws upon scripture) Even Jamestown was yanked from lethargy & greed by ministers or John Smith quoting "If you don't work, you won't eat."
Christianity and Capitalism are inherently linked: the best of religion and economics.
Yet Christianity tempers the worst parts of capitalism...we are not owners of the earth but caretakers...philanthropy...preservation of the finest art & music all created to bring Glory to God.
Surely we can see the despair, enslavement, brutality that modern Islam has brought to millions...Christianity liberates and does not ask for martyrs to murder...rather martyrs for refusing to yield or kneel to a tyrant.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Originally posted by vraiblonde
Yes. We're in better health and we have much better technology and communication than we did in the stone age. So it's pretty obvious we've progressed as a society, not declined.
Yes. We no longer enslave people, women are no longer considered property and we don't marry our 12 year old daughters off to 50 year old widowers.
First of all, it is the ultimate arrogance to pretend to know the mind of God. Second, there's this little thing called a First Amendment in our Constitution and it says that Congress CANNOT make laws establishing religion. By denying citizens the right to marry because "God says so", Congress is obviously establishing a national religion and, therefore, any amendment of such would be unconstitutional.
I can't believe we're talking about this again.
This was the point I was trying to bring up last night before I hit the hay. TY Vrai.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Hessian, the time in which you speak of (the colonial to revolutionary period) was a time when many immigrants came to the newfound lands of America to start a new life but moreso to practice the religion they wanted. I see the institution of religion as a tool of hope and nothing more. People need hope or else they will forfeit the will to live. What purpose will they have to live for if they lose hope that there is someone or something watching over them or something after death. Being that these ancestors of ours had little knowledge of what we know now they therefore cannot base their own opinion as much as we could today.
I like religion because it gives people a bit of hope that there is something after death. However, I dont like religion because it almost always tends to go too far.
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Tard Hunter
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We'll have to notch this one's ear to mark him for the 'catch, neuter, release' team that will be sweeping through later. It would only be cruel to the offspring to allow him to reproduce.
Originally posted by BuddyLee
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We'll have to notch this one's ear to mark him for the 'catch, neuter, release' team that will be sweeping through later. It would only be cruel to the offspring to allow him to reproduce.
Positive. Liberals don't really want gay marriage because that takes away one more thing for them to b*tch about. Just like they don't want to admit that women and minorities are officially equal in the eyes of the law and society.
I'm not a slave-master and I don't race- or gender-bait. That's how you can tell I'm not a Liberal.
GOP4me
New Member
I wouldn't crow too loudly, he might hear you and come running with the tin snips. Most dictionaries list your spelling as a variant at best, and MS Word will red line it every time. After all, it's Terminator 2: Judgment Day, not Judgement Day. Look it up, then quietly make your escape.
BuddyLee
Football addict
I see.
I did use MS Word and it came out correct every time I tried.According to the dictionary it is correct as well..:shrug:
1. judg·ment also judge·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jjmnt)
n.
2. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation.
3. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances.
The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating: His judgment of fine music is impeccable.
The capacity to assess situations or circumstances and draw sound conclusions; good sense: She showed good judgment in saving her money. See Synonyms at reason.
An opinion or estimate formed after consideration or deliberation, especially a formal or authoritative decision: awaited the judgment of the umpire.
Law.
4. A determination of a court of law; a judicial decision. A court act creating or affirming an obligation, such as a debt.
5. A writ in witness of such an act.
6. An assertion of something believed.
A misfortune believed to be sent by God as punishment for sin.
7. Judgment The Last Judgment.
Leopold Stoch
New Member
Notice that in your definitions they never use 'your' spelling? Keep arguing and you only confirm the obvious!Originally posted by BuddyLee
I see.
According to the dictionary it is correct as well..:shrug:
1. judg·ment also judge·ment ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jjmnt)
n.
2. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation.
3. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances.
The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating: His judgment of fine music is impeccable.
The capacity to assess situations or circumstances and draw sound conclusions; good sense: She showed good judgment in saving her money. See Synonyms at reason.
An opinion or estimate formed after consideration or deliberation, especially a formal or authoritative decision: awaited the judgment of the umpire.
Law.
4. A determination of a court of law; a judicial decision. A court act creating or affirming an obligation, such as a debt.
5. A writ in witness of such an act.
6. An assertion of something believed.
A misfortune believed to be sent by God as punishment for sin.
7. Judgment The Last Judgment.