2A, considering that Satan seems to be winning all over the world, I do not doubt the outcome, either.2ndAmendment said:
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it is the right place, its just that some want to run any non believers (thats anyone who doesn't believe in their god) out of town on a rail.wxtornado said:You know, maybe you're right 2A. I'm kinda new here, so I just assumed that the "Religion" forum was a place where an atheist could speak his mind. I guess in the SOMD forums, the "Religion" section is just for the pro-God folks, and that's cool too. Love, peace, and hairgrease.
Most of us are pretty open minded.
don't let them run you off
Yep. That is prophesied. Satan's influence will increase with homosexuality, pedophilia, abortion, pornography, and all the other things that have become "normal." Eventually it will be against the world order to believe in God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, pray, go to church, or worship anywhere. Then, as things seem so they cannot get any worse as the armies of the world meet for battle in the Middle East, in a flash, like lightning, Jesus will appear. All in the world will know Him for who He is in an instant. At that time, all decisions will have been made, and it will be time to pay the piper.vraiblonde said:
Jesus is coming. I think time is getting short. In my lifetime? Maybe. But no man knows the hour or the day.
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OMG, Homesick is trying to get back to the point question of this thread.
It is irritating the way that some claim to pray.
Homesick said:
OMG, Homesick is trying to get back to the point question of this thread.It is irritating the way that some claim to pray.
I think Ann Coulter just wrote a book about you.JPC said:
The Bible prophesies that all the world will know in an instant that He is who He is and most will try to hide.BuddyLee said:
You are just irritating in everything.JPC said:
It is irritating the way that some claim to pray.
Won't need it. Picture when the characters look out the locker door in "Men in Black" at the end of the movie. Something like that probably. No, the Bible does not describe it like that.tomchamp said:
It will be awesome for all, fearful for most, and uplifting for those that believe.
Those who say they're doing it right better hope that's true, that's all I can say. Or it might not be as joyful as they may think.
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I can usually tolerate some one pompously praying for me by not giving an "amen".
What irritates me even more is when some one ask that we pray for them.
Is not their prayer sufficient? if not then why not? I say it is quite sufficient indeed.
Is the prayer of others an attempt at trying to get around the fact that God already said "no"? I think so.
Are we to pray for God to give something to another as if God does not know how to handle His own business? I say no.
I do not like any prayer that is telling God what to do, or asking for favors.
Homesick said:
I can usually tolerate some one pompously praying for me by not giving an "amen".What irritates me even more is when some one ask that we pray for them.
Is not their prayer sufficient? if not then why not? I say it is quite sufficient indeed.
Is the prayer of others an attempt at trying to get around the fact that God already said "no"? I think so.
Are we to pray for God to give something to another as if God does not know how to handle His own business? I say no.
I do not like any prayer that is telling God what to do, or asking for favors.
That's actually a pretty good point. If what you want is what God intends for you, why would you need more than your own prayers? Like ganging up on God or something, maybe make Him change His mind or something.JPC said:
Has anyone answered Homesick's second part about what those who say "I'll pray for you" mean by that? I'll have to read back through and see.
Of course JPC, Sr. misses that the Bible instructs us to pray for one another. In doing so, we are following the instruction of the Bible. Thought you knew that? And there are several instances of God being swayed by prayer in the Bible.vraiblonde said:
One word, faith.vraiblonde said:
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People misinterpret those scriptures big time. They pray for their selfishness to be fullfilled.
Like praying to heal their scerosis of the liver so they can get back to the booze. or praying to heal the lung cancer because they sure are not going to quit smoking. or praying for help in paying their rent because they are not going to start a budget and do it themselves.
But still I find the worse ones of all are like this,
Praying for guidance while refusing to read the scriptures.
Praying for faith, wisdom, miracles, etc., and again refusing to check out the scriptures where God has already provided the means to get faith, wisdom, miracles, and much more but they want it free of effort for God to come down and hand deliver it to them because of their great praying, and still I believe that God does answer those selfish prayers too by hand delivering free Bibles to anyone and still they refuse to read the book or even look in and find out for one self even when it is hand delivered to them.
Yes, some few people do it right, but very few.
That is why I do not believe in blind faith, "because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God", and that means read the scriptures and find out the reality.
IMO,
2ndAmendment said:
People misinterpret those scriptures big time. They pray for their selfishness to be fullfilled.Like praying to heal their scerosis of the liver so they can get back to the booze. or praying to heal the lung cancer because they sure are not going to quit smoking. or praying for help in paying their rent because they are not going to start a budget and do it themselves.
But still I find the worse ones of all are like this,
Praying for guidance while refusing to read the scriptures.
Praying for faith, wisdom, miracles, etc., and again refusing to check out the scriptures where God has already provided the means to get faith, wisdom, miracles, and much more but they want it free of effort for God to come down and hand deliver it to them because of their great praying, and still I believe that God does answer those selfish prayers too by hand delivering free Bibles to anyone and still they refuse to read the book or even look in and find out for one self even when it is hand delivered to them.
Yes, some few people do it right, but very few.
That is why I do not believe in blind faith, "because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God", and that means read the scriptures and find out the reality.
IMO,
But you don't believe what you read in the scriptures, You even told that to the pastor of our church with me present. So for you, it is what you believe and nothing else matters. Just like your belief that you don't have to support your child.JPC said:
Like praying to heal their scerosis of the liver so they can get back to the booze. or praying to heal the lung cancer because they sure are not going to quit smoking. or praying for help in paying their rent because they are not going to start a budget and do it themselves.
But still I find the worse ones of all are like this,
Praying for guidance while refusing to read the scriptures.
Praying for faith, wisdom, miracles, etc., and again refusing to check out the scriptures where God has already provided the means to get faith, wisdom, miracles, and much more but they want it free of effort for God to come down and hand deliver it to them because of their great praying, and still I believe that God does answer those selfish prayers too by hand delivering free Bibles to anyone and still they refuse to read the book or even look in and find out for one self even when it is hand delivered to them.
Yes, some few people do it right, but very few.
That is why I do not believe in blind faith, "because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God", and that means read the scriptures and find out the reality.
IMO,
By the way, if you don't believe the Bible except what you hand select and don't believe what the preacher preaches, why do you come to church?