Grossly exaggerate much?
White Supremacists Love The Donald
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Grossly exaggerate much?
steppinthrax
Active Member
I guess when you grew up they had large section of history textbooks missing.
Much of the early buildings in DC were built with the help of slaves. Yes there were white eng and arch, but slaves did the grunt work.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...elosi/legend-slaves-building-capitol-correct/
Not to mention all the food, cotton, grain etc... Those didn't directly build anything, but helped feed the people. Whites weren't prepared nor had enough people who were willing or wanted to do that kind of work. Hence slavery.
It's one of the main reasons why the U.S., being such a young country accomplished so much.
steppinthrax
Active Member
I agree with much of what you said,
With the exception that the left's idea of "path to citizenship" is somehow harming ordinary citizens. If your job is being threatened by a recently converted (illegal to legal) immigrant, then you have no job skills....
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Labor supply is labor supply regardless of job skills.
TheLibertonian
New Member
Not food.
Cash crops. I mean, there were certainly slaves who grew food but mass production of food for export or non-personal use didn't really start until the invention of the tractor, which was after slavery ended.
Oh, also refrigeration.
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steppinthrax
Active Member
And again, I understand what you are saying.
However, if you are being threatened by someone who barely speaks English, then how about pulling yourself up a few and getting some skills. Hell, isn't that what republicans are known for, you are in full control of your career/destiny/future?
steppinthrax
Active Member
After slavery, I'm referring to slavery as the initial seed that allowed this country to get started and setup. You can't deny that w/o slavery the US wouldn't be where it is today.
TheLibertonian
New Member
Yeeeeee-ssss and no. The north and the south were essentially different countries with a completely disconnected from each other economic system. The south also remained largely without infrastructure until after the civil war, partly due to the sort of feudal structure that they and going on.
Black slaves didn't really start being imported into the country until the late late 1600's and early 1700's, by which point the "seeds" were already there. Due to rather restrictive trade laws by the English the south didn't really start making money as we think until after the revolution, and thus it's "heyday" was only roughly 70 years until european expansion into the middle east and the securing of the spice routes of the east indies as well as the Egyptian cotton, which completely undercut american cotton.
After all, keep in mind the north was settled much sooner then the south, for the wood and the fish.
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Hijinx
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The original slavery in America was indentured whites and Indians and Irish and those fresh out of debter' s prisons.
The black slaves came later as New England and Dutch ships started going to Africa and bringing them back, purchased from Muslims who captured them.
So: In fact Obama is right, Muslims did help build America----by supplying slaves.
TheLibertonian
New Member
Good lord no.
Nooooooooooooo.
Black slaves were being imported into the Caribbean as early as the 1500's by the Dutch and Portuguese who bought them from West African Kingdoms who were not Muslim. The biggest Muslim empire was the Songay and they were quite a ways inland, and the Mossi (The western african kingdom grouping) largely remained animist until it's fall in the 1800's, with the biggest muslim influence being a influx of immigrants and also one of the kings towards the end allowed an Imam to preach in the palace. In fact the Mossi's actively resisted muslim expansion.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Whatever:
TheLibertonian
New Member
It's not bloody whatever, you just completely misrepresented an incredibly important part of history in order to take a shot at muslims and obama!
littlelady
God bless the USA
I interpret Hijinx's last couple posts different than you do. My opinion of you is that you think know one knows anything, but you. I do have a question. I believe I read that you are a teacher. When do you teach? Or is this forum your classroom? You have spent an inordinate amount of time on this forum to be doing anything else. Just wondering.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Whatever.
TheLibertonian
New Member
I don't think I'm the only one who knows anything, but I think I'm one of the few people here willing to set aside bias for intellectual honesty. I don't like Obama. The man is a liar and feckless. I think he's overall been a bad president. But I'm not willing to start making crap up about him because I dislike him or changing history because it would suit me better or be more damning to people I dislike.
TheLibertonian
New Member
Priceless.
Says the man who is a bully and a sophist and refuses to acknowledge any facts that don't line up with his world view.
When was the last time you ever admitted to be wrong? When was the last time you showed an ounce of humility in the face of the vastness of human knowledge and your ability to comprehend it?
I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong, but no one else seems to be.
But hey, why let facts or reason or sapere aude stand in the face of blind ideology, rhetoric, and dogma.
Good lord. That's why I have that idiot on ignore. The stupid is way too strong in that one.
TheLibertonian
New Member
"You have a different opinion then me therefore you're stupid". Are you five.