Why this generations of kids is so rude?
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Beaver-Cleaver
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And you're a police officer, right? So you only deal with, for the most part, troubled and misbehaved children?
I deal with children everyday. Lots of them. And I agree that kids can be little terrorists. It's all on the parents, because they expect the schools to babysit their kids.
Free socialized daycare.
The schools have made every attempt to give kids the opportunity to live a better life. There are many incentives in place for kids to behave. And they're working. Overall, referrals and detentions are down -- way down -- from last year.
You don't know what you're talking about, so do yourself a favor and keep that hole in your face shut when it comes to the public education system.
Peter Forsberg
New Member
I like the kids who think the roads are for them not cars. They think it is funny to play chicken with your car.
Not so much for the kid that was hit on Mervell Dean Road a few weeks ago or the one that almost became my speed bump.
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Beaver-Cleaver
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They're full of
excuses when it comes to punishing their children, aren't they?It's all the government's fault.
But they want government in everyone's bedroom telling two adults they can't have sex.
HeavyChevy75
Podunk FL
We have several of those in our neighborhood. Walking down the middle of the street and giving you dirty looks when you drive by. Excuse me..roads are for driving not you walking.
Pete
Repete
In Georgia anyone in town would beat your ass if they caught you screwing up and then tell your parents they did it.
Ringgggg: hello?
Caller: Mrs Pete I caught young Pete throwing apples on the tin roof of the hardware store so I whooped his butt for ye.
Mom of Pete: Oh thank you so much! have a great day and see you at church Sunday.
caller: yes'um.
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toppick08
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In Georgia anyone in town would beat your ass if they caught you screwing up and then tell your parents they did it.
Ringgggg: hello?
Caller: Mrs Pete I caught young Pete throwing apples on the tin roof of the hardware store so I whooped his butt for ye.
Mom of Pete: Oh thank you so much! have a great day and see you at church Sunday.
caller: yes'um.
.........Where do you get that? Tell me one factual example in Southern Maryland where someone has gone to jail for simply smacking a child's buttocks, or using soap in their mouth as a course of discipline?
sunflower
Loving My Life...
Thats for the kids, not the parents... Try simple stuff then let them spend a day in jail..
SoccerMom2
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SoccerMom2
New Member
Worked for my brother. He was a ba$$ as a teenager. Well that soon stopped when he got his but thrown in jail and some dude whooped his a$$ in the cell. Not to be mean to my brother but he deserved it.
Sorry. Thought you were repeating mgdbla or whatever the name was which said you couldn't hit a child. The fact of the matter is you can physically discipline your children, you just can't do it maliciously or with the intent to injure them.
In Georgia anyone in town would beat your ass if they caught you screwing up and then tell your parents they did it.
Ringgggg: hello?
Caller: Mrs Pete I caught young Pete throwing apples on the tin roof of the hardware store so I whooped his butt for ye.
Mom of Pete: Oh thank you so much! have a great day and see you at church Sunday.
caller: yes'um.
glitch
Devil's Advocate
A whole generation of kids lost.....thanks to propaganda in the public skool. AND AND their enabling parents.....I can't stand enabling "not my kid" parents.
Rude Kids
by Chuck Colson
The Fruits of Overdeveloped Self-Esteem
May 21, 2009
A recent report on MSNBC suggested that parents’ pre-occupation with their kids’ self-esteem may have produced “rude” children who lack compassion for others.
According to MSNBC, “many experts say today’s kids are ruder than ever.” The word “rude” encompasses a variety of behaviors, from selfishness to deliberate malice. In one example, a pre-schooler deliberately tripped a woman in a crowded restaurant and then bragged to her mother about it. In another, a child continuously insults his mother in front of his mortified grandmother.
In both cases, the parent neither says nor does anything.
Apparently, these aren’t isolated instances: a 2005 Yale University study found that “preschool students are expelled at a rate more than three times that of children in grades K-12 because of behavioral problems.”
It isn’t only preschoolers. The media has documented the behavior in the workplace of those born between 1980 and 1996. Words used to describe the behavior of the so-called “Generation Y” include “self-centered” and “arrogant.” As one management professor put it, “They don’t know when to shut up.” And having grown up questioning their parents, they now question their bosses.
Whether or not today’s kids are actually “ruder than ever,” the article and others like it reflect the sense that something has gone wrong in the way we raise our children. Specifically, it has to do with “popular parenting movements focusing on self-esteem.”
These movements produce parents who “[respond] with hostility to anyone they perceive as getting in the child’s way.” By “getting in the child’s way,” they mean doing anything that might make the child feel less-than-wonderful about him or herself—in the classroom, among their peers, or on the playing field.
So today we have a generation of children who believe that the world revolves around them and that they are entitled to feel good about themselves.
Expecting children raised this way to be compassionate or even polite betrays a profound ignorance of human nature—the same ignorance that led to the “popular parenting movements” that created the mess in the first place.
These movements were inspired by the ideas of Romantic Enlightenment thinkers like Jean-Jacques Rousseau. According to Rousseau, “There is no original perversity in the human heart.” So, he says, “when children’s wills are not spoiled by our fault, children [desire] nothing uselessly.” So parents and teachers should strive to produce children who are “authentic, self-sufficient, and autonomous.”
According to E.D. Hirsch, this Romantic ideal that “each person has a natural and uniquely divine spark, which, if nurtured, cannot go wrong,” is behind the emphasis on self-esteem. The problem, as Hirsch points out, is that there is no proven connection between high self-esteem and actual achievement.
In other words, feeling good about yourself isn’t enough to make you good. You have to be taught right from wrong and made to feel bad when you deserve it. As the Scripture says, true parental devotion includes the willingness to correct our children.
The alternative isn’t “authenticity”—it’s spoiling their wills in the worst possible way.
BreakPoint: Rude Kids, 5/21/09 - 5/21/2009 11:35:27 AM
I've never seen Rousseau's work used/interpreted in that way, interesting. I'd have to assume the author would lump Pestalozzi into this group as well. Such a shame.
As for the behavioral issues we're seeing today. I'd invite all would-be parents to read up on ABA. From my experience there's no better/quicker way to extinguish/modify a problem behavior. Best part is, once you get past all the jargon ABA is really just common sense.
Southern Belle
New Member
I was in Walmart the other day grocery shopping. These 2 kids were running through the isles and I had to stop walking because of them running in front of me several times. I almost hit one of them with my cart because they were running towards me. The parent was there with them but never said a word. My children did that once, and once was all it took for them to get spanked. You have good parents who care about how their children act in public and then you have those who don't care or don't want to be bothered.
DooDoo1402
The fear of Smell
Tell you what... if you, as an adult, happens to be standing in front of most any judge because you were defending yourself for just slapping a child... you will find the bailiff wrestling the handcuffs on your wrists there mister (or whoever). I am not supporting spoiling children, but the courts AND most law enforcement will treat any PHYSICAL correction to be abusive if the child says so!
I think that is the point of the first person saying it... like it or not. That is the way it is...
You are absolutely wrong. Give me one example in Southern Maryland where a parent or guardian was arrested for physically disciplining a child without causing the child injury? I will tell you there are none! A parent or guardian has the absolute right to physically discipline their child. I challenge you to give me one example!