Why you're invisible on a bike

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
From what I've seen, yes. The louder the pipes, the more the more desperately someone is yelling "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" and rides to gain attention.

Guess I better keep a look out for those obnoxious bassturds. Imagine. Hmph!
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Yeah, and then they are distracted by you and plow into the Gold wing in front of them stopped for the light. For every plus of loud pipes, it is demonstrable that there is a least one minus and there is no conclusive evidence that 'loud pipes save lives'. :buddies:
Maybe they hit the GW because they were stunned by the beautiful Harley that just rode past them? :shrug:

After 38 years of riding I view every vehicle as a person who doesn't see me. Taking the "offensive" role is how I have to drive. I don't assume that they see me, I assume they don't, so I make sure that I stay out of blind spots, watch their every move and leave myself an "out" until I get past them. Here's why:

Many years ago I was traveling down 235 in the left lane on my Harley and a lady in the right lane changed into my lane as I was going by her. I saw her coming over but, instead of me slowing down or blowing the horn, I decided to :yikes: her. I moved over to the small paved part of the road between the grass and the yellow line and pulled right up next to her window. Of course she was all :yikes: and :faint: when she saw me. She must have said "I'm sorry" 5 times so all I did was shake my head and drive on and hope that it was: Message received. :cheers:
 

ginwoman

Well-Known Member
Maybe they hit the GW because they were stunned by the beautiful Harley that just rode past them? :shrug:

After 38 years of riding I view every vehicle as a person who doesn't see me. Taking the "offensive" role is how I have to drive. I don't assume that they see me, I assume they don't, so I make sure that I stay out of blind spots, watch their every move and leave myself an "out" until I get past them. Here's why:

Many years ago I was traveling down 235 in the left lane on my Harley and a lady in the right lane changed into my lane as I was going by her. I saw her coming over but, instead of me slowing down or blowing the horn, I decided to :yikes: her. I moved over to the small paved part of the road between the grass and the yellow line and pulled right up next to her window. Of course she was all :yikes: and :faint: when she saw me. She must have said "I'm sorry" 5 times so all I did was shake my head and drive on and hope that it was: Message received. :cheers:

She prolly had poopy in her drawers after that....
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
35 years of riding here...40 if you count the trail bikes...and I agree 100% that the "they are all out trying to kill me" attitude must be second nature.

You even develop a sixth-sense of the stupid..an ability to often anticipate what stuoid things other drivers will do. I was rolling along on my Vision on a straight stretch of road one day and saw, a hundred yards or so up ahead on the right, a car waiting to pull out from a side street. Something told me the car was going to pull right out in front of me. It did.

I had plenty of time to slow and maneuver...but I intentionally kept the bike aimed right at the driver's door until I absolutely had to swerve..and I actually swerved and ducked behind and to the shoulder side (noting beforehand it was paved and 'clean'.)I'll never forget the look on the face of the older woman driver as she stared straight at me through the driers side window with a look of total horror on her face. Never seen eyes and mouth that wide open before; she realized (too late for her to do anything) what she had just done.

I didn't bother her the least after I returned to my lane and went on..I could tell she needed no further instruction that day.

Glad I wasn't driving my '47 Harley....:whistle:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
One of those statistics that probably doesn't take into account a few other factors?

Well, there is NO statistic that points to loud pipes actually saving lives..

But a few that point the other direction..

Majority of fatal motorcycle accidents happen to bikes with after market or "loud pipes"..

One of the factors NOT considered.. Do people buy into the "loud pipes save lives" so they don't ride like everyone is out to kill them? Do riders think the obnoxious noise will save them from the driver pulling out in front of them so they don't have to be as attentive?

And of course we know the first thing out of the cage drivers mouth after an impact with a motorcycle is almost always, "I didn't see them!" and not "I didn't hear them!"
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Apparently you need louder pipes..

I learned well from that experience. That Yammy Vision I had was whisper quiet.

Nobody has pulled out in front of me since I started riding only bikes with completely open pipes fed intermittently by the exhaust products of a 1920s engine technology..

The correlation is clear and irrefutable. I'm much safer now. :coffee:
 

renegadeslave

Obsidian Salamander
Where do ya'll put the muffler at?
 

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itsbob

I bowl overhand
I learned well from that experience. That Yammy Vision I had was whisper quiet.

Nobody has pulled out in front of me since I started riding only bikes with completely open pipes fed intermittently by the exhaust products of a 1920s engine technology..

The correlation is clear and irrefutable. I'm much safer now. :coffee:

Nobody has pulled out in front of me since I added the Million Candlepower HID, and Motolights on the front..

AND I don't disturb the neighbors.. Just the people in front of me when I get too close!

Then they jump out of their cars with their retinas burning, and blood pouring from their eyesockets screaming.. "I see you, I see you!!"
 
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Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Nobody has pulled out in front of me since I added the Million Candlepower HID, and Motolights on the front..

AND I don't disturb the neighbors.. Just the people in front of me when I get too close!

I might have noticed...that's your Beemer with 750,000 candlepower on the front, isn't it? I think it melted some of the paint on my car...

So you burn their eyes out of the sockets...I shatter their ear drums and fill their lungs with the acrid smoke from incompletely combusted gasoline and engine oil. Either way...we've got 'em on the defensive.:buddies:
 
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