Wife SWAP

[Bann]

Maybe 'dog humpers' is where your line is drawn, but not for others. Don't think for one second that the NAMBLA crowd don't believe their behavior is perfectly normal and their rights shouldn't be recognized. If 'dog humpers' came out tomorrow demanding their rights be recognized would you be posting your disgust at their wretched behavior while someone else pops in asking you what you care what someone else does in their personal lives.

My point is… what used to be considered immoral and depraved is now becoming the norm. The moral goal post continues to move while we scream about what’s gone wrong with this world. Do we draw a line and say ‘okay, it stops here’, or do we just continue to move the goal post in the interest of ‘it’s none my business’?

I have no interest in demanding our government makes laws banning such behavior; but I have a big interest in our so-called ‘civilized society’ frowning on things that we have long known to be immoral. What someone does in the privacy of their homes is none of my business; that is until they come out and demand that I accept it, then tell our schools that they must teach it to our kids as normal behavior. THEN it does affect all of us. Don’t think for one minute that it stops with gay marriage.

I understand your points. I think it is a stretch to include marrying animals in these rants. For real?

Also, the couple is married & have a live in lover.Not my cup of tea - but there are plenty o' people already doing this. UNMARRIED. They're gonna keep on doing what they do. Gay people will always be with Gay - people. I doubt the right to marry changes that. I don't see anyone asking to marry a dog.

 

[sockgirl77]

Well, that is until you have to pay for it. Then it becomes very much your business.

Nobody but me is paying for my kids. This is Easter. I'm with my family. It's pathetic that I allowed someone to suck me into this thread. I had a fb message sent to me. I should not have opened it.

Happy Easter everyone. Have a wonderful day.

 

[GURPS]

Or did you still want to pretend they are all one and the same?

shacking up together was considered a bad thing in the 1950's, by the 1970s, it has lost most of the shock factor ..... now phft

30 yrs ago, being Homosexual was still considered a mental disease ... now people celebrate queers getting marriage ....

nudists and pornography ... now porn is everywhere, 12 yr old girls are paraded in catalogs in 'adult' clothing [abercrombie and fitch - IIRC] , like that is the new normal

30 more yrs ....

 

[GURPS]

It's pathetic that I allowed someone to suck me into this thread. I had a fb message sent to me.

I see the whisper net is alive and well ............

Happy Easter

 

[itsrequired]

The difference is that they go after minors who are legally unable to give consent.

Consenting adults, people. Consenting adults.

Not dogs.

Not children.

Not livestock.

Consenting adults.

Can we now dispense with equating children and animals to adults who are fully capable of making their marital and sexual decisions without your guidance or permission? Or did you still want to pretend they are all one and the same?

I agree mostly with what you are saying. If my child, who is an adult, came home and told me they were gay and was going to marry another woman, I would be okay with that. I have to say however, I have a different take on a polygamist. I think that is degrading to say that one man should be bedding more than one woman. If my child was in that sort of relationship, I would hope she would get out!

In so far as people going to the other extremes, as you said, there aren't consenting human adults.

One other thing. I think the point of the op was that the media was editing the show to make the "normal" couple who have conservative values made out to be the wako's! That's just stupid hollywood!

 

[Hank]

Umm NO Not really, I could careless ........

If you could care less then why did you bring her name up?

 

[PsyOps]

The difference is that they go after minors who are legally unable to give consent.

Consenting adults, people. Consenting adults.

Not dogs.

Not children.

Not livestock.

Consenting adults.

Can we now dispense with equating children and animals to adults who are fully capable of making their marital and sexual decisions without your guidance or permission? Or did you still want to pretend they are all one and the same?

I’m not equating; I’m simply making a point. I certain see a large difference between two consenting adults and children/animals. I’m talking about people that believe what they are doing is okay simply because they believe it and don’t care what you think about it.

I’m also saying that humans have proven that they can’t just stop where a certain part of the population believes that’s where it should stop. Abortion is a good example of that. Look at what we’re dealing with today because we’d turned a blind eye to it. Abortion clinics turned into complete baby slaughter houses. These doctors doing this believed they were okay in what they were doing. How did we get to this point? We made killing babies okay and some didn’t differentiate between 1st, 2nd, 3rd trimester, partial birth, botched abortions. Some seem to see it all as the same. Look at government spending and providing free things to everyone. Human behavior doesn’t seem to understand there are limits.

Now here we are talking about and accepting gay marriage. It WILL be taught in our schools. Our kids WILL be subjected to ideals that some teachers feel are okay that you will feel is extreme. And when they grow up, they will take it to the next level. It never stops. There no line in the sand.

And we'll continue to throw our hands in the air wondering why things have gone so wrong.

 

[vraiblonde]

I think that is degrading to say that one man should be bedding more than one woman. If my child was in that sort of relationship, I would hope she would get out!

If she were happy and the guy and the other wife were good people, I wouldn't have a problem after my initial I don't know as it's so much a sexual thing as a running the household thing. You have a man and a woman, both with careers, raising children - heck yeah they want a wife!

*I* want a wife.

 

[vraiblonde]

I don't see anyone asking to marry a dog.

I'm sure there's some nutter out there who wants to marry a dog. But nobody asks the dog if *it* wants to get married.








That would be some kinda rejection, you ask your dog to marry you and she shoots you down. "I'm sorry, GURP, you're just not my type and I think we're better off as friends."

 

[bcp]

Ok, allow me to pipe in with what is sure to be an unacceptable opinion here.

Wife swap, now if you mean like on the TV where they swap and each wife lives the life of the other with no sex involved for a week or so, could be a fun experiment, on the other hand, if the wife of a guy that makes 70k a year goes off for a week with the guy that makes 70 million a year,, well, that could cause a few issues down the road I would think. But still it could be a fun swap.

Would love to see little Barbie's face the first time I order her to "Get me a beer bitch" on the other hand, not sure I want to see my face just moments after.

Now, if by wife swap you mean that you do someones wife while they do yours?
When this sounds like a good idea to any married couple, I think its time to look at why you are married in the first place, and if that marriage should continue.
I personally did not get married to bang other guys wives, and I damn sure am not going to let some other guy bang mine. This right here is one of the reasons that handguns were made.

If other people want to play this way, then more power to them,,, right up until the moment that they suggest my wife and I join in, then we have a problem. A big one.

and, I also am not sure what Socki has to do with this wife swapping thing. Out of wedlock or not, she IS taking care of her children, and I am not contributing my tax dollar to provide for her. Being one that is not in agreement with abortion, I say good on her for stepping up and taking responsibility for the lives she created. There are a whole bunch out there that dont have the responsibility that she exhibits in this.

 

[bcp]

I'm sure there's some nutter out there who wants to marry a dog. But nobody asks the dog if *it* wants to get married.

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Thats just nasty,,
goats on the other hand,,,,,,


(am I getting a time out now?)

 

[vraiblonde]

and, I also am not sure what Socki has to do with this wife swapping thing.

She has nothing to do with it, especially since he already admitted he has TWO illegitimate children.

Glass houses and all...

If other people want to play this way, then more power to them,,, right up until the moment that they suggest my wife and I join in, then we have a problem. A big one.

And there you have it. Other peoples' marriages and sex lives are nobody else's business. ESPECIALLY the government's. We can disapprove all we want, but we cannot legislate our version of morality.

 

[bcp]

She has nothing to do with it, especially since he already admitted he has TWO illegitimate children.

Glass houses and all...



And there you have it. Other peoples' marriages and sex lives are nobody else's business. ESPECIALLY the government's. We can disapprove all we want, but we cannot legislate our version of morality.

We can legislate it and often do.
if wife swapping were on a ballot to vote on being legal or not, I could cast my vote for illegal and by doing so I would be adding to the end product of legislation that was either for or against it.
What they cant legislate is what my thoughts on it are and how I openly speak about it when asked.

 

[vraiblonde]

What they cant legislate is what my thoughts on it are and how I openly speak about it when asked.

That's what you think. Hate speech, anyone?

What a crazy country this has become.

 

[BigBlue]

The difference is that they go after minors who are legally unable to give consent.

Consenting adults, people. Consenting adults.

Not dogs.

Not children.

Not livestock.

Consenting adults.

?

What do you mean "no livestock", people from St.Marys county want to know?

 

[PsyOps]

What a crazy country this has become.

And there you have it.......

And we'll continue to throw our hands in the air wondering why things have gone so wrong.

 

[PsyOps]

I understand your points. I think it is a stretch to include marrying animals in these rants. For real?

Also, the couple is married & have a live in lover.Not my cup of tea - but there are plenty o' people already doing this. UNMARRIED. They're gonna keep on doing what they do. Gay people will always be with Gay - people. I doubt the right to marry changes that. I don't see anyone asking to marry a dog.

FWIW…

Indiana Woman Wants to Marry Her Pet Dog – Tries to Rally Support From Gay Rights’ Activists

And I realize this is not in the US but…

Man bites dog? No, woman weds dolphin - World news - Weird news | NBC News

And…

The Spoof : Woman Sues State of Florida, Wants to Marry Her Dog funny spoof magazine story

So, we’ve become comfortable with accepting gay marriage and gay lifestyles; our schools are already teaching our kids to accept these lifestyles. Something that has been believed to be immoral for thousands of years is now acceptable. We’re down with that.

Where is the line the sand for you? Where do you say “no way are you teaching my child that this is okay”?

 

[Bann]

FWIW…

Indiana Woman Wants to Marry Her Pet Dog – Tries to Rally Support From Gay Rights’ Activists

And I realize this is not in the US but…

Man bites dog? No, woman weds dolphin - World news - Weird news | NBC News

And…

The Spoof : Woman Sues State of Florida, Wants to Marry Her Dog funny spoof magazine story

So, we’ve become comfortable with accepting gay marriage and gay lifestyles; our schools are already teaching our kids to accept these lifestyles. Something that has been believed to be immoral for thousands of years is now acceptable. We’re down with that.

Where is the line the sand for you? Where do you say “no way are you teaching my child that this is okay”?

Unfortunately, I don't have time to follow all those links right now - but they don't appear to be serious stories.

and besides- the 3 people in the OP weren't married or seeking marriage. They were co-habitating - which many, many people do and have done for eons. Look at Hugh Hefner. The problem with the show is with the CREATORS/producers, etc. THEY are portraying the Tea Partiers as freaks. I get the problem with that - but no one is going to change the reality of Hollyweird.

It may be out of the "norm" for a married couple to have a GF but it is not muchdifferent than what HH has been doing for years. :shrug: I think to extrapolate that and equate it with marrying animals is

 

[vraiblonde]

Look at Hugh Hefner.

Good point. And his live-in posse had their own reality TV show.

Psy, we have been conditioned in this country to accept mental illness, period. I'm okay, you're okay.

Forget about gay people and polygamy. Turn on one of those Bachelor shows, where people show up to vie for the "love" of a complete stranger. Look at Honey Boo Boo. Jersey Shore. Those people are all heterosexuals. At least a polygamist family genuinely cares for one another and their children.

I don't see how you can tell me that a committed gay couple or polygamist family will make worse parents than Snookie and her lay of the moment, or Kim and Kanye.

 

[PsyOps]

Good point. And his live-in posse had their own reality TV show.

Psy, we have been conditioned in this country to accept mental illness, period. I'm okay, you're okay.

Forget about gay people and polygamy. Turn on one of those Bachelor shows, where people show up to vie for the "love" of a complete stranger. Look at Honey Boo Boo. Jersey Shore. Those people are all heterosexuals. At least a polygamist family genuinely cares for one another and their children.

I don't see how you can tell me that a committed gay couple or polygamist family will make worse parents than Snookie and her lay of the moment, or Kim and Kanye.

But you’ve admitted it yourself.

What a crazy country this has become.

Do you think HH has contributed to this moral decline at all? Do you even believe we are in a moral decline? Are you even interested in connecting the dots:

Throw more violence, depravity, etc… in our media while making all efforts to remove religion and things that have long been considered moral. It wasn’t enough to simply have a magazine that showed nude women (with really interesting articles ). Things had to be taken to the next step: Penthouse, Hustler, porn that takes it all to the most radical extremes.

And yet you’ve made my point with what’s on our TV screens. Rather than moving toward a more civilized way of portraying humans, we find more creative ways to demoralize our species. All in the interest of attempting to become more tolerant of ‘alternative lifestyles’.

I would say that the people on the Bachelor, the parents of Snookie, Kanye, The Kardashians, etc… are products of all the things we’ve been fed over the decades. Can you really admit that we’re ‘evolving’ into a better society because of all of these things?