Woman charged for going topless in front of stepchildren

and her inappropriate behavior,
Maybe. We really don't know everything that happened. Did the kids really just surprise them? Did she make any effort to cover? :sshrug:

But how many times has something similar happened, a couple making love int he bedroom and a kid walks in. Does anyone get arrested?
 

Gilligan

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oh....it's not the same thing?
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vraiblonde

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Maybe. We really don't know everything that happened. Did the kids really just surprise them? Did she make any effort to cover?

According to the story, she was topless in the garage and the kids walked in. By her own admission, she did not make an effort to cover up.

When her husband’s three children, ages 9 through 13, walked in, she “explained she considers herself a feminist and wanted to make a point that everybody should be fine with walking around their house or elsewhere with skin showing,” her lawyers said in court documents.


But how many times has something similar happened, a couple making love int he bedroom and a kid walks in. Does anyone get arrested?

This is why bedroom doors have locks. What kid wants to walk in on their parents banging? Ick.
 

black dog

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The up-side to this thread is knowing who to keep your children away from.

The up-side to this thread is knowing who to keep your children away from.

You best control your kids internet, tv, phone, all friends home time, no overnights and a host of other venues if the sighting of a pair of boobs and what has been posted here upsets you.
The world is gonna be a shocking place to them if they ever move out from under Mommy's skirt...

You didn't answer my question in a earlier post?
 

lucky_bee

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Don't forget that I too was a stepmom and raised two girls full time who did not belong to me. You're turning this into a personal attack on you or stepmothers in general, and that was not my intent. My comments are regarding this particular stepmom and her inappropriate behavior, not an indictment of all stepmothers.
As are mine. I don't forget which is why I'm sure you didn't mean what you said and how it came across. I am not taking this personally, only trying to add other layers that no one wants to rationally consider. We cannot know her or the kids' comfort level around her therefor we cannot decide for these kids how seeing her topless is completely inappropriate. We do not know their relationship. They could all have a great one and be perfectly fine with their occasionally topless fruitloop stepmom and the ex-wife can still insist twisting this into some child abuse case. That's all I'm trying to show a side of. I only bring my personal experience in this to say that you cannot control situations in your ex's home unless it becomes appropriate to do so and I still don't consider this an appropriate case to bring in the authorities. I do not have any experience with disgruntled biological mothers or nudity, our only contentions are about vegetables and chores. But I cannot emphasize enough, at the end of the day you cannot control your ex's household. All you can do is appropriately prepare your kids for when they encounter situations they don't agree with.

My opinion still stands that if a stepmother is topless around her stepkids, that's between her, the kids, and their dad based soley on their relationship - and as we all know, that relationtionship and comfort-level widely varies. And if my kids' friends' mom does the same, it is 100% an entirely different situation.
 

vraiblonde

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All you can do is appropriately prepare your kids for when they encounter situations they don't agree with.

I was lucky that my kids' stepmom isn't out there in any meaningful way. But if she'd have insisted on running around naked in front of my kids when they went to visit I'd have asked her nicely to stop, and if she refused I'd have ripped her face off.

But you're right - it does on some level depend on the family relationship. The story isn't clear where the kids live or who has custody, or give any pertinent detail. I presumed the stepmom is the ahole because she whipped out the "I'm a feminist and can do what I want!" barfbag. Plus, honestly, in the photo accompanying the story she looks like an ahole.

The story said that CPS investigated because of another situation with the kids not related to the stepmom. It would be helpful to know what that's all about.
 

GURPS

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It's not clear when exactly the incident took place. (One recollection puts it in the fall of 2016, while another has it in late 2017 or early 2018.) According to the stepmother, Tilli Buchanan of West Valley City, it happened after she and her husband installed insulation in their garage. Upon finishing, the couple returned to the main part of the house and removed their itchy clothes. At that point Buchanan's stepchildren walked downstairs and saw the couple shirtless. To ease their embarrassment, Buchanan then attempted to explain that her being topless was not inherently sexual and compared it to them seeing their father's bare chest.

Prosecutors tell a different story. They say Buchanan purposefully took her shirt off in front of her stepchildren while under the influence of alcohol, then told her husband that she would only put her shirt back on if she saw his penis.

https://reason.com/2019/11/21/a-uta...y-for-going-topless-in-front-of-her-stepkids/
 

Yooper

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Random comments:

Love, American Style had a skit ("Love and the Hand Maiden") where a model (Michelle Lee!) was willing to take off everything but her gloves. The guy she was dating eventually had no interest in the "everything"; instead, he was totally fixated with the challenge of getting her to remove her gloves.

I was surprised no one mentioned "nudist colonies" (these days or back in the hippy hey day). On that note, years and years ago there was a woman where I worked who made a comment to her colleagues one day that the entire family walked around naked in the house (found out due to the water cooler gossip getting to my NCO). Similar ages to what was in the story, they weren't step children, though.

I suspect there's far more to the story. Bad relationship between the ex's? Maybe a conservative Mormon vs. feminist? Alcohol?

Anyway, one of the downsides of the cultural shift these days is the idea that everyone can do whatever the heck they please. It's gone from "the majority rules" to the entire other end of the spectrum. A focus on self over consideration for others. Not asking others to see it my way, but my rule of thumb is 1 Corinthians 10:23:
“Everything is permissible,” but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible,” but not everything is edifying.

--- End of line (MCP)
 
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Merlin99

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So you also think it's okay for a man to be walking around naked in front of his young stepdaughters with his dick hanging out? His house, right? And you wouldn't think that was skeevy at all, right?

I'd like an answer to that question, please. I've asked it twice now and so far it's been ignored.
Would it make a difference if we were to remove the "step" in these stories?
 

vraiblonde

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Would it make a difference if we were to remove the "step" in these stories?

Not really. I'm grossed out by any adult who wants to run around naked in front of kids, but I'm also against a stepparent not respecting the boundaries of a bio parent. So this one is a two-fer. And FTW we get our resident "I hate my ex-wife so all ex-wives are evil" brigade chiming in.

Both the OP and the Reason take are highly slanted and lacking in details, so it's hard to know what to believe. It should be pretty simple to get a statement from the 13 year old and find out what actually happened but so far it doesn't appear anyone has done that, or at least not that they want to tell us about.

But really I don't care. Not my kids, not my problem. It was just something to talk about besides boring repetitious politics.
 
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