I travel from the base every day. At least four or five times a week, I will see some douche pull into the right lane, pass all the cars and try to pull back into the through lane. I then see a black and white or state trooper turn their lights on and pull the persons over. What more is it you want law enforcement to do?
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I travel from the base every day. At least four or five times a week, I will see some douche pull into the right lane, pass all the cars and try to pull back into the through lane. I then see a black and white or state trooper turn their lights on and pull the persons over. What more is it you want law enforcement to do?
MiddleGround
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About half a dozen calls to the Leonardtown County and State barracks. Had my friend ask his friends still active with the state troopers what can be done. State LEO says contact the county. County LEO says they will "look into it." Mmmmm-Kay
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I can't ever remember a police officer doing radar enforcement on that roadway during rush hour traffic or any where else during rush hour traffic. You can conflate their running speed enforcement at other times to have something to do with this problem, but I haven't seen it. I have seen them pull people over for the very reason you are describing. If that is the case, I ask again. What more would you have them do?
MiddleGround
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You see this every time huh?
I drive that route EVERY SINGLE DAY. I have seen 1 time where a LEO has pulled anyone over. It is a rarity to even see a LEO on the 235 during rush hour. (hours being 3:30 to 5:30pm M-F) I have been driving that route for 5 years now.
Scratch that... I do see LEO all the time on that route. WHEN THEY ARE CLEANING UP AFTER AN ACCIDENT!
MiddleGround
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Reading comprehension...
If runnign radar is their prime objective (as discussed.. yet missed by you.. in previous posts) then I said they can run it during those times and also look for other violations.
And who is conflating now? Like I said above, I drive that route every damn day (many times a day) and have seen maybe 1 or 2 times where a LEO has had someone pulled over during rush hour! I think you might have enforcement and accident response mixed up
You see this every time huh?
I drive that route EVERY SINGLE DAY. I have seen 1 time where a LEO has pulled anyone over. It is a rarity to even see a LEO on the 235 during rush hour. (hours being 3:30 to 5:30pm M-F) I have been driving that route for 5 years now.
Scratch that... I do see LEO all the time on that route. WHEN THEY ARE CLEANING UP AFTER AN ACCIDENT!
And I have posted before that I have seen LEO's out there pulling people over for lane running/jumping.
GWguy
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Thank you. You could have just said that instead of the defensive response.
You see this every time huh?
I drive that route EVERY SINGLE DAY. I have seen 1 time where a LEO has pulled anyone over. It is a rarity to even see a LEO on the 235 during rush hour. (hours being 3:30 to 5:30pm M-F) I have been driving that route for 5 years now.
Scratch that... I do see LEO all the time on that route. WHEN THEY ARE CLEANING UP AFTER AN ACCIDENT!
Where did I say I see it every time? I didn't. I said four or five times a week I see a douche being pulled over for this infraction. If you paid attention to law enforcement issues in St. Mary's County, you would know that the highest call volume is between 1600 and 2000 hours. That's calls for service where the law enforcement officers aren't able to be conducting traffic. Try attending a citizens academy or go to a community meeting. You might better educate yourself rather than ranting on an anonymous forum about your incorrect assumptions.
I'm sorry, what part of RIGHT TURN ONLY don't you grasp? No where does it say "Merge". It's a turn ONLY lane (with arrows clearly indicating right turns).
Thank you and have a pleasant tomorrow.
PS I rarely see someone pull out of one of the driveways and make a complete 90 turn without crossing the solid white line into the right most travel lane.
One of my good friends is a retired state trooper. The officers were able to camp out wherever they A) were legally allowed to; and B) thought it would garner them the best results.
The "orders" they received for the shift were general service orders (i.e. traffic, patrol, etc.)
Patrol - that would mean covering mohre than one fixed location / moving within an area.
Particularly at rush hour, where exactly should they "camp out". It's not like there is a break down lane (shoulder) on 235. Not sure how a business would feel if they blocked their driveway while camping out.
The other problem is perception, how do you know that person isn't turning right at the next driveway? Mind you, it says must turn, what would you say if you were using it as a "merge" lane and were written up? Would you say you were merging.
MiddleGround
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I can only guess that some of you are the very same asshats that use 235 as a race track. Some of your responses are ignorant!
Well then, I guess we should just ignore the problem then. Yep! That's a good excuse to use right there. "We are just too busy!"
How about you try talking with actual LEO and finding out what the problem is, where it is, and what THEY think needs to be done to fix it. Going to a "citizen's academy" isn't going to fix squat!
This is just ignorant! So then Mr. Iknoweverything.... I guess people moving from side roads like Chancellors or First Colony are screwed then huh? The only thing they can do is make a RIGHT TURN into the next shopping center huh?
Now, think about how ridiculous this statement is and get back to me
There are plenty of places for LEO to camp out and catch people. They never seem to have a problem doing it for running radar! One good example is the service road behind Chipotle. They could camp right there and ticket those who use that service road to evade the signal light at Chancellors. How about the service road behind the Wawa for those who use that route to do the same?
Plenty of places to enforce the law!
Well then, I guess we should just ignore the problem then. Yep! That's a good excuse to use right there. "We are just too busy!"
How about you try talking with actual LEO and finding out what the problem is, where it is, and what THEY think needs to be done to fix it. Going to a "citizen's academy" isn't going to fix squat!
This is just ignorant! So then Mr. Iknoweverything.... I guess people moving from side roads like Chancellors or First Colony are screwed then huh? The only thing they can do is make a RIGHT TURN into the next shopping center huh?
Now, think about how ridiculous this statement is and get back to me
There are plenty of places for LEO to camp out and catch people. They never seem to have a problem doing it for running radar! One good example is the service road behind Chipotle. They could camp right there and ticket those who use that service road to evade the signal light at Chancellors. How about the service road behind the Wawa for those who use that route to do the same?
Plenty of places to enforce the law!
glhs837
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Reading comprehension...
If runnign radar is their prime objective (as discussed.. yet missed by you.. in previous posts) then I said they can run it during those times and also look for other violations.
And who is conflating now? Like I said above, I drive that route every damn day (many times a day) and have seen maybe 1 or 2 times where a LEO has had someone pulled over during rush hour! I think you might have enforcement and accident response mixed up
Ever aimed a camera or otehr thing at moving things and try and se other stuff besides keeping on target? I have, and I'm here to tellya, you can keep the target on, of you can look for other stuff, but you aint really doing both. See my answer to Bernie below for more on why even if you could do both, it wouldnt matter.
Be realistic, you cant get out of anywhere unless you do use that as a merge. And people NOT using it to speed match traffic is one of the problems, although an annoyance rather than a danger, really.
Which brings me to my point, unless you are in traffic, it's pretty hard to say whos actually using the lane right and not, becuase to judge that, you really need to see them bypass a lot of turn chances, leave, and then move to reenter. The only ones they usually get are the blatant ones who bypass in parking lots. Lots of them use it to advance, then cut back in before the parking lot. WE all see them, but you can only really see that from in traffic. And if you are a cop embedded in the flow, you would slow things down chasing that guy. Only way is a teo car pinch, one to spot, another ahead to motion the offender out of traffic and keep him there unitl you arrive.
I guess you don't really grasp the concept of a citizens academy. Who do you think you are talking to in the law enforcement citizens academy. Firemen? The purpose of the academy is to bring in officers from each division so they can educate the public on what their goals, capabilities, obstacles and needs are. THIS is where you talk to the law enforcement officers.
I can tell you from doing this rather than sitting here complaining about what they do is one of their biggest hurdles is recruiting. The one fellow said recruiting is tough because of all the negative crap people say when they have no idea what cops do. Hmph.
I'll put up $5 so MG can afford to equip himself and get started.
Somebody else buy him a ticket book.
He'd put his eye out with that.
MiddleGround
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Here is to hoping that all of the above get T-boned and flown out. Maybe then you will understand how dangerous these people are instead of making jokes.
Sometimes, people just need to experience the negative before they realize the gravity of a situation. Kinda like children
MiddleGround
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Any update? Although, I'm quite sure your coworker won't admit if they were at fault (racing up the lane) Curious anyways.
There is. But the only update you will get is that you are an #######.
MiddleGround
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So, it was exactly as I said. (T-bone accident from racing up the turn/merge lane)
Hope your work friend is ok