Don't know about BD but if I was on the Jury and they asked a "professional witness" to speculate, id give it little value. The whole idea of having a jury is for the jury to evaluate the "evidence."
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Don't know about BD but if I was on the Jury and they asked a "professional witness" to speculate, id give it little value. The whole idea of having a jury is for the jury to evaluate the "evidence."
Have you ever tapped on a fish tank?
MiddleGround
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black dog
Free America
Yep, I've done jury duty.. And have sat in many courtrooms over the last 25+ years with a sister that did forensics with over 500 murders and untold crime scenes and now teaches forensics at two colleges and a ex BIL that spent his carrier as a Forensic Chemist / Toxicologist and each time professionals used Facts to prove there point.
Both will work as paid professionals for a trial, but both use Facts not their opinions.
The opposing attorneys would eat you up stating Your Opinion..
glhs837
Power with Control
So unless I misinterpreted the way it was related, that's exactly what happened. The car was going SB, wanting to U-turn and go back north and the nice folks going NB, all three lanes, knowing they really had no where to go, all stopped and opened a corridor across all three lanes, open to the turn only lane. Now, given all sedans, the rider might have seen the car coming through that corridor on an intersect course. But with the preponderance of SUVs and trucks, the riders only clue would have been a one car gap between the Good Sam in the lane nearest him. Then SHAZAM, a car appears through what appeared to just be a randon gap in the nearest lane.
So, yes, it's entirely possible that the rider was not going faster than 25mph. Probability? Cant say, but at least 50/50.
And this is the downfall of the Good Sam sort of driver. Like the "Giver" that yields thier ROW to you, throwing traffic into chaos beucase everyone around no has no idea whats supposed to happen, if you cant see the variables, DONT mess with them.
black dog
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It has nothing to do with ego, The facts are the truth.. I would hope that you wouldn't want someone to be found guilty with " Someone's Opinion " of what happened or the Truth.
black dog
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My sister would, she wanted the Molly's to stop humping...
MiddleGround
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So, in other words, unless they were there... even their professional opinion based on years of experience in the particular field holds no weight?? Really??
MiddleGround
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I agree with most of this.
I will say that I would be surprised that a small car like that wouldn't have the turn radius to make a U-turn and NOT have to wander into the turn/merge lane. Unless, that car driver wanted to.
Either way and bottom line... they really need to close down that U-turn area
glhs837
Power with Control
No, his point is that Facts>Opinion.
black dog
Free America
You've gone way off tracks now from the content of the post " His Guess's "
His guess is nothing more than His Guess... It has no foundation nor facts.
MiddleGround
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I need to get jury duty where you all get it. Apparently, NOTHING is left to question where you all serve. All the "facts" are known and everyone involved was present during the event. NOTHING is EVER left to question where someone might need to offer a professional opinion.
MiddleGround
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Not guesses. His OPINION based on years of accident reconstruction experience for LEO.
Anyways, I'm done arguing with you. Hasta..
black dog
Free America
Wow, He did 4 years in reconstruction,. He hasn't yet to get his Journeyman card.
If you would have said, the trooper pulled the accident report and reconstruction paperwork and the conclusion is. He was traveling 50 mph when brakes were applied and hit at 25 mph and we know that because of length of skid marks, weight of motorcycle and rider, impact results .... Yada. Yada... Yada... You would have made a valid point.. but just to state " His Guess " holds no water at all.
black dog
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Hey still hump, turn up the thermostat a touch...
Once again, you are wrong. I am not part of Vrai's inner circle. Yes, we have known each other for many years, but I haven't seen her in quite some time.
As for the rest of your bull####, I don't think I need to address it. Others already have.
Adios!
MiddleGround
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I will take his opinion based on years of experience over a few "internet investigators" and someone who was actually in the accident and has every reason to lie about what they were actually doing at the time of the accident.
However, if you feel that your opinion has more weight, feel free to let us all know what experience you have to even weigh in on the subject. Otherwise, still glad the rider is OK.