Young Virgin Spanking the Infant Jesus.....
- Thread starter nhboy
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b23hqb
Well-Known Member
Way dumb.
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barsook8
Guest
And your point is...? Without context it does appear that your sole purpose in life is to troll and finger poke fellow forum members in the eye. That's too bad 'cause it undermines your cause when you post interesting stuff.
PsyOps
Pixelated
You don't appear to know boy. It's what he does. He's LibertyBeacon/Midnightrider's twin.
Find your target, launch cheap, baseless attacks at them.
I've said this before:
NH just posts random things he finds; he rarely comments on them one way or the other; how you all interpret it is up to you. Why would you blame him for a painting that Max Ernst did back in the '20s?
If you're into art, or even if you struggled to stay awake through it in school like me, you probably know that Ernst was an angry man with a strong hatred of authority. THAT is a worthy discussion - how Ernst expressed this hatred through his art, and the Dada movement in general. But busting on NH for simply posting a fairly well-known painting is boring and beneath most of you.
NH just posts random things he finds; he rarely comments on them one way or the other; how you all interpret it is up to you. Why would you blame him for a painting that Max Ernst did back in the '20s?
If you're into art, or even if you struggled to stay awake through it in school like me, you probably know that Ernst was an angry man with a strong hatred of authority. THAT is a worthy discussion - how Ernst expressed this hatred through his art, and the Dada movement in general. But busting on NH for simply posting a fairly well-known painting is boring and beneath most of you.
onel0126
Bead mumbler
Perhaps you need an art forum then. Because if you believe that he posted that in a religious forum because of his intrigue or appreciation of a piece of art, then you must believe Hillary Clinton has dresses in her closet.
In fact, I'll start:
Many creative people are anti-authority and want to poke conventionalists in the eye. This is true now and it was true back when Uggg got pissed at his tribe leader and graffitied on the cave walls. Anything they perceive as the "norm", they want to rail against it. To me it's just immature bull#### due to arrested development, but it has a large impact on our society because for some reason artists - actors, musicians, visual artists, etc - are revered by the masses and they have a large voice.
The psychology behind it, I believe, is that people want to see themselves as "unique" and "original"; "free thinking". They reject what conventional society dictates to become some rebel without a cause. Unfortunately, and this is one of my favorite phrases, they are unique and original just like everybody else. So it should amuse us, not piss us off, that in their fervor to be different they just end up changing sheep herds. That's pretty funny when you think about it.
Many creative people are anti-authority and want to poke conventionalists in the eye. This is true now and it was true back when Uggg got pissed at his tribe leader and graffitied on the cave walls. Anything they perceive as the "norm", they want to rail against it. To me it's just immature bull#### due to arrested development, but it has a large impact on our society because for some reason artists - actors, musicians, visual artists, etc - are revered by the masses and they have a large voice.
The psychology behind it, I believe, is that people want to see themselves as "unique" and "original"; "free thinking". They reject what conventional society dictates to become some rebel without a cause. Unfortunately, and this is one of my favorite phrases, they are unique and original just like everybody else. So it should amuse us, not piss us off, that in their fervor to be different they just end up changing sheep herds. That's pretty funny when you think about it.
This piece of art is very much about religion and the connection is worth discussing in the Religion forum. Doesn't it interest you at all how artists and other avant garde types come to their views?
onel0126
Bead mumbler
Religious art is spectacular. Have visited museums and churches all over the world to view it. But crucifixes in bottles of urine for example is not religious art.
As to the posting of the BVM spanking Jesus, the intent by the OP was not to start a dialogue on art appreciation. To me, it's about intent.
I cannot speak to his intent because I don't even know him. Neither do you, that I'm aware of.
The reaction you are having is the exact same one that Ernst got when he painted it - blasphemy, outrage, offended, blah blah blah. So perhaps his intent was to see if we were more sophisticated critical thinkers than they were 90 years ago.
Religion and art have always had a strong relationship in society. I think it's worth discussing.
onel0126
Bead mumbler
Actually, I'm neither outraged or offended. I'm not Muslim.
terbear1225
Well-Known Member
personally, I don't care for the piece. Nothing to do with content, more with execution.
I am not particularly well versed on the topic but aren't there parts of the bible that reference Jesus' childhood and the fact that he wasn't necessarily "saintly" as a child?
I am not particularly well versed on the topic but aren't there parts of the bible that reference Jesus' childhood and the fact that he wasn't necessarily "saintly" as a child?
I find your motivation, suspicious........
PsyOps
Pixelated
But you’re not really discussing it; you’re just saying we need to discuss it. I discussed it a very succinct way – I think it’s dumb to depict the mother Mary spanking Jesus. In biblical terms, it’s not even remotely realistic. The only thing I can take from it is it was meant to be provocative; to anger Christians; in the same manner as I see what Al Sharpton does when so-called 'racial incidents' happen. Find something to stir people up.
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
I really live deep in your head. You seriously have a problem. I know you don't want me to start make cheap baseless attacks like you just did in this post. You seem to be inviting me to go after you, and in the religion forum no less.
I am going to give you one last pass, but if you want a feud I will oblige. How about instead you spare us all the trouble
Having said that, why would Mary spanking Jesus be unrealistic? I assume Mary loved Jesus...
Proverbs 13:24
Whoever spares the rod hates their children,
but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them