Your terms are acceptable, Neil.

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
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Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Not that I really care, but most "singers" lose their singing voice as they age and adapt their style to match. How does one make money on that, if you royally sucked when you were young and had better vocal control? Where do you go from there?

Ask Johnny cash. He was making records and big bucks long after he couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, and he never was that great to begin with. If not for Luther Perkins he would have starved, and that goes for his daughter too.
 

Crabcake42

Active Member
Spotify showing signs of cracking, this week expect artists and the public to keep the pressure on!

 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Spotify Takes New Action In Response To Left-Wing Outrage Over Joe Rogan: Report


“We have had rules in place for many years but admittedly, we haven’t been transparent around the policies that guide our content more broadly. This, in turn, led to questions around their application to serious issues including COVID-19,” CEO Daniel Ek wrote on Sunday. “Based on the feedback over the last several weeks, it’s become clear to me that we have an obligation to do more to provide balance and access to widely-accepted information from the medical and scientific communities guiding us through this unprecedented time. These issues are incredibly complex.”

Ek highlighted the following moves that Spotify will take [emphasis original]:


  • Today we are publishing our long-standing Platform Rules. These policies were developed by our internal team in concert with a number of outside experts and are updated regularly to reflect the changing safety landscape. These are rules of the road to guide all of our creators—from those we work with exclusively to those whose work is shared across multiple platforms. You can now find them on our newsroom, and they’ll live permanently on the main Spotify website. They are being localized into various languages to help our users understand how Spotify assesses all content on our platform.
  • We are working to add a content advisory to any podcast episode that includes a discussion about COVID-19. This advisory will direct listeners to our dedicated COVID-19 Hub, a resource that provides easy access to data-driven facts, up-to-date information as shared by scientists, physicians, academics and public health authorities around the world, as well as links to trusted sources. This new effort to combat misinformation will roll out to countries around the world in the coming days. To our knowledge, this content advisory is the first of its kind by a major podcast platform.
  • We will also begin testing ways to highlight our Platform Rules in our creator and publisher tools to raise awareness around what’s acceptable and help creators understand their accountability for the content they post on our platform. This is in addition to the terms that creators and publishers agree to governing their use of our services.


Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration has also pushed for social media companies to take action against Rogan as Surgeon General Vivek Murthy advocated for during an MSNBC appearance last week.
 

Grumpy

Well-Known Member
Spotify showing signs of cracking, this week expect artists and the public to keep the pressure on!

 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
Neil Young Radio back on SiriusXM, according to an e-mail I just received. Might be time for some of you snowflakes to cancel SiriusXM.

Hear exclusive insights from the rock legend, rare tracks & more
Neil Young Radio, the SiriusXM channel presenting the entire musical world of Neil Young, is back. Tune in on the SXM App now through February 25 and on Channel 27 through February 3 for songs and rarities from throughout Young's extensive catalog, plus celebrity guest DJ sets, live tracks, and stories about his early years, process, and collaborations — including an exclusive track-by-track trip through the new Neil Young & Crazy Horse album, Barn — all in his own words.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Neil Young Radio back on SiriusXM, according to an e-mail I just received. Might be time for some of you snowflakes to cancel SiriusXM.

Yeah it’s on there… Almost no one is listening and there are plenty of better channels.
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
None of it should be banned. If you don't like it, don't listen. The ones you don't like aren't irrelevant to everyone. They all have their fan base.

I just don't like the characterization of anything being "banned" here. Nothing is being "banned"; Neil and others have asked to not do business with a particular outlet any longer. They have complied - voluntarily as near as I can tell. I know that Neil did sell off the rights to much of his catalog in the last few years. I don't know what the legal arrangements there were - there are a couple of different types of rights in the music publishing business. But one can assume if that if Neil asked, and Spotify complied, he has the right to have asked. I have no idea if Spotify had an obligation to comply under these agreements, but comply they did.

Everyone has stated the obvious: the typical Spotify consumer has no idea who Neil Young is, so the reality is that this is an ego stroke with little effect on reality. It's what Neil does, he's highly political. Same with Joni and Nils. I guaran-damn-tee you that Taylor Swift will never ask to be removed from Spotify because her typical audience has embraced streaming services and without streaming probably wouldn't have as much exposure. Taylor might be a bad example, now that I think of it, because she has actually been around a while by musician standards. But you get the idea.

But I otherwise agree with you as far as taste in music: there is room for everyone in the marketplace. As I have always said, there are only two genres of music: good music and bad music. I'd like to think that bad music is universally identifiable, but I realize there is some subjectivity there.

Except for Yoko Ono. She is universally bad.
 

mitzi

Well-Known Member
I just don't like the characterization of anything being "banned" here. Nothing is being "banned"; Neil and others have asked to not do business with a particular outlet any longer. They have complied - voluntarily as near as I can tell. I know that Neil did sell off the rights to much of his catalog in the last few years. I don't know what the legal arrangements there were - there are a couple of different types of rights in the music publishing business. But one can assume if that if Neil asked, and Spotify complied, he has the right to have asked. I have no idea if Spotify had an obligation to comply under these agreements, but comply they did.

Everyone has stated the obvious: the typical Spotify consumer has no idea who Neil Young is, so the reality is that this is an ego stroke with little effect on reality. It's what Neil does, he's highly political. Same with Joni and Nils. I guaran-damn-tee you that Taylor Swift will never ask to be removed from Spotify because her typical audience has embraced streaming services and without streaming probably wouldn't have as much exposure. Taylor might be a bad example, now that I think of it, because she has actually been around a while by musician standards. But you get the idea.

But I otherwise agree with you as far as taste in music: there is room for everyone in the marketplace. As I have always said, there are only two genres of music: good music and bad music. I'd like to think that bad music is universally identifiable, but I realize there is some subjectivity there.

Except for Yoko Ono. She is universally bad.

Didn't Taylor Swift have a beef with Spotify at one time? I can't remember what it was, I'll have to look for it.

Nothing is being "banned"; Neil and others have asked to not do business with a particular outlet any longer.

That's what kills me. Some articles act like he wants to ban or censor Joe Rogan. That's not what happened.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
She did but she just shook it off.

Have you ever heard her sing and think, damn she's got a great set of pipes?
Nope, she half talks through her songs, and on her best day she sounds like your average high school age singer in the school play - if that.
She's pretty and sings catchy tunes, but she has very little singing talent.
 
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