St Mary's can't find teachers?

beerlover

New Member
Filling teaching positions seems like a bad idea to me. I'm also sick of the b*tching in general about how underpaid teachers are. $42K for a start is not underpaid. And public school teaching is an EASY job.
 

beerlover

New Member
...WE as people need to change these appropriation laws and get the children new schools and NOT Wildewood Condos! New roads anyone?

Did we forget this country is ran by the people, for the people?

Open your eyes a little wider - this country is run by corporations and special interests at the EXPENSE of the people. You are speaking of days long gone.
 

LateApex

New Member
Filling teaching positions seems like a bad idea to me. I'm also sick of the b*tching in general about how underpaid teachers are. $42K for a start is not underpaid. And public school teaching is an EASY job.

Saying it's an easy job may upset some of the teachers on this board.

I don't think down here starting out they get 42k, I could be wrong.

Teaching isn't rocket science - agreed - but I know it's an awful lot of work.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to know that our children are getting all the attention they can get.

I would like to know that the teachers are taking the time to make sure the students are learning and not just grading the students work just to get the job done...
 

foodcritic

New Member
Please show me some kind of reference where this is stated.

Until then - you're just speaking out of your buttocks...


‘‘We are a school system interested in adding diversity and being culturally proficient,” so that teachers reflect the diversity of the student population, said Deborah Dennie, recruitment specialist for St. Mary’s public schools.

In the 2006-2007 school year, 25.6 percent of students were minorities compared with only about 6.4 percent of teachers. Those numbers haven’t changed much since.


This certainly sounds to me that they are not interested in white teachers. They want diversity. If you are going to Jamaica I have to assume that you are not looking at white teachers there. I don't know the exact percentage but I would have to guess 95% of Jamaicans are black.

Once again it doesn't matter how qualified someone is but on the color of their skin. And I have to also agree with the person who said $42,000 was a decent salary to start. Sheriff officers, I believe, don't even start at that.
 

LateApex

New Member
:yeahthat:

Charles County is in a shortage of teachers, in general, and $42k is great pay for a anyone ripe out of college.

St Mary's Count != Charles County...

This article is about St Mary's County...

Actually I just found that starting is 41k.. Whether all teachers get this I don't know.

Doesn't sound too bad though...
 

nachomama

All Up In Your Grill
Saying it's an easy job may upset some of the teachers on this board.

I don't think down here starting out they get 42k, I could be wrong.

Teaching isn't rocket science - agreed - but I know it's an awful lot of work.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to know that our children are getting all the attention they can get.

I would like to know that the teachers are taking the time to make sure the students are learning and not just grading the students work just to get the job done...


http://www.smcps.k12.md.us/offices/fs/docs/Salary Schedules/TeachSch2007-08-09.xls

I know that teachers have a very demanding and often unappreciated job, but then again, where else could they go to work making that kind of money right out of college, working 10 months out of a year?

I know a few teachers who thought the grass was greener on the other side, and took jobs with contractors because the money was so good. They were back in the classroom within 2 years - because they missed having their summers and holidays off.
 

LateApex

New Member
‘‘We are a school system interested in adding diversity and being culturally proficient,” so that teachers reflect the diversity of the student population, said Deborah Dennie, recruitment specialist for St. Mary’s public schools.

In the 2006-2007 school year, 25.6 percent of students were minorities compared with only about 6.4 percent of teachers. Those numbers haven’t changed much since.


This certainly sounds to me that they are not interested in white teachers. They want diversity. If you are going to Jamaica I have to assume that you are not looking at white teachers there. I don't know the exact percentage but I would have to guess 95% of Jamaicans are black.

Once again it doesn't matter how qualified someone is but on the color of their skin. And I have to also agree with the person who said $42,000 was a decent salary to start. Sheriff officers, I believe, don't even start at that.

Please read the article and try to understand what it is saying.

It seems to me it's trying to find qualified teachers outside of the area because none are flocking to st mary's county to teach.

I don't know about you, but:

_hard to fill positions_

and

_areas hardest to fill_

seems to convey that people around here don't want the job.

Basically they are trying to think outside the box and attract people here - WHOEVER they can find.

Don't you think if we didn't have a shortage here - then these positions wouldn't be hard to fill?

:eyebrow:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
SMCPS starting salary for the 2009 school year with a provisional certificate shows it to be $38,891 for 10 month and $42,879 for 11 month employees.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Please read the article and try to understand what it is saying.

It seems to me it's trying to find qualified teachers outside of the area because none are flocking to st mary's county to teach.

I don't know about you, but:

_hard to fill positions_

and

_areas hardest to fill_

seems to convey that people around here don't want the job.

Basically they are trying to think outside the box and attract people here - WHOEVER they can find.

Don't you think if we didn't have a shortage here - then these positions wouldn't be hard to fill?

:eyebrow:
Reading the "headline" it is clear what is being sought
Qualified minority applicants for math, science sought
 

LateApex

New Member
Reading the "headline" it is clear what is being sought

St. Mary’s turns to Jamaica to help recruit new teachers

Yep it sure does...

Followed by the first sentence:

In an effort to find teachers for hard-to-fill positions, St. Mary’s public school system is extending its search outside of the country’s borders.

It says qualified.

It doesn't say:

"St Mary's County looking to add minorities to bolster it's minority teacher population."

It seems to me they are looking for QUALIFIED teachers...

Not unqualifed let's take the jobs away from the caucasian teachers around here because we are racist and want to stick it to the local teachers...
 

LateApex

New Member
Werd. I had to drop a college math course once because I couldn't understand the teacher's thickly accented Engrish.

Maybe you should have studied a little harder.

I've had many different kinds of college proffs.

I had a chinese lady. Sometimes I had a hard time understanding what she was saying, but you know what, I'd ask her to repeat it.

Better yet... Why didn't you form a study group with other students to help you understand the material.

People who use this excuse to me sound like they just didn't put forth the effort.

Now, younger kids I can understand where they may have a prob.

But, as a college student you should have taken it upon yourself to help you with the material...

They don't hold your hand in college...
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Yep it sure does...

Followed by the first sentence:



It says qualified.

It doesn't say:

"St Mary's County looking to add minorities to bolster it's minority teacher population."

It seems to me they are looking for QUALIFIED teachers...

Not unqualifed let's take the jobs away from the caucasian teachers around here because we are racist and want to stick it to the local teachers...
And what else does the article say?
Drawing from the pool of Jamaican teachers certified as highly qualified aligns with a goal of St. Mary’s schools – increase minority recruitment.
 

chernmax

NOT Politically Correct!!
Please read the article and try to understand what it is saying.

It seems to me it's trying to find qualified teachers outside of the area because none are flocking to st mary's county to teach.

I don't know about you, but:

_hard to fill positions_

and

_areas hardest to fill_

seems to convey that people around here don't want the job.

Basically they are trying to think outside the box and attract people here - WHOEVER they can find.

Don't you think if we didn't have a shortage here - then these positions wouldn't be hard to fill?

:eyebrow:


so that teachers reflect the diversity of the student population

Sounds like they want black teachers also!!!

Does this mean that qualified white teachers who do apply will be rejected by the counties Affirmative Action plan... :coffee:
 
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LateApex

New Member
And what else does the article say?

Yes Ken.

It says a goal.

It doesn't say:

The 'sole purpose.'

It's trying to fill HARD TO FILL positions...

Like I said earlier...

Do you agree that the gist of the article is to find qualified applicants to fill positions that are in dire need?

I don't know about you but it conveys to me that people around here - anywhere around here for that matter aren't beating down the doors to fill these positions.

If these positions weren't hard to fill wouldn't it be reasonable to say that they wouldn't need to go outside of the area to fill them?

I think any reasonable person would agree...

It happens to fulfill two goals filling the position of need and achieving diversity.
 

LateApex

New Member
Does this mean that qualified white teachers who do apply will be rejected by the counties Affirmative Action plan... :coffee:

I think you need to try a little harder...

If you read the article and actually comprehend what you read - your statement above is false.

By stating these positions are hard to fill negates your point of contention.

Now, if it stated that these positions WEREN'T hard to fill, and that there are many many applicants willing to take these jobs, but they aren't filling them because they want to increase diversity then your assertion is valid.
 
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