12-Year-Old Boy Charged in Deaths of Mother, Brother

[Pandora]

You didn't have to put Garbage in there

Maybe so...

 

[LexiGirl75]

You certainly could, but why would you be that stupid?

If you're successful, why literally give it away to the bad part of town?

That's just irrational.

How is that irrational? No one can predict how bad their neighborhood can be. No one knew her plans for the future. In my opinion her plan to take her son to NC to live with his dad showed that she cared about what was becoming of him.

I took offense to Pandora's comment. I don't see a single working mother who is taking care of her family the best that she can as "ghetto garbage".

That woman is me. I am a single working mother of two sons ages 7 and 12 who is taking care of my family the best that I can. I don't live in the best of places and I certainly didn't move from one. In no way am I ghetto garbage so what makes her different from me?

If she was strung out on drugs or on welfare then maybe her statement would be closer to the truth. To me ghetto garbage is someone who doesn't care at all about what's right and does not try to do what is right, but rather sit back and chill and watch things happen.

Just because someone has a child with serious problems (which any parent could have) and happens to live in they are ghetto garbage? I think that was a character judgement that is currently unfounded.

 

[juggy4805]

How is that irrational? No one can predict how bad their neighborhood can be. No one knew her plans for the future. In my opinion her plan to take her son to NC to live with his dad showed that she cared about what was becoming of him.

I took offense to Pandora's comment. I don't see a single working mother who is taking care of her family the best that she can as "ghetto garbage".

That woman is me. I am a single working mother of two sons ages 7 and 12 who is taking care of my family the best that I can. I don't live in the best of places and I certainly didn't move from one. In no way am I ghetto garbage so what makes her different from me?

If she was strung out on drugs or on welfare then maybe her statement would be closer to the truth. To me ghetto garbage is someone who doesn't care at all about what's right and does not try to do what is right, but rather sit back and chill and watch things happen.

Just because someone has a child with serious problems (which any parent could have) and happens to live in they are ghetto garbage? I think that was a character judgement that is currently unfounded.

 

[LexiGirl75]

Put a lid on it juggy.

I don’t even see why you are even offended. So I mentioned “ghetto,” this incident occurred in Forestville, are you familiar with the area where this occurred? It is my idea of a ghetto. So ghetto ghetto ghetto.

My point was that these types of things happen with no regard to social or economic boundaries.

I can't speak for him, but his concern was about the label "ghetto garbage". But, I am asking were you sayiing that the woman and her children were ghetto garbage?

 

[Pandora]

Time out,

I said the family I was referring to in my post where a similar incident happened was NOT ghetto garbage, that they were a well-to-do family. The first article that was posted on the incident did not have all these witness accounts of people stating the boy had a vicious temper.

It is obvious this women had to work in the evening and that the oldest one had to watch the younger one in order for their survival. I understand that. It is sad in the FACT that a child has to watch another child while mommy works, but this is the sign of the times, broken homes, single parents, children watching children and those children having to make adult decisions and play absent parent at home. Not all children are up to handling that responsibility, and in a sense, many grow up way too fast. This isn’t a story of a little gang banger who thinks he is cool offing somebody, but many of those little gang banger are raised by the pack, everyone else BUT a parent.

There is a fine line between sanity and insanity and nobody knows what goes on in people’s heads and makes them tick or blow up and commit an act such as this but it does not know boundaries, it does happen whether it is in the ghetto or in a high class home.

 

[juggy4805]

Time out,

I said the family I was referring to in my post where a similar incident happened was NOT ghetto garbage, that they were a well-to-do family. The first article that was posted on the incident did not have all these witness accounts of people stating the boy had a vicious temper.

It is obvious this women had to work in the evening and that the oldest one had to watch the younger one in order for their survival. I understand that. It is sad in the FACT that a child has to watch another child while mommy works, but this is the sign of the times, broken homes, single parents, children watching children and those children having to make adult decisions and play absent parent at home. Not all children are up to handling that responsibility, and in a sense, many grow up way too fast. This isn’t a story of a little gang banger who thinks he is cool offing somebody, but many of those little gang banger are raised by the pack, everyone else BUT a parent.

There is a fine line between sanity and insanity and nobody knows what goes on in people’s heads and makes them tick or blow up and commit an act such as this but it does not know boundaries, it does happen whether it is in the ghetto or in a high class home.

 

[LexiGirl75]

Time out,

I said the family I was referring to in my post where a similar incident happened was NOT ghetto garbage, that they were a well-to-do family. The first article that was posted on the incident did not have all these witness accounts of people stating the boy had a vicious temper.

It is obvious this women had to work in the evening and that the oldest one had to watch the younger one in order for their survival. I understand that. It is sad in the FACT that a child has to watch another child while mommy works, but this is the sign of the times, broken homes, single parents, children watching children and those children having to make adult decisions and play absent parent at home. Not all children are up to handling that responsibility, and in a sense, many grow up way too fast. This isn’t a story of a little gang banger who thinks he is cool offing somebody, but many of those little gang banger are raised by the pack, everyone else BUT a parent.

There is a fine line between sanity and insanity and nobody knows what goes on in people’s heads and makes them tick or blow up and commit an act such as this but it does not know boundaries, it does happen whether it is in the ghetto or in a high class home.

So, it was an unfounded character judgement. That's all I was asking.

I didn't hear that he was watching his younger brother (which is illegal if for a whole work shift). I am sure she did have a hard time with him and probably could have acted more quickly than she did in getting him help.

But, like someone on tv said it's not about pointing the finger but figuring out what could have been done if the community had given her support.

There is nothing wrong with having good people in the community look out for your children. I encourage it.

 

[mAlice]

Lex, as much as I hate to side with anything Pandora says, you need to go back and read her post in context.

 

[Pandora]

Lex, as much as I hate to side with anything Pandora says, you need to go back and read her post in context.

Oh gawd I bet that was painful for you.

I think a forum member needs to take Elaine out to lunch and let her take her pent up aggressions out on a waitress.

 

[mAlice]

Oh gawd I bet that was painful for you.

I think a forum member needs to take Elaine out to lunch and let her take her pent up aggressions out on a waitress.

I don't have pent up aggressions. They're all out in the open.

 

[BuddyLee]

How would a bad part of town ever come up and become safe if everyone just moves away? Running from this problem will just cause it to spread farther.

Is this your solution?

I bet you'd be the first to stay.

 

[BuddyLee]

How is that irrational?

If you have something and others around you have nothing, what do you think will happen? Will you stick around, obviously not since you moved away yourself.

Still irrational.

No one can predict how bad their neighborhood can be.

You usually can obtain a decent idea if you look around.

No one knew her plans for the future. In my opinion her plan to take her son to NC to live with his dad showed that she cared about what was becoming of him.

I wasn't speaking to this story, only to jugansta.

 

[Steve]

His younger brother was named Mystery Toma. "mystery to ma"?

 

[vraiblonde]

How can you expect, "ghetto garbage" as you so eloquently put it to have any hope with a statement like that?

 

[vraiblonde]

So you can't be successful and live in a bad part of town?

Sure, pal - the ghetto is full of successful people.

 

[vraiblonde]

How would a bad part of town ever come up and become safe if everyone just moves away?

Guess if everyone moved away, it would become pretty safe, wouldn't it?

 

[vraiblonde]

You didn't have to put Garbage in there

Call it what it is.

Are the people in this news story black or something? Is that why everyone is so sensitive about calling them ghetto garbage? Lexi typically doesn't give a #### about whities, but she gets hypersensitive if you call any black person (especially one that slaughters their mother and brother) anything other than "social victim" and "potential upstanding citizen".

 

[vraiblonde]

That woman is me. I am a single working mother of two sons ages 7 and 12 who is taking care of my family the best that I can. I don't live in the best of places and I certainly didn't move from one. In no way am I ghetto garbage so what makes her different from me?

So your son beats people to death?

Do tell.

 

[Larry Gude]

I got three words for yah...

POST

PARTUM

ABORTION

Retain the right to choose whether or not to keep the kid up to 18.


"Sorry, Jr. This isn't working out as I had planned. You're a broken unit and we don't want broken units."

Que blender.

This would do two things; decrease the number of pre-partum abortions as more people would be willing to give it a go knowing there was a fall back plan and two, children would have perhaps a bit more motivation to pick their crpa up and use a civil tone knowing that mom and dad have...a choice.

Oh yeah and thirdly, we could get rid of the broken ones before they turn on yah and wax YOUR azz.

 

[juggy4805]

Call it what it is.

Are the people in this news story black or something? Is that why everyone is so sensitive about calling them ghetto garbage? Lexi typically doesn't give a #### about whities, but she gets hypersensitive if you call any black person (especially one that slaughters their mother and brother) anything other than "social victim" and "potential upstanding citizen".

My reason for making that statement was not about black and white. It was about social status. I am sure all you who disagree with me came from somewhere and that somewhere wasn't always suburban America. Some of you probably lived in the "ghetto" at some point in your life. When or if you were there would you appreciate being called garbage?