$15/hr minimum wage

DaSDGuy

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Rapacious profits to shareholders and their associated multi-million dollar paid CEO's at the expense of those that actually provide the work necessary to make those profits.

Also. You do realize labor is an expense in business accounting, along with a multitude of other expenses, that, after being subtracted from total revenues, leaves profit, or not. It is not profit that pays for wages, it is the wages paid that makes profit. For without labor, there is no profit.
Meanwhile most McDonalds are franchises and not owned by corporate. The franchise owner has a small profit margin that can't absorb the wage increase without either raising prices or cutting other costs. Most of the time the cost that is cut is labor. So 10 people lose their jobs so the other 25 get a raise.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
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Can you point some of those businesses out?

Pick any publicly traded corporation.

Meanwhile most McDonalds are franchises and not owned by corporate. The franchise owner has a small profit margin that can't absorb the wage increase without either raising prices or cutting other costs. Most of the time the cost that is cut is labor. So 10 people lose their jobs so the other 25 get a raise.

True. McDonalds mostly makes it money on its real state holdings and the rent they charge those franchisees. I would bet that many franchise owners pay themselves handsomely, then calculate what can be paid to employees. However I am not arguing the merits of increasing wages. I'm pointing out that many business owners take advantage of the labor force paying as little as they can get away with for their own enrichment. If there is high turnover, so be it to them.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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I don’t know about anyone else but a few business have Expanded their self check out quite a bit. Minimum wage doesn’t mean anything if the jobs disappear.
 

HemiHauler

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Yes. But you as a business owner know to what I am referring. There is a quantitative balance that should occur with employees relative to overall business revenue.
No! The balance is determined by supply and demand. Period. By definition the price of labor will never be higher than the value of the production which can be obtained by the employee.

The minute government sets price floors on labor, the equation no longer works.
 

HemiHauler

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I don’t know about anyone else but a few business have Expanded their self check out quite a bit. Minimum wage doesn’t mean anything if the jobs disappear.
The jobs don’t go away - people are needed to design, build, sell, and maintain the automation equipment.
 
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phreddyp

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For your consideration ...



Rapacious profits to shareholders and their associated multi-million dollar paid CEO's at the expense of those that actually provide the work necessary to make those profits.

Also. You do realize labor is an expense in business accounting, along with a multitude of other expenses, that, after being subtracted from total revenues, leaves profit, or not. It is not profit that pays for wages, it is the wages paid that makes profit. For without labor, there is no profi
For your consideration ...



Rapacious profits to shareholders and their associated multi-million dollar paid CEO's at the expense of those that actually provide the work necessary to make those profits.

Also. You do realize labor is an expense in business accounting, along with a multitude of other expenses, that, after being subtracted from total revenues, leaves profit, or not. It is not profit that pays for wages, it is the wages paid that makes profit. For without labor, there is no profit.
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Bare-ya-cuda

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Don’t see any automobile manufacturing concerns either, yet cars superseded horse and buggies, the Amish/Mennonite community notwithstanding.
I am sure the folks working the register at your local lowes or Walmart are packing their bags now to move where the automation equipment is designed and built.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
For your consideration ...



Rapacious profits to shareholders and their associated multi-million dollar paid CEO's at the expense of those that actually provide the work necessary to make those profits.

Also. You do realize labor is an expense in business accounting, along with a multitude of other expenses, that, after being subtracted from total revenues, leaves profit, or not. It is not profit that pays for wages, it is the wages paid that makes profit. For without labor, there is no profit.
Please explain to the masses your extensive business experience and how businesses going away makes the world a better place and how the average person survives comrade!
 

HemiHauler

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I am sure the folks working the register at your local lowes or Walmart are packing their bags now to move where the automation equipment is designed and built.
People migrate all the time for opportunities. Like ALL THE TIME.

I guarantee you are not from here - a come downer. What brought you here? I left 30 some odd years ago because opportunities for what I wanted to do were limited.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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People migrate all the time for opportunities. Like ALL THE TIME.

I guarantee you are not from here - a come downer. What brought you here? I left 30 some odd years ago because opportunities for what I wanted to do were limited.
I agree people move all the time, and you are correct I am not from here. The point I am trying to make is that people working the registers that minimum wage isn’t enough to support a family just cant just up and move to another city.
 

HemiHauler

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I agree people move all the time, and you are correct I am not from here. The point I am trying to make is that people working the registers that minimum wage isn’t enough to support a family just cant just up and move to another city.

Clearly, you’ve never been hungry.
 

HemiHauler

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If that played a role Lexington park would be a ghost town
The point you’re missing is that not EVERYONE has to move for new opportunities. Those who are hungry for success will.

You’re also assuming there will be ZERO opportunities locally. Certainly, folks to service all of this automation equipment will need to be somewhat local. They may need to travel several hours away by plane to receive training, but service folks will need to be relatively close. Same with sales forces. Most large firms that manufacture and sell things are organized by sales regions.

Also, we generally talk about these sorts of things IN AGGREGATE not one off situations.
 

vraiblonde

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The jobs don’t go away - people are needed to design, build, sell, and maintain the automation equipment.

Aren't you just the clueless little elitist?

Think about who works at McDonald's for minimum wage. Now tell me how those people are going to design, build, sell, and maintain the automation equipment.

You Marxists have no idea that there's a world outside your little bubble.
 

HemiHauler

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Aren't you just the clueless little elitist?

Think about who works at McDonald's for minimum wage. Now tell me how those people are going to design, build, sell, and maintain the automation equipment.

You Marxists have no idea that there's a world outside your little bubble.

Sit this one out, Pookie. You’re clueless.
 
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