Wow, I'd say that's unbelievable but I'm really not surprised. It's very sad though considering the stupidity of the whole situation. Was there any justice for this family? Is the case over?
Any word on a civil suit against the cop?
5 year old shot and killed by cop
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Any word on a civil suit against the cop?
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
Here is a link to the grandfather describing
what happened as they fished together and they started hearing shots ring out.
Grandfather recalls how grandson died
what happened as they fished together and they started hearing shots ring out.
Grandfather recalls how grandson died
Manslaughter? It seems to me this was a horrible accident. Certainly there should be some civil reprecussions, and at least the Sgt. should not be a Sgt. But jail for two people who went to do their job and made a mistake? How would jailing these people make it better for these parents. Why would the police be called to that scene anyway. It should have been animal control.
I have never been given any training, nor any officer I work with has been given any training in dealing with snakes.
Also, what would the federal prosecutors charge these guys with?
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AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
You are right it should of been animal control, but the cops showed up and tried to handle it themselves. The officer fired his gun up at a ~45 degree angle at a birdhouse where the snake was holed up??? Hello??!!!
Why would anyone with firearms training do that?
Know your target and what is beyond it!!! or you could end up killing a 5 year old boy fishing with his grandfather. Maybe these cops should of had the rest of that sentence added to the rules when they were taught how to handle and shoot firearms.
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
You're right, these officers made a horrible, stupid mistake. In my police training, I am taught to shoot at the target, where ever the target is located. These guys missed, and didn't account for someone being in the backdrop. It doesn't explain what that backdrop was.
But these guys, while negligent, weren't acting in an unreasonable manner. If you know nothing about snakes, and you aren't trained to deal with them, then you make a decision to deal with them. This was a wrong one, and I said the Sgt. shouldn't be a Sgt. But put them in jail? That doesn't make any sense to me. Accidental shootings happen every day, and people don't go to jail.
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
I understand that, if it was for the fear of your life, not to deal with an animal that wasn't hurting anyone.
If you got called out for an injured deer, before you fired would you consider your back ground and what damage you could cause if the round did not stop in the deer or ground below it? I would hope yes!!
This is the same to me as the idiots that fire up in the air on new years, with no consideration of where that round they fired is going to end up.
You're correct in your deer analogy. The difference is they may have felt this snake could become an immenent threat, and they may have assumed their bacdrop was the tree and missed. I don't know all the facts, but the fact that the prosecutor is apprehnensive about charging leads me to believe that there is more to the story.
My point is, these two certainly should be punished. But to send someone to jail for stupidity, is pointless. There isn't any part of the story which would lead me to believe they would hurt someone.
Why is it that people call the police for calls where we are not trained, then expect us to act as we are. I have never in my police career been told what to do if I come upon snake. Until I read this, I may have shot the snake as well. You may be from a rurual place where you know if the snake is dangerous or not.
The first officer there did attempt to use something other than a firearm to stop the threat. However, this failed. Without the proper training, these people were left to make a poor decision.
Shouldn't we then, incarcerate the dispatcher who dispatched these officers rather than animal control? Shouldn't we indict the Mayor who failed to have animal control officers on duty 24/7?
mAlice
professional daydreamer
I agree with Tracy. Cops should be held to the same laws and punishment as everyone else.
The cops were acting in an unreasonable manner.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
Are you kidding? Our jails are full of stupid people. Oops, it was an accident. Too bad, so sad...you broke the law, you're going to jail.
You should be jailed for stupidity.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
I'm not gonna' argue with you. If you don't know "how so", then you shouldn't be a cop. You must be an enormous embarrassment to your fellow police officers.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
I have the same facts that you have. I read the article. I have knowledge of the outcome.
You may not feel you are an embarrasment, but I have no doubt that you are. If I ever need help from a police officer, I can only hope that they don't send you. I'd hate for one of my neighbors to end up dead, and you think that a few years in the can is unreasonable punishment for the offender.
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RadioPatrol
Guest
Your just a biased TOOL ... there are plenty of people sent to jail for stupidity .... killing people with cars in accidents, Opps I did not know that gun was loaded ...
and if these 2 cops are not smart enough to clear the back behind where they are firing then I sure as hell don't want them on the job continuing to carry weapons, they are obviously too stupid to use properly
would I be charged differently if it was me trying to shoot the snake out of the tree and I killed a child instead ........ ####ing A Right I would be ...
I know plenty of people who have been killed in car accidents, but the driver never went to jail. Pay attention retard! There were 7 people killed in a car accident in P.G. County recently. Is that driver in jail? No you moron!Your just a biased TOOL ... there are plenty of people sent to jail for stupidity .... killing people with cars in accidents, Opps I did not know that gun was loaded ...
and if these 2 cops are not smart enough to clear the back behind where they are firing then I sure as hell don't want them on the job continuing to carry weapons, they are obviously too stupid to use properly
would I be charged differently if it was me trying to shoot the snake out of the tree and I killed a child instead ........ ####ing A Right I would be ...
Also stupid, I also know people who have shot other people accidentily and have not been charged! You know not what you speak of jerk!
I never said the cops shouldn't be punished for making a bad decision. I said they shouldn't be prosecuted. Apparently those with all the facts of the case, who aren't cop haters like your self agreed with me. I hope they never sucumbed to the political pressure like prosecutors in P.G. do all the time!
Here is the rest of the story for all you cop haters.
NOBLE —
back porch of a house just up the hill from Tracy's pond.
‘I just feel really bad'
Police had gotten a call of a snake complaint from a woman on Crest Lane, whose 16-year-old daughter saw the snake hanging about 3 feet of its body outside a neighbor's bird house.
The woman, who would not identify herself, told The Oklahoman she called the police station to see if animal control could respond and take care of the snake, which she believed to be a diamondback rattlesnake.
She was told that the city, which lost its only animal control officer recently, would send a police officer over to help.
"This was just a freak and tragic accident,” the woman said, "and I just feel really bad for everyone involved.”
Second shot hit snake
City Manager Bob Wade said rumors of overeager Noble officers are inaccurate. "I was told that they tried several ways to get the snake down, but it was still hissing at them and firmly lodged,” Wade said. "What I was told is that the owner of the home either suggested or agreed that they should go ahead and shoot the snake, and then everything happened from there.”
Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation agents were told that officers decided to shoot the animal after being told there was a field behind them, said Jessica Brown, bureau spokeswoman.
"The first shot grazed the snake, and the second killed it,” Brown said.
Wade said he is 90 percent sure that the same bullet that killed the snake also killed Austin, but due to the trajectory of the shot and the fact that Austin and his grandfather were downhill, investigators have to be 100 percent certain.
That is not true, that would be a traggic accident and the guy MIGHT get a ticket.
