Abortion

[This_person]

So because you couldn't convince some chick to have your baby you feel like you created something special only to have it murdered.

Why don't you send her ass to jail for murder then?

You can't make your argument based upon scientific reasoning, logic, biology, or law - so therefore you take it to a personal attack?

That's pretty sad.

However, I didn't know she was pregnant, didn't know she had an abortion. Whole thing was done without my knowledge, input, etc. And, while it did take me from being ambivalent to actually having an opinion on the issue, it has nothing to do with my arguments.

 

[Xaquin44]

srsly beginning to agree with Xaquinn's post and our pm.

ayup

there's no talking to this one =)

 

[Cowgirl]

When the sperm hits the egg.......it's human...

Well surely I would hope it wouldn't be canine or feline, etc.

 

[Gwydion]

You can't make your argument based upon scientific reasoning, logic, biology, or law - so therefore you take it to a personal attack?

That's pretty sad.

However, I didn't know she was pregnant, didn't know she had an abortion. Whole thing was done without my knowledge, input, etc. And, while it did take me from being ambivalent to actually having an opinion on the issue, it has nothing to do with my arguments.

Nope, I didn't personally attack you. I am helping you. She murdered your son. You are pathetic if you do not press charges on her for voluntary manslaughter of your child.

So, why haven't you done that yet?

 

[Beta84]

When the sperm hits the egg.......it's human...

sperm hit the egg all the time...doesn't mean it makes anything...

 

[This_person]

Your overlook of the word "viable" does not surprise me, even a little.

So, what defines a "viable" brain function?

Let's presume nature is allowed to take it's course, and the baby is not artifically killed. Presuming the baby's brain develops, wouldn't that imply that it was "viable". Or, if something is killed, is it simply that it wasn't "viable"? "Survival of the fittest" - is that it?

 

[This_person]

Nope, I didn't personally attack you. I am helping you. She murdered your son. You are pathetic if you do not press charges on her for voluntary manslaughter of your child.

So, why haven't you done that yet?

Lost your will to make an argument, even another simplistic and inaccurate one like all your others have been, on the subject at hand? My personal situation of 20+ years ago is not what I'm here to discuss.

 

[Beta84]

So, what defines a "viable" brain function?

Let's presume nature is allowed to take it's course, and the baby is not artifically killed. Presuming the baby's brain develops, wouldn't that imply that it was "viable". Or, if something is killed, is it simply that it wasn't "viable"? "Survival of the fittest" - is that it?

adding 1 + 1

 

[toppick08]

sperm hit the egg all the time...doesn't mean it makes anything...

ok.....penetrate the egg........

 

[This_person]

adding 1 + 1

You're doing a good job of making me chuckle in this thread, which is not an easy thing to do.

 

[This_person]

ayup

there's no talking to this one =)

Make an argument instead of tossing in pointless comments. Unless you, too, are unable to handle that.

 

[morningbell]

Right now, while you're all in here.... there is a baby being born over here....


http://forums.somd.com/life-southern-maryland/165980-time-has-come-9.html#post3510774

 

[Gwydion]

Lost your will to make an argument, even another simplistic and inaccurate one like all your others have been, on the subject at hand? My personal situation of 20+ years ago is not what I'm here to discuss.

Yes, it is. Thats the point of this. And, since you are discussing how the fetus is a real living person, and your chick decided to murder your child, I don't understand how she isn't in jail for murder.

Since by law, as you have so clearly put it, the fetus is a living human person, when you end the life of it it is called murder.

And I may not know much about the law, but I am fairly certain that murder is against the law.

So why isn't she in jail?

 

[Beta84]

ok.....penetrate the egg........

That sounds dirty...

You're doing a good job of making me chuckle in this thread, which is not an easy thing to do.

Well it's a very hot topic that makes everyone go crazy and want to tear each other's eyes out...so I tried changing that at least a little bit

 

[Gwydion]

Well it's a very hot topic that makes everyone go crazy and want to tear each other's eyes out...so I tried changing that at least a little bit

I find it disgusting that you would make jokes about this man's child getting murdered.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

So, what defines a "viable" brain function?

Let's presume nature is allowed to take it's course, and the baby is not artifically killed. Presuming the baby's brain develops, wouldn't that imply that it was "viable". Or, if something is killed, is it simply that it wasn't "viable"? "Survival of the fittest" - is that it?

How is this so hard for you?
Besides you being pro-no-choice and all?

It's very simple.
Fetus: If birthed at that moment, could not even live off of machinery, prior to 5 months (earliest).
Actual person: can at least be kept alive by machinery if an organ fails.

 

[Cowgirl]

I find it disgusting that you would make jokes about this man's child getting murdered.

I find it disgusting that you would drag this man's personal life (and such a delicate subject for him I'm sure) into a discussion that can be argued without dragging individuals' lives into it.

 

[Beta84]

I find it disgusting that you would make jokes about this man's child getting murdered.

Wasn't aware I said anything regarding abortion.

 

[This_person]

Yes, it is. Thats the point of this. And, since you are discussing how the fetus is a real living person, and your chick decided to murder your child, I don't understand how she isn't in jail for murder.

Since by law, as you have so clearly put it, the fetus is a living human person, when you end the life of it it is called murder.

And I may not know much about the law, but I am fairly certain that murder is against the law.

So why isn't she in jail?

Actually, no it's not. I'm here to discuss abortion as a general topic, using scientific ideas of life and discussing the obligations mother and father have to their child, not my personal situation.

Did you run out of bad arguments?

 

[puggymom]

Um no. Wait, losing all their rights and freedoms for 9 months? Please. Even if that is your idea of it, then that was something they waved themselves when they decided to spread em.

If the baby will be born with a terminal illness (note: terminal, not *any*), the pregnancy was caused by rape, or the life of the mother will be in danger, -then- abortion is the only thing that should be done.

Otherwise, if you get pregnant, you have the baby.

Sorry to someone would does not want a baby I would view forcing them to those risks as cruel just because they had sex. Kind of like sentencing someone to 9 months in federal prison for smoking a joint. The punishment does not fit the crime unless the person makes the decision to choose to continue a pregnancy and the risks associated with such.