Affirmative Action

[bcp]

How do you know what i've experienced? (you don't)
So..... _ _ _ _.
Here is the thing, you are behind a keyboard being brave=NO NADs in real life. You can't speak on something you know nothing about.
Have a coke and a smile.

cool, this non informative post of yours indicates that even though you refuse to admit it, you do agree that affirmative action is wrong, and is helping people that dont need it at the expense of those that did nothing to deserve it.

its ok, there are many people just like you that are too cowardly to stand up for what you know is right.

 

[Chainsaw Slayer]

I am all for afermative action. We still need more mexicans in the construction business.

 

[bcp]

I am all for afermative action. We still need more mexicans in the construction business.

as long as they are constructing a large fence and working on the southern side of it, Im all for it.

 

[Larry Gude]

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as long as they are constructing a large fence and working on the southern side of it, Im all for it.

'Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man"

George S. Patton

 

[bcp]

'Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man"

George S. Patton

and yet, he still died.

but somehow I dont think he was making reference to securing borders.

 

[bcp]

There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only 100% Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else.

Theodore Roosevelt

 

[Larry Gude]

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and yet, he still died.

but somehow I dont think he was making reference to securing borders.

...point being if you don't address the problems, fixed fortifications arenot going to address them.

 

[Chainsaw Slayer]

...point being if you don't address the problems, fixed fortifications arenot going to address them.

I think an automated turrets placed along the border would address the problem of people sneaking in.

 

[sunmoonstars]

cool, this non informative post of yours indicates that even though you refuse to admit it, you do agree that affirmative action is wrong, and is helping people that dont need it at the expense of those that did nothing to deserve it.

its ok, there are many people just like you that are too cowardly to stand up for what you know is right.

If you look at many of my previous posts you will see that I said That I do agree that there are somethings that do need to be changed about A.A. I'm not afraid to admit that.

 

[sunmoonstars]

What? Nothing intelligent to say, so you denigrate? Typical. Another one with a little bit of education and a supremely inflated self-opinion. When I raise a point that you are unable to dispute the respect goes out the window. Sad.

I refuse to dignify your blabbering gibberish with an answer….

 

[Larry Gude]

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I think an automated turrets placed along the border would address the problem of people sneaking in.

...great. Land of the free. Home of the brave.

Think JOBS. Think national ID. Think administrative control. Think taxes and immigration fees.

 

[donbarzini]

I refuse to dignify your blabbering gibberish with an answer….

Okay then young one. Why don't you go back to the kiddie table while the adults continue this conversation. 147 posts and already in fight club? Hmmmm.........

 

[sunmoonstars]

Okay then young one. Why don't you go back to the kiddie table while the adults continue this conversation. 147 posts and already in fight club? Hmmmm.........

Was that supposed to be an insult?
I'M SORRY.
I MISSED IT.
An adult would not sit on a forum and cry and kick and scream about why they want this President and not that one.
An adult would keep on keeping on and work through the hard times because hard times don’t last forever.
And adult would recognize everyone’s differences and appreciate them and try to gain knowledge from it to make themselves a better person.
An adult would get their frackin’ thumb out of their mouth, strap up their boots and keep walking with American pride regardless if they agree with the decisions of the government and be man (or woman) enough to stand behind it.
Do I need to keep on telling you what you need to do??
Because that’s what I’ve been doing for 8 years, taking it and letting the situation make me a better person not a bitter person.
Take notes, we are never to old to learn.

 

[This_person]

Ok, back on topic then...
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thank you for proving my point

I think it still needs to be in place, changed a bit though..
Well I don't make the laws and I like White Males...soo........

The "changed a bit" that is required, as Larry says, is removal of the inherent racism and discrimination that it is.

 

[This_person]

...great. Land of the free. Home of the brave.

Think JOBS. Think national ID. Think administrative control. Think taxes and immigration fees.

Jobs where? We have jobs, that's a big reason they come here. You're against having the employers help weed them out or be held responsible for hiring illegals, so I'm not getting the "jobs" idea.

However, a national ID that would require a certificate of live birth record would solve this and maybe one other problem

Taxes varied based upon citizenship? Immigration fees only discourage people from following the law. Severe punishment of illegals would work better.

 

[donbarzini]

Was that supposed to be an insult?
I'M SORRY.
I MISSED IT.
An adult would not sit on a forum and cry and kick and scream about why they want this President and not that one.
An adult would keep on keeping on and work through the hard times because hard times don’t last forever.
And adult would recognize everyone’s differences and appreciate them and try to gain knowledge from it to make themselves a better person.
An adult would get their frackin’ thumb out of their mouth, strap up their boots and keep walking with American pride regardless if they agree with the decisions of the government and be man (or woman) enough to stand behind it.
Do I need to keep on telling you what you need to do??
Because that’s what I’ve been doing for 8 years, taking it and letting the situation make me a better person not a bitter person.
Take notes, we are never to old to learn.

Hey numbnuts! Read post #19

 

[Larry Gude]

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Jobs where? We have jobs, that's a big reason they come here. You're against having the employers help weed them out or be held responsible for hiring illegals, so I'm not getting the "jobs" idea.

However, a national ID that would require a certificate of live birth record would solve this and maybe one other problem

Taxes varied based upon citizenship? Immigration fees only discourage people from following the law. Severe punishment of illegals would work better.

I'm against making people agents of the federal government in order to keep politicians from making tough choices like raising taxes and controlling the borders.

I am all for reasonable compliance like checking a national ID and reporting wages.

The taxes I am suggesting would follow some sort of fine imposed on illegals when they are accounted for.

Economic pressure is how to control and manage the problem because economics is the root cause.

 

[FiredUp]

Get Rid Of It! Do The Math!

I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE ACTING LIKE I OWE THEM SOMETHING. I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INJUSTICE THAT WAS DONE TO BLACK PEOPLE.
AND I DOUBT THAT MOST OF THEM NOW IN THE WORKFORCE WERE EVEN AROUND FOR ANY OF IT.
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE PUT A TIME LIMIT AND DONE THE MATH TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THEY WERE PAID UP.

 

[This_person]

I'm against making people agents of the federal government in order to keep politicians from making tough choices like raising taxes and controlling the borders.

I'm not sure how verifying status against a national database is controlling the borders, but you say below that you're for checking a national ID (although, you'll be accused - not by me, but by idiots - of turning the country into Nazi Germany.... "papaz, papaz pleeeeze")

I am all for reasonable compliance like checking a national ID and reporting wages.

The taxes I am suggesting would follow some sort of fine imposed on illegals when they are accounted for.

Economic pressure is how to control and manage the problem because economics is the root cause.

Gotcha, and agree with these.

 

[Larry Gude]

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I'm not sure how verifying status against a national database is controlling the borders,

...if law enforcement, nationwide, has a national security function of and companies have a means to focus on compliance then there is pressure on illegals to...comply.

It's not 'papers' it's a national ID card. Just a card. Get one or pay a fine and, ultimately, get thrown out for not complying.

No need for fences. No need for storm trooper tactics. Just a damn card.