Allah Had No Son

[Marie]

Your pastor had this tract? It wasn't laid out in public for everyone to read was it?

I'd be concerned, if my Pastor was promoting hate.

Actually he's not my pastor, but a pastor friend!
Where's the hate in telling the truth? I see love for others making them aware. It takes a lot of love to tell someone the truth rather than lie or keep silent.

 

[tommyjones]

I'm not saying the bulk of them are intolerant or not "good". However, al Queda has been in my backyard - flying planes into my military complex and one of my major cities, and I say here totally that they are wrong.If you can see that, can't you see that by merely saying killing is wrong, religious leaders are saying blowing abortion clinics up is wrong?

i can, but i'm not the one on here claiming htat all muslims are trying to blow up all other humanity, OR that christians dont act in exactly the same way, doing the same disservice to their god in blowing up people they believe aren't living by god's word.

 

[tommyjones]

Actually he's not my pastor, but a pastor friend!
Where's the hate in telling the truth? I see love for others making them aware. It takes a lot of love to tell someone the truth rather than lie or keep silent.

well, the truth is that you use religon as an excuse for your bigotry. Love ya

 

[tommyjones]

While "religious" is not the same as "Christian" (since most religions don't believe in killing innocent babies), just being against killing could be more than enough. That doesn't require religion.The fact that you equate pro-life and Christian is only partly right - most Christians are pro-life. However, a Christian is also pro-life for the people in the clinic that work there, passing by.... Christians are against murder. Rank it up as one of the top ten things we believe in.here's one

funny how ALL those people in the link got the wrong message and believed they were justly doing gods work by shooting, blowing up, and fire bombing the people other than babies they are supposed to be prolife for....

 

[Marie]

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yeah I guess .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% suicide bombers make the whole religion invalid.

You're smarter than that T_p.

and historicly I'd wager I could find all sorts of christian missteps that killed far more -coughinquisitioncough-
-coughcolonizationofsouthandcentralandnorthamericacough-
-coughabortionclinicbombingscough-

Well while I getting everyone in a twist heres the difference not an excuse.
In one religion you have a so called Holly book that teaches hate and violence and to kill everyone other than there own kind.

On the other you have a period of time where one group used the name of christianity and violence to promote there own selfish interest but there is nothing in the Bible that teaches hating others but loving them as yourself.
Its more loving to prevent harm than ignoring it!

 

[tommyjones]

Well while I getting everyone in a twist heres the difference not an excuse.
In one religion you have a so called Holly book that teaches hate and violence and to kill everyone other than there own kind.

On the other you have a period of time where one group used the name of christianity and violence to promote there own selfish interest but there is nothing in the Bible that teaches hating others but loving them as yourself.
Its more loving to prevent harm than ignoring it!

and how do you think those christians justified their hate in the past?


thats right, they used the bible....

 

[Kain99]

and how do you think those christians justified their hate in the past?


thats right, they used the bible....

So true....

 

[This_person]

i can, but i'm not the one on here claiming htat all muslims are trying to blow up all other humanity, OR that christians dont act in exactly the same way, doing the same disservice to their god in blowing up people they believe aren't living by god's word.

I don't know who's saying all Muslims act that way. Never been MY point. My claim is that a very small number of radical fanatics are doing it, with no condemnation (publicly) from Islamic leaders. Radical, fanatic (and morally wrong) idiots blow up buildings that intentionally kill babies in the name of their religion. Christian leaders denounce abortion clinic bombings.

 

[Marie]

If the animosity between christians and muslims that people seem to think there is actually existed, we'd all be dead.
.

Its not just Christians and Muslims. Its Muslims and everyone else, everyone else is consider and infedel and to be killed unless theres more of them then you than you can coexsits until your no longer in danger.

See what the Quran has to say.

The Qur'an tells muslims to kill and go to war to fight for Islam: Quran, chapters (Surahs) 9:5; 2:191; 2:193; 3:118; 4:75,76; 5:33, 8:12; 8:65; 9:73,123; 33:60-62.

• <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Fight for Allah: "And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers, (Quran 2:191). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Muslims are to battle for Allah: "Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil's strategy is ever weak," (Quran 4:76). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Kill those against Islam: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter," (Quran 5:33). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Beheading: "When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. 13That is because they opposed Allah and His messenger. Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, (for him) lo! Allah is severe in punishment," (Quran 8:12). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Allah urges war: "O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand," (Quran 8:65). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Slay non-muslims: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful," (Quran 9:5). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Allah urges war: "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination," (Quran 9:73). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Allah urges war: "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)," (Quran 9:123). <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Allah urges killing: "...the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist... 61Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering. 62(Such has been) the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah, (Quran 33:60-62).<LI style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Beheading: "Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens..." (Quran 47:4).
• Allah loves those who fight for him. "Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure," (Quran 61:4).

As you can see, the Qur'an definitely teaches that it's people are to fight for the cause of Islam. This list of verses is important because they are within the holy book of Islam. What are we to conclude if a Muslim or to take the Quran seriously? Is he not obligated to slay non-Muslims, to go to war, to kill those against Islam, etc.? Isn't this what the verses are teaching? Yes, they are and this is the source of Islamic Terrorism.

 

[toppick08]

and how do you think those christians justified their hate in the past?


thats right, they used the bible....

More Christians have had their blood shed than any "religious" group in history.........where is the love........from "others".

 

[This_person]

funny how ALL those people in the link got the wrong message and believed they were justly doing gods work by shooting, blowing up, and fire bombing the people other than babies they are supposed to be prolife for....

Just like it's funny how ALL those people that flew planes into buildings, blew up embassies, bombed bars, blew up a good part of Spain, beheaded so many (on video, nonetheless), raped an pillaged innocents - all in the name of Al'lah - got it wrong. The difference still being that none of this is silently viewed by Christian leadership, and is by Muslim leadership (as far as I can tell).

 

[Marie]

Wow, now you're getting you "facts" from hate filled comic books? Do you know anything about Jack Chick and the hatred he spews?

No please tell, as his tracts have been in circulation since the 70's and I never heard anything bad about him or them?
But I also went out to other source to validate what was stated in them was truthfull.

 

[itsbob]

More Christians have had their blood shed than any "religious" group in history.........where is the love........from "others".

Most of them lost their lives to other 'christians' because they didn't believe in the RIGHT christianity..

bottom line, more people have lost/ given their lives in the name of God (their God, not one specifically) than ANY other cause known to man..

The plague killed less people..

 

[JPC sr]

The big pic.

Hi All,
While visiting my pastor friend the other day I read this tract on his table I found it quite interesting and thought you might too!

Allah Had No Son


I had no Idea that Allah worshipped the moon.
The Cult of the Moon God

These are just Christian trash sites that unjustly push bigotry against Islam.

Those messages certainly do not represent what Jesus Christ taught us about loving thy enemies.

 

[JPC sr]

The big pic.

Hate the sin, HELP the sinner.

OMG, T_p has posted some thing smart and charitable.

I am amazed.

So now I will use that saying myself and I will post it in my Maxims of my website.

Cheers to T_p and that inspired saying.

 

[This_person]

OMG, T_p has posted some thing smart and charitable. I am amazed.

I have been trying to help you for months, I'm not sure why you'd be amazed (unless you're a VERY slow learner).

 

[Kain99]

No please tell, as his tracts have been in circulation since the 70's and I never heard anything bad about him or them?
But I also went out to other source to validate what was stated in them was truthfull.

Type his name in google.... Your eyes will bleed reading all of the trash about him!

 

[bcp]

well to be perfectly honest, if al queda were in my backyard, I wouldn't put up a huge sign that says they blow goats on my window. They wouldn't stop me, however, from being a good tolerant person.

you are only tolerant to those that think like you do.

that has been shown here.

I on the other hand am tolerant to all, do as you please, just dont try to make me do it with you, or accept what you do as a suitable way to conduct my life.

Muslims are fine. Christians are fine (even most catholics), heathens are fine.
( I do have to draw the line at the Jews and midgets though)

all have good, and all have bad.

 

[This_person]

(I do have to draw the line at the Jews and midgets though)

And the Dutch!

 

[desertrat]

And the Dutch!