Am I the only one not over reacting?

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
What was the question? I’m a bit addled. Flush after a good night at the poker table but still...
 

Monello

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We were so busy tonight, absolutely crazy! Over 340 dinners!
Our post dinner poker game was very lucrative too. #WinWin
Back in the day the church cornered the market on bingo. Times have changed.
 

FED_UP

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There is TP in California Giant 4 pk, two limit, there was about 20 before I got home and they have a lot of singles.
 

stgislander

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@frequentflier, @vraiblonde and all other small business owners here:
I was able to sit in on a nationwide phone call this afternoon with the POTUS to Small Business Owners with the head of the SBA, and I think the Secretary of Labor (?) Anyway it was off the record, but was being recorded, so possibly there is a transcript of the call somewhere. It only lasted about 10-15 minutes total. Trump expressed his and his administrations' total support of small business owners.

Go to the White House website or the SBA website for Maryland and check out ALL KINDS of relief for small business owners. Yes, it will be a hardship, but there is a LOT of extra help this time around. Not just SBA loans - even some SBA loan forgiveness, there will be dollar for dollar tax credits for business owners - a LOT of help. Per POTUS and my own employers - NO OTHER adminstration has supported the SBOs like this one has.

I hope you can find some relief through the SBA. :huggy:
Thanks Bann. Gilligan's already started the paperwork.
 

vraiblonde

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Go to the White House website or the SBA website for Maryland and check out ALL KINDS of relief for small business owners. Yes, it will be a hardship, but there is a LOT of extra help this time around. Not just SBA loans - even some SBA loan forgiveness, there will be dollar for dollar tax credits for business owners - a LOT of help. Per POTUS and my own employers - NO OTHER adminstration has supported the SBOs like this one has.

I hope you can find some relief through the SBA. :huggy:

I checked it out and none of it pertains to us as an S Corp unless I want to take out a low interest loan and then figure out how to pay it back. We make our money from advertising, and I've had two sponsors already cancel their ads because they're closing their doors. No doubt more will follow.

We'll probably end up shutting down. We have minimal expenses aside from payroll, but it's unlikely we'll be able to meet them this month. Oh well. It's been a good run.
 

vraiblonde

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Permanently, or just until you can sustain again?

Once it's gone, it's gone.

ALL small businesses will be affected by this and many will close permanently. Only large corporations can sustain indefinite closure.

Great job, government!

We're going to try and hang in there but it's not looking good. If they don't lift this lockdown soon our economy will be permanently destroyed and there will be no coming back for America. That's what people don't seem to understand.
 

Bann

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Once it's gone, it's gone.

ALL small businesses will be affected by this and many will close permanently. Only large corporations can sustain indefinite closure.

Great job, government!

We're going to try and hang in there but it's not looking good. If they don't lift this lockdown soon our economy will be permanently destroyed and there will be no coming back for America. That's what people don't seem to understand.
Can you raise subscription costs? I can pay more monthly. Willingly.
 

Reason

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The country who got this right is Taiwan. They screwed up during SARS, and took that as a lesson. This time they locked everything down IMMEDIATELY and so far have reported ony 2 deaths out of 153 cases. 28 have already recovered.
 

vraiblonde

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The forums have always been a loss leader and labor of love. More content and a community feature rather than an income generator.

The banners you see advertising local businesses has always been our bread and butter, along with the classifieds. Then Facebook, and Google, and Amazon, and Zillow, and Craigslist, and Indeed, and the other big tech companies came along and now small business in all industries are on the ropes.

Even @frequentflier - before all she had to worry about was PetSmart; now she has Amazon and Chewy and a dozen other giants trying to run her off. We try to offer something that the anonymous .coms can't, but people don't seem to care. This is what they want now.

I'm kind of pissing and moaning about it, but not really. It's the world we live in and now our government pretty much dealt the death blow in its handling of this virus crap. People like me and FF aren't big enough political donators and we don't have elite lobbyists pleading our case. The government is not going to bail us out like they will the big corporations (who can afford to take temporary losses).

And then, to top it off, they wiped out our retirement accounts. :lol:

But every loss is an opportunity to regroup and reinvent. :yay:

We'll see what happens in the next month or so....
 

vraiblonde

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It's disheartening and if I allow it just a tiny bit terrifying. This is not the way I want to live.

Completely agree. I think we'll be seeing a dramatic increase in suicides as people become socially isolated and have their income taken away.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen government do.
 

Hank

my war
The forums have always been a loss leader and labor of love. More content and a community feature rather than an income generator.

The banners you see advertising local businesses has always been our bread and butter, along with the classifieds. Then Facebook, and Google, and Amazon, and Zillow, and Craigslist, and Indeed, and the other big tech companies came along and now small business in all industries are on the ropes.

Even @frequentflier - before all she had to worry about was PetSmart; now she has Amazon and Chewy and a dozen other giants trying to run her off. We try to offer something that the anonymous .coms can't, but people don't seem to care. This is what they want now.

I'm kind of pissing and moaning about it, but not really. It's the world we live in and now our government pretty much dealt the death blow in its handling of this virus crap. People like me and FF aren't big enough political donators and we don't have elite lobbyists pleading our case. The government is not going to bail us out like they will the big corporations (who can afford to take temporary losses).

And then, to top it off, they wiped out our retirement accounts. :lol:

But every loss is an opportunity to regroup and reinvent. :yay:

We'll see what happens in the next month or so....

Yeah, I love how the "relief" is, here take another loan out....
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
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If there was some way we - as an online community could help - I would love to and would be first to volunteer help. I just don't know off the top of my head, so I can't suggest.

I am not kidding.
 

mitzi

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I hope not! We have to figure something out or an alternative private FB group, something. I don't want to lose touch with a lot of people on here.
 

Bann

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Yeah, I love how the "relief" is, here take another loan out....
WEll it is -but at the same time - it is set up for helping the business owners to pay that money out to the employees, and those were going to be credited back to the employers in the forms of dollar for dollar tax credits or some other way. My brain is cramping today, I've had a lot going on. But POTUS is working with Congress to try and shore up the SBOs where no administration ever has in the past.

I didn't know what type of business SOMD was - I know an employer who is incorporated as an LLC, I think and these things will help them, they think.

Hank, are you an independent contractor?
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

We'll probably end up shutting down. We have minimal expenses aside from payroll, but it's unlikely we'll be able to meet them this month. Oh well. It's been a good run.

Rather than shut down, why not sell to someone with the means to keep it going? Someone that can ride this thing out?
 

vraiblonde

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Rather than shut down, why not sell to someone with the means to keep it going? Someone that can ride this thing out?

We'd love to do that if there were anyone with those means. Local media entities are in the same boat, and big tech buys other big guys, then puts little guys like us out of business.
 
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