Athletes and the law thread

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Skins are talking with him.
The test starts now for McCloughen. Avoiding this, trading the #5 for more picks OR making sure it goes for an OUTSTANDING young lineman and not a WR or D lineman.

Suh looks like a FABULOUS free agent because he's in his absolute prime and is simply an overwhelming player and the money is there; SOMEONE is going to pay him $100 mil so, he is 'market' priced. There is no other player available who will instantly make a bad team's defense clearly better. There is no QB that will have as much impact on a bad team because they rely too much on a good O line and skill people. There is no skill player, not a Dez or Peterson or anyone, who can make a team better by himself. Suh makes the Redskins defense above average right here, right now. He is THE free agent since perhaps Reggie White.

He is, obviously, a terrible choice if you are trying to build a TEAM but he is everything you look for if you want sizzle and attention, our MO for the last 20 years. The only people who could get him cheap are someone he wants to join to be part of a Super bowl. That ain't us so, it will be the full $100 mil and who knows what else.
 

SG_Player1974

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The test starts now for McCloughen. Avoiding this, trading the #5 for more picks OR making sure it goes for an OUTSTANDING young lineman and not a WR or D lineman.

Suh looks like a FABULOUS free agent because he's in his absolute prime and is simply an overwhelming player and the money is there; SOMEONE is going to pay him $100 mil so, he is 'market' priced. There is no other player available who will instantly make a bad team's defense clearly better. There is no QB that will have as much impact on a bad team because they rely too much on a good O line and skill people. There is no skill player, not a Dez or Peterson or anyone, who can make a team better by himself. Suh makes the Redskins defense above average right here, right now. He is THE free agent since perhaps Reggie White.

He is, obviously, a terrible choice if you are trying to build a TEAM but he is everything you look for if you want sizzle and attention, our MO for the last 20 years. The only people who could get him cheap are someone he wants to join to be part of a Super bowl. That ain't us so, it will be the full $100 mil and who knows what else.
Sorry Larry but I think you are putting Suh on too large of a pedestal. He is no where near as good a player as JJ Watt. Suh has averaged like 7 sacks per year. He has 1 interception in his career and has only averaged less than 35 total tackles per year. For an inside lineman those are no the best numbers.

Sure he was double teamed a lot but players demanding 100-mil should be showing better performance than that. I am a Lions fan but, I never bought into the Suh phenomenon. To me, he was just an average lineman. He did his job and helped the team but I do not think he is as big a player as you and others are making him out to be.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Sorry Larry but I think you are putting Suh on too large of a pedestal. He is no where near as good a player as JJ Watt. Suh has averaged like 7 sacks per year. He has 1 interception in his career and has only averaged less than 35 total tackles per year. For an inside lineman those are no the best numbers.

Sure he was double teamed a lot but players demanding 100-mil should be showing better performance than that. I am a Lions fan but, I never bought into the Suh phenomenon. To me, he was just an average lineman. He did his job and helped the team but I do not think he is as big a player as you and others are making him out to be.
You take JJ, I'll take Suh and we'll see where things stand over the next, what, 3 years? JJ, in my view, is on the verge of that sad spot where pa player has been playing WAY up there and physical breakdown starts. I agree, right now, Watt is better. Two, 3 years down the road, I think JJ will be breaking down. Brutal game and Suh is built like a tank.

Also, his numbers as an interior lineman are just fine. Ends are the sack/interception highlight real players. Not the grunts inside. Suh can't play end and JJ's numbers collapse if he plays tackle.

I, personally, don't want him on my team in any event because he's not professional enough, lack of self control on the field.
 

Monello

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Raven's Pierce no longer in the driver seat

And he's no longer a raven.

The Baltimore Ravens released running back Bernard Pierce on Wednesday, hours after he was charged with drunken driving.

Pierce had been driving 55 mph in a 30 mph zone, and that Pierce failed a series of field sobriety tests after he was stopped.

Pierce is charged with driving under the influence of alcohol, driving while impaired by alcohol and two additional speeding offenses.
fast and furious
 

Monello

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Rapist Darren Sharper faces long prison term

Sharper went club-hopping with two female tourists and took them to his hotel room on the Las Vegas Strip, where he drugged and sexually assaulted them while they were unconscious.

He had been sought on a warrant in Nevada, but he had been jailed since Feb. 27, 2014, in Los Angeles, where he had been due for a preliminary hearing Friday after pleading not guilty to drugging and raping two women there in 2013.

The New Orleans charges allege that he sexually assaulted three women in 2013. The Arizona charges allege that he drugged three women and sexually assaulted two of them in November 2013 in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe.

He is expected to plead guilty there Tuesday to one felony charge of attempted sexual assault, with the expectation that he'll face between 38 months and eight years in prison, Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson told The Associated Press. He had previously been charged in the state with two counts of felony sexual assault, each carrying a possible 10 years to life.

don't do the crime
 

Monello

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Update - 9 years in the slammer for Sharper

Pled to multiple rape charges.

Former NFL star Darren Sharper pleaded no contest Monday to drugging and raping two women in Los Angeles as part of a broader plea deal in four states that will send him to federal prison for nine years.

Sharper, 39, acknowledged the crimes in Los Angeles Superior Court after pleading guilty by video link to sexual assault in Arizona.
 

Monello

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Lawrence Phillips

This guy showed glimpses of his real nature in college. He dragged his girlfriend around by the hair. His coach enabled his violent behavior.

Phillips was arrested for assaulting his ex-girlfriend, Kate McEwen and was subsequently suspended by coach Tom Osborne. The case became a source of controversy and media attention, with the perception arising that Osborne was coddling a star player by not kicking Phillips off the team permanently. Osborne walked out on a press conference when asked "If one of your players had roughed up a member of your family, would you have reinstated that player?" Outraged Nebraska faculty proposed that any student convicted of a violent crime be prohibited from representing the university on the football field. Osborne defended the decision, saying that abandoning Phillips might do more harm than good, stating the best way to help Phillips was within the structured environment of the football program. Osborne reinstated Phillips for the Iowa State game
Then the sport team owner/managers overlook character flaws when a person is capable of playing. Good on the teams that declined to draft this guy.

Phillips was drafted sixth overall in the 1996 NFL Draft by the St. Louis Rams despite his considerable character issues; several teams with higher picks let it be known that they passed on him due to his off-the-field troubles.
So his life spirals out of control. He's out of football but not done wrecking havoc on society.

On August 21, 2005, Phillips was arrested for assault after allegedly driving a car into three teenagers, following a dispute with the teens during a pick-up football game in Los Angeles, California. At the time of the arrest, Phillips was also wanted by the San Diego (California) police in connection with two alleged domestic-abuse incidents involving a former girlfriend, who claimed that Phillips had choked her to the point of unconsciousness. In addition, the Los Angeles Police Department was seeking Phillips in connection with another allegation of domestic abuse that had occurred in Los Angeles.

In March, 2006, Phillips was ordered to stand trial on charges of felony assault with a deadly weapon (car), stemming from the August 21, 2005, incident. On October 10, 2006, he was found guilty of seven counts. On October 3, 2008, he was sentenced to 10 years in a California state prison.

While serving that sentence, Philips was convicted in August 2009 for the assault on his former girlfriend on seven counts, including assault with great bodily injury, false imprisonment, making a criminal threat, and auto theft. On December 18, 2009, Phillips was sentenced to 25 years in prison on the 2009 convictions, to run consecutive to the 2008 sentence (which was reduced to just under 7 years), for a combined term of more than 31 years.

Phillips was admitted to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation on October 16, 2008 and was incarcerated at Kern Valley State Prison. Under California law, since his crimes harmed other persons, he must serve at least 85 percent of his sentence before being eligible for time off. He will not be eligible for release for 26 years – when he will be 57 years old.
And while in prison he creates his ultimate masterpiece.
Former NFL RB Lawrence Phillips suspected of killing prison cellmate
Larry needs a new cellmate

I'm sure Larry is just some misunderstood youth that needs a little love and maybe some midnight basketball to get his life back on track.

Honestly the signs where all there. People chose to ignore those signs since he had some potential as a ball player. If they took young Mr. Phillips out back and let him do the Spandau ballet there would be no great loss and an end to his mayhem.
 

Monello

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Rough offseason for Alabama football team

4 arrested in last 2 months. Roll tide.

Alabama senior cornerback Cyrus Jones was arrested late Tuesday night and charged with third-degree domestic violence criminal mischief and third-degree domestic violence harassment, according to police records.

Jones is the fourth Alabama player arrested since late March.

Safety Geno Smith was arrested and charged with driving under the influence. Defensive tackle Jonathan Taylor was booked on domestic violence charges. Running back Tyren Jones was charged with possession of marijuana.

Taylor and Jones were both dismissed from the team.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_cornerback_cyrus_jones_2.html
 

Monello

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Warren Sapp hits women

Sapp claims he din do nuffin.

The Clark County District Attorney's Office told the Las Vegas Sun newspaper the charges stemmed from an April 28 fight between Sapp and his girlfriend of five years, Chalyce Moore.

Moore told police Sapp bit her finger and stepped on her face over an argument that started at the pool area of the M Resort Spa Casino.

Sapp pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of soliciting a prostitute and assault at a Phoenix hotel the morning after the Super Bowl in February.

Sapp was in Phoenix to cover the event as an analyst for the NFL Network when he was arrested following an apparent dispute over money with two women. He was fired by the network after the incident.
sappy warren
 

Misfit

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