Best reason for the holiday season
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Xaquin44
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Only you could say that, my friendI guess cars were around long before their inventor?
that comment makes no sense within the context of the discussion.
The festivals that eventually became christmas were around long before 'christ'.
cars were not around before cars.
This_person
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Lighten up, it was a joke.
This_person
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How much money did they make 1500 years ago on the commercialization of Christmas?
Or closer to September.
The exact date of the birth of Y'shua is not known, nor does it matter. The celebration of the birth of the Savior is the reason for Christmas. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors from hell.
Same goes for Easter. It does not matter when exactly it happened or exactly where Golgotha was or the tomb and garden or where Jesus ascended into heaven. What matters is that those events did happen.
I don't revere a manger. I revere the Lord Jesus that laid in one. I don't revere a cross or tomb. I revere the Lord Jesus that hung on one for my sins. I revere the Lord Jesus that stepped out of a tomb resurrected from the dead as a promise of eternal life for me. I revere the Lord Jesus who is in heaven as my advocate.
Xaquin44
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(even though the concept was around before christians and hell)
but don't let that fact get in the way!
fredcaudle
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If someone had a "concept"... doesn't make it a believer's concept. This is the same foolish argument about halloween. People say it was a pagan holiday to worship demons and such... ok... is that what you do???? Those who believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior celebrate the birth, ministry, and resurrection of Jesus Christ - who cares what the world wants it to be or call it or even what they "once called it"?
fredcaudle
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Ever read the Bible?
Ever read history books? His birth is told in both places, and the dating is able to be determined within 3 - 4 years of accuracy. I think history even shows this by using BC and AD (at least before the politically correct revisionist started teaching).
Xaquin44
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meh.
If I had been following the son of god I could date his birthday to the hour.
What were his followers excuses?
fredcaudle
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Their excuses were non-believing men and women like you that even what they said is discounted because they "followed" him.
Can't have it both ways... they documented much about Him that you have dismissed, why desire to know His birthdate from them? So you can dismiss this too?
Xaquin44
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all I'm saying is that if I was following the son of god for (x) years, I'd get to know him.
fredcaudle
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we do... it is a great thing.
This_person
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The concept of celebrating the birth of the Christ-child was around before Christians?
Xaquin44
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.... the celebration held around the winter solstice ....
Xaquin44
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I meant like .... "so Jesus, whens your birthday? We know you like bread and fish, so me and Paul were going to go in from William and Sonoma or something .... "
Or "Hey Lamb of Hosts, whats your favorite color? Your robe looks like it needs some patching so we figured maybe a new one .... you're an 'L' right?"
etc. etc.
This_person
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Okay, you meant the concept of a celebration. Sure, no one disputes people celebrated before Christ. Winter, summer, spring, and fall. The timing had already been agreed to as immaterial, I thought you were going with the concept of Christmas, not the concept of a winter celebration.
This_person
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More than likely they knew all of that. When writing a book like the Bible, though, it's not like a Kitty Kelly autobiography. It's a little more serious than that. It doesn't tell-all that you want to know, it's a tell-all of what you NEED to know.