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Xaquin44

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Link? I haven't seen where anyone except your buddy atheists have any like of hearing your opinions.

I like hearing his opinions.

but you have me (and others) on ignore so you won't see it.

It's very easy to argue when you don't listen to the other side.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Okay, so clearly we need to do this one leg at a time, as you demonstrated above.

Initial statement: "the ocean is purple"

Proof: none

Is the statement false? No, the statement is unproven.

Test: Check the color of the ocean

Result: Water is clear, appears primarily blue and sometimes green due to other effects.

Conclusion: The ocean is not purple, it is clear, with a visual appearance of other colors at different times.

Initial hypothesis - false.


Initial statement: There is a diety.

Is the statement false? No, it is unproven

May I interject that the ocean can appear purple at sunset as it can appear red, orange, and virtually any visible color that the surface may reflect.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
I like hearing his opinions.

but you have me (and others) on ignore so you won't see it.

It's very easy to argue when you don't listen to the other side.

I see what you post. I choose to ignore what you post.

You obviously don't read well, since one of the conditions of my assertion excluded the likes of you.
 

tommyjones

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I would certainly agree that the evidence exists that humans have grown taller, live longer, etc., etc. Yes, there is evidence to support the hypothesis that mankind has changed over the last few hundred years.

I'll go even further. I can show evidence that tires have changed over the last few decades. They last longer, have changed in average size, thickness, and even in substance. We have a really good idea why that happened, since we humans created tires. We also have a really good idea why the bulk of humans have changed over the last few hundred years, with better food, shelter, medicines, etc.

As you say, though, this has absolutely nothing to do with the initial creation of life. Nor does the change in humans imply any change of form beyond what can be demonstrated with proper nutrition and good drugs. :lol:

I've seen a caterpillar turn into a butterfly, and I've seen a tadpole turn into a frog. That doesn't prove a fish can become a man.

there is direct evidence of evolution in some species, thats a little differnt than seeing a tadpole turn into a from.

Ok, how do you explain things like indigenous peoples in various areas having different physical attributes? For instance at high altitude people are born with larger hearts, and tend to be smaller, people in bright/hot climates have darker skin, while people in cold climates are pale?
If we all came from the same two people, then it seems evolution is at work since that their existance.
 

Xaquin44

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I see what you post. I choose to ignore what you post.

You obviously don't read well, since one of the conditions of my assertion excluded the likes of you.

You don't comprehend very well .... you can't say 'I haven't seen where anyone likes your opinions' and then say 'except your atheist buddies' because they are people who like his opinions.

So unless we somehow don't count as people, your statement is flawed from the start.
 

tommyjones

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I see what you post. I choose to ignore what you post.

You obviously don't read well, since one of the conditions of my assertion excluded the likes of you.

i remember hearing a story about this guy who will try to unite all the world under one religon, anybody rememember his name?
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
So I could say that "There is a zxrtqwer that exists in the world", and this is not false, because it's unproven? This is what I am not understanding.

Why not? People say there are yetis and a creature called big foot. Do they exist? I don't know. I have not seen one, but I have not seen a giant squid in person either. I have seen pictures of the giant squid; I am convinced that giat squid are real. I have seen some evidence that may be real or fabricated of a yeti and big foot, so they remain unproven.

I was brought up to believe in God. I became an atheist as I studied science and then realized that science does not have the answers. I started seeking God. I found Him or He found me.

God has done things in my life. Things that are very much out of the ordinary. God is real. I have faith.

You don't have to believe. If you don't it does not affect me in any way. I am not responsible for your belief or lack of belief in God. I have done what I am do do, proclaim the gospel.
 

tommyjones

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Why not? People say there are yetis and a creature called big foot. Do they exist? I don't know. I have not seen one, but I have not seen a giant squid in person either. I have seen pictures of the giant squid; I am convinced that giat squid are real. I have seen some evidence that may be real or fabricated of a yeti and big foot, so they remain unproven.

I was brought up to believe in God. I became an atheist as I studied science and then realized that science does not have the answers. I started seeking God. I found Him or He found me.

God has done things in my life. Things that are very much out of the ordinary. God is real. I have faith.

You don't have to believe. If you don't it does not affect me in any way. I am not responsible for your belief or lack of belief in God. I have done what I am do do, proclaim the gospel.


and give out red with my mighty MPD's
:jesuslovesmethough:
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Theories aren't "proven". Proofs are for mathematics.

Theories that are proven are Laws. It is not the law of evolution. It is the theory of evolution. If you don't know the difference, then I think your scientific reasoning is in question.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
there is direct evidence of evolution in some species, thats a little differnt than seeing a tadpole turn into a from.

Ok, how do you explain things like indigenous peoples in various areas having different physical attributes? For instance at high altitude people are born with larger hearts, and tend to be smaller, people in bright/hot climates have darker skin, while people in cold climates are pale?
If we all came from the same two people, then it seems evolution is at work since that their existance.
I'll agree that there is strong circumstancial evidence for the environment conditioning humans over a long period of time, and that this conditioning supports the concept of evolution.

Let's see if other things do.

People born in very cold climates have thicker "fur"? Nope.
People born further from the equator have different circadian rythms? Nope.


Two quickies, don't fit the profile. That doesn't mean that the hypothesis is true nor false. It just means we have support, and lack of support.
 

Xaquin44

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I'll agree that there is strong circumstancial evidence for the environment conditioning humans over a long period of time, and that this conditioning supports the concept of evolution.

Let's see if other things do.

People born in very cold climates have thicker "fur"? Nope.
People born further from the equator have different circadian rythms? Nope.


Two quickies, don't fit the profile. That doesn't mean that the hypothesis is true nor false. It just means we have support, and lack of support.

Actually, fur is good to bring up. Do you per say know why we get goosebumps when we're cold?
 
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