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[2ndAmendment]

X, don't even bother. Logic flies in the face of their worldview and intellectual dishonesty is the only way out. It is what it is.

It is you that won't recognize that there is another view that may be right. You are just as rigid in your faith that there is no God, heaven, or hell as Christians are that there is a God, heaven, and hell.

I believe that having faith in God and the Bible is totally logical.

I find it far more logical to believe in creation than in a bunch of stuff got together and then there was this big explosion and then something happened and there was life and humans are evolved from single cell animals. Now believing that really takes faith.

This is the Religion Forum. It is not called the Atheist Forum. Feel free to move on. See how that works?

 

[Xaquin44]

It is you that won't recognize that there is another view that may be right. You are just as rigid in your faith that there is no God, heaven, or hell as Christians are that there is a God, heaven, and hell.

oh, hello pot!

I believe that having faith in God and the Bible is totally logical.

You just don't back it up with anything besides 'Because it's right'.

I find it far more logical to believe in creation than in a bunch of stuff got together and then there was this big explosion and then something happened and there was life and humans are evolved from single cell animals. Now believing that really takes faith.

personally, I don't really believe either .... both take incredible leaps of faith

This is the Religion Forum. It is not called the Atheist Forum. Feel free to move on. See how that works?

would it make you feel better if we were affiliated with a religion that just didn't believe what you do?

same difference.

 

[wxtornado]

I find it far more logical to believe in creation than in a bunch of stuff got together and then there was this big explosion and then something happened and there was life and humans are evolved from single cell animals.

And there you go, tapdancing around the issues again. No surprise there then.

Show me anywhere on the internet where it says humans evolved from a single cell animal. This is the kind of nonsense I would expect from a "christian science" site. I laughed!

 

[toppick08]

And there you go, tapdancing around the issues again. No surprise there then.

Show me anywhere on the internet where it says humans evolved from a single cell animal. This is the kind of nonsense I would expect from a "christian science" site. I laughed!

 

[Xaquin44]

stunning rebuttal!

your debate skills are second to none sir!

 

[toppick08]

stunning rebuttal!

your debate skills are second to none sir!

And Sir, You and all other athiests can't PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG.

 

[wxtornado]

And Sir, You and all other athiests can't PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG.

I laughed again. See the other thead on this

 

[Xaquin44]

And Sir, You and all other athiests can't PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG.

just many of the things in it =)

Ark indeed.

 

[wxtornado]

And Sir, You and all other athiests can't PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG.

Oh by the way. I just wrote a bible called 9284ufgnoff2o, and it's right. When you get a minute, prove that it's wrong, mmmkay?

 

[wxtornado]

Ark indeed.

Oh there's another thread that the creationists won't touch. The mother of all floods!!

 

[toppick08]

Oh by the way. I just wrote a bible called 9284ufgnoff2o, and it's right. When you get a minute, prove that it's wrong, mmmkay?

Don't have to prove anything. The Holy Bible is the Word of your Creator........believe it or not. Ya'll still can't disprove anything it says.

 

[Xaquin44]

Don't have to prove anything. The Holy Bible is the Word of your Creator........believe it or not. Ya'll still can't disprove anything it says.

Ark indeed!

and you can go on saying baseless statements till your keyboard falls apart .... saying something over and over doesn't make it true.

 

[wxtornado]

Don't have to prove anything. The Holy Bible is the Word of your Creator........believe it or not. Ya'll still can't disprove anything it says.

Lol!

The null hypothesis is the default hypothesis. You are committing the logical fallacy of attempting to shift the burden of proof. You are making the positive assertion that your deity exists, so you are the one that must prove that he exists.

Unlike you, we have nothing that we have to prove. All we have to do point to the fact that you refuse to support your assertion with objective evidence, and the fact that you insist on committing a logical fallacy when you are asked to support your position.

Your assertion is meaningless since you have no objective evidence or proof to support your assertion that your deity even exists. Every other creation myth has exactly as much evidence and credibility as yours does. None! If you have anything, anything at all, by all means bring it forward

 

[toppick08]

Lol!

The null hypothesis is the default hypothesis. You are committing the logical fallacy of attempting to shift the burden of proof. You are making the positive assertion that your deity exists, so you are the one that must prove that he exists.

Unlike you, we have nothing that we have to prove. All we have to do point to the fact that you refuse to support your assertion with objective evidence, and the fact that you insist on committing a logical fallacy when you are asked to support your position.

Your assertion is meaningless since you have no objective evidence or proof to support your assertion that your deity even exists. Every other creation myth has exactly as much evidence and credibility as yours does. None! If you have anything, anything at all, by all means bring it forward

The Holy Bible is proof for all. You chose to deny it, that's on you. You still can't prove it wrong so start proving.

 

[Xaquin44]

The Holy Bible is proof for all. You chose to deny it, that's on you. You still can't prove it wrong so start proving.

ARK INDEED!

and The Bible is not 'proof for all' .... You can't write "The ocean is purple" and then say "see! It is written and thus it is true!"

It's still false ....

 

[toppick08]

ARK INDEED!

and The Bible is not 'proof for all' .... You can't write "The ocean is purple" and then say "see! It is written and thus it is true!"

It's still false ....

I don't write anything...........but others have.

 

[Xaquin44]

I don't write anything...........but others have.

.... I ment you as sort of an open thing .... Like 'you' refering to the author, not 'you' refering to toppick.

 

[This_person]

Lol!

The null hypothesis is the default hypothesis. You are committing the logical fallacy of attempting to shift the burden of proof. You are making the positive assertion that your deity exists, so you are the one that must prove that he exists.

You're absolutely correct in this. It is toppick's belief, and for you to reject having no belief to believe in something, it is toppick's burden to provide whatever evidence that is needed to convince you.

However, it doesn't seem as though toppick is trying to convince you. It seems as though you are challenging the assertion of something to believe in.

You've been given the reasons that people have faith. Why do you feel the need to continue to ask the same questions? It's clear that you don't have any faith - that you believe in nothing. Because, if you believed in something, than the null hypothesis of whatever that belief is would be your burden of proof. Proving that nothing exists is pointless. If you have a belief in something, then it gets harder.

To see the reasons why, read the Bible. You can then choose to accept or reject the faith offered. You won't find proof. I can fully promise that. You'll only find reasons to believe.

However, you go after believers like a pitbull on feral cat. What is your need to convert people to lack of a belief system?

 

[wxtornado]

You still can't prove it wrong so start proving.

I don't have to, since I am not the one that is claiming that something exists or that something is true. I already have the default position. And since you have never presented any objective evidence and proof that your deity exists or that the bible is true, the null hypothesis that states that your deity does not exist, and that the bible is a book of myths, remains unchallenged.

 

[This_person]

ARK INDEED!

and The Bible is not 'proof for all' .... You can't write "The ocean is purple" and then say "see! It is written and thus it is true!"

It's still false ....

Well, you can't just say the notion that the ocean is purple is false, either. Should you make that assertion, you've created a whole new problem to solve. You assert the notion false, you must prove it false. You can certainly point out that the proof is insufficient for you, but you cannot assert the opposite is therefore true.

Think Darwin. Evolution is a theory. It is unproven, because there is sufficient doubt as to the theory due to lack of sufficient evidence. That doesn't mean evolution is false - it means it's unproven. Toppick's form of belief may contain insufficient evidence for you to believe, but that doesn't make it false.