Bible contradictions?

[2ndAmendment]

No, You built a strawman and told him going to church didn't make him a christian. He never said going to church made someone a christian.
He said;

which you don't disagree with.

Going to church does not make you, him, or anyone a Christian; it makes you a church goer. Nothing more.

 

[slotted]

Changed my mind. I try very hard not to lie; too hard to keep up with who you told what.

okay

 

[slotted]

Going to church does not make you, him, or anyone a Christian; it makes you a church goer. Nothing more.

Show me where bob said that going to church makes you a x-tian?

 

[2ndAmendment]

No, You built a strawman and told him going to church didn't make him a christian. He never said going to church made someone a christian.
He said;

which you don't disagree with.

He said he went to church on Sunday so it was all good. That is an implication.

I agree with

A Christian shouldn't be recognized by how much money he has given to charity, except the one Christian named Anonymous.

and with

A Christian is who stops in the rain and the cold to help someone change a flat, without expecting nor requiring a thank you.. or drives an hour and half to help a wayward traveller in need, even though the traveller is a perfect stranger.

His definition as a whole does not withstand the test of scripture.

 

[vraiblonde]

Naaah, i was just in a church Sunday, so I'm all good..

 

[2ndAmendment]

Show me where bob said that going to church makes you a x-tian?

Naaah, i was just in a church Sunday, so I'm all good

is an implication that going to church made him good. Implication - Christian - maybe not, but implied.

Look, I know you are here just to cause trouble, so if I don't respond ....

 

[slotted]

He said that in response to

Christians do too, but we admit it and accept God's grace and reconciliation.

He can't accept gawd's grace and reconciliation at church? I don't think he can, but I don't believe in large, invisible jews either.

 

[slotted]

Look, I know you are here just to cause trouble, so if I don't respond ....

Are you omniscient as well now?
How is pointing out what he said causing trouble? Unless you call tearing down your strawman trouble.

 

[2ndAmendment]

He said that in response to

He can't accept gawd's grace and reconciliation at church? I don't think he can, but I don't believe in large, invisible jews either.

Sure he could accept God's grace anywhere. His attitude here and his point of view expressed seem to indicate that he was just a church goer. I don't know for sure what his relationship to Jesus is, but his posts seem to indicate he does not have one.

Are you omniscient as well now?
How is pointing out what he said causing trouble? Unless you call tearing down your strawman trouble.

Certainly not omniscient. Much of your posts have been just derogatory toward Christians. That seems that you are here to ridicule or pick a fight. I choose not to participate in that kind of activity.

 

[slotted]

That seems that you are here to ridicule or pick a fight. I choose not to participate in that kind of activity.

Then don't, WTF is the problem?

 

[2ndAmendment]

Then don't, WTF is the problem?

Sorry, don't understand that. TTFN.

 

[crabcake]

Ugghhhhh I promised myself I wouldn't come back in here, but I couldn't ignore this.

Ah, but going to church does not make you Christian. By your actions you are known. My definition came from the Bible. Your definition of a Christian does not hold to the Biblical standard.

First off, I didn't see anywhere in what you posted/quoted that said to be a Christian, you HAD to attend church.

Secondly, I agree wholeheartedly with Bob's opinion of what a Christian should be. If there is a God, and he'd bannish someone to an eternity in hell for living by those standards and basically being a good person over one who sins repeatedly and just says, "Ooops, sorry God, forgive me" over and over, I wouldn't want to be a part of that "religion" no matter what label you toss on it!

 

[vraiblonde]

I don't believe in large, invisible jews either.

I have some of those in my backyard

 

[slotted]

I have some of those in my backyard

 

[vraiblonde]

What? :shrug:

 

[slotted]

Any takers?

Acts 9:7 - And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

Acts 22:9 - And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

 

[tlatchaw]

That whole post was rambling nonsense, each point of which has already been addressed in this thread. Now you're just being argumentative and combative for sport.

No wonder Crabflake thought that was such a brilliant post.

People on this forum board being argumentative for sport? Oh never!

 

[tlatchaw]

Much of your posts have been just derogatory toward Christians. That seems that you are here to ridicule or pick a fight.

Slotted, this is a fact that is hard to miss. The sign over your av indicates you are a skeptic. What else are you skeptical about? Or is it just Christians?

Do you feel this way about all religions? How about Buddhism or Islam or even Hare Krishna?

Are you a political skeptic? (I'd like to think I am!)

How about science? Do you question the reported research of all scientists or just those that don't agree with your particular views right now?

 

[Tonio]

The sign over your av indicates you are a skeptic.

If Slotted is an athiest, why is he using Buddy Christ from "Dogma" as his av? As funny and irreverent as the movie is, it isn't anti-Christian. I think the movie is pro-faith.

Cardinal Glick (George Carlin): Now we all know how the majority and the media in this country view the Catholic church. They think of us as a passe, archaic institution. People find the Bible obtuse... even hokey. Now in an effort to disprove all that the church has appointed this year as a time of renewal... both of faith and of style. For example, the crucifix. While it has been a time honored symbol of our faith, Holy Mother Church has decided to retire this highly recognizable, yet wholly depressing image of our Lord crucified. Christ didn't come to Earth to give us the willies... He came to help us out. He was a booster. And it is with that take on our Lord in mind that we've come up with a new, more inspiring sigil. So it is with great pleasure that I present you with the first of many revamps the "Catholicism WOW. " campaign will unveil over the next year. I give you... The Buddy Christ. Now that's not the sanctioned term we're using for the symbol, just something we've been kicking around the office, but look at it. Doesn't it... pop? Buddy Christ...

 

[2ndAmendment]

Any takers?

Acts 9:7 - And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

Acts 22:9 - And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

Those quotes are from the King James version which is an Old English translation and a bit less accurate than some of the new translations. In the New American Standard, which is regarded as one of the most accurate modern translations, it says:

Acts 22:9

<sup id="en-NASB-27714">9</sup>"And those who were with me saw the light, to be sure, but did not understand the voice of the One who was speaking to me.

Acts 9 quote from the New American Standard is:

Acts 9:7

<sup id="en-NASB-27224">7</sup>The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one.

The NIV has:

Acts 22:9
<sup id="en-NIV-27701">9</sup>My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me.

Not quite the same confusion, eh? You could hear a voice and not understand it. You really need to check more than one version. The King James is poetic, and because of that, less understandable. Also, knowledge of ancient Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek has increased, so the translations are better. The less accurate areas of the King James, i.e., the verses you quoted and some others like the one that translates "wine skins" as "bottles". None of the confusing passages take anything away from the central fact of the life, death, and resurrection of Y'shua, Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah.