Bible contradictions?

[Goofing_Off]

Yes, Hitler and Christianity against the Jews.. He used religion in his speeches, as a Christian, just as the Muslim Extremists are doing today.. JUST like CC was trying to point out.. nothing more, nothing less. BUT because it was HER, she has to be wrong.. That's 6 MILLION dead Jewish believers worth of Holy War, can you name one more effective then that?? A religius war inasmuch if they denounced their faith they could live.. with a gun pointed to their heads they were asked to denounce Judaism or die.. they died.

Ireland.. one Christian group insisiting they are better Christians then the others..

You have such little knowledge (or a convoluted knowledge) of history that it's sad to read.

 

[dems4me]

Yes, Hitler and Christianity against the Jews.. He used religion in his speeches, as a Christian, just as the Muslim Extremists are doing today.. JUST like CC was trying to point out.. nothing more, nothing less. BUT because it was HER, she has to be wrong.. That's 6 MILLION dead Jewish believers worth of Holy War, can you name one more effective then that?? A religius war inasmuch if they denounced their faith they could live.. with a gun pointed to their heads they were asked to denounce Judaism or die.. they died.

Ireland.. one Christian group insisiting they are better Christians then the others..

I'm Irish and we really are better

 

[2ndAmendment]

Ireland.. one Christian group insisiting they are better Christians then the others..

No. One group for British control and the other against. The delineation is along denominational lines. Neither side is acting as Christians and that is not what the war has been about.

 

[itsbob]

Neither of which was really about religion, Christian or Muslim, but about power, greed, and control. You want to make it religious to prove your point. Not conceded. Never conceded.

You really do have your head in the sand.. people are steered and controlled around the world in the name of this religion or that religion.. Tom Cruise is a good example.. they are pulling his strings like a puppet. Doesn't matter what religion it is.. if you are a TRUE believer a TRUE follower then you'll do what is asked unquestioningly.. Jonestown ring a bell?? Follow and believe without question, you become nothing more then herded sheep.. but you would still be worthy of my pearls..

 

[itsbob]

You have such little knowledge (or a convoluted knowledge) of history that it's sad to read.

So Yoda, teach me you must.. You have no idea, other then what you've been told, so tell me what you've been told.

There really wasn't a Holocaust?? 6 million jews didn't really die? Where did they go? Who killed them? Other Jews? Muslims? Scientogists? Mormons? Do tell me..

 

[2ndAmendment]

You have such little knowledge (or a convoluted knowledge) of history that it's sad to read.

As I see it, he chooses to have faith in the "history" that enforces his point of view regardless of fact. He must stand against God and the Bible because to endorse God and the Bible would contradict his own life. Those that choose not to believe in the Bible are usually doing something in their life that is contrary to God's word.

Christians do too, but we admit it and accept God's grace and reconciliation.

 

[vraiblonde]

You really do have your head in the sand.. people are steered and controlled around the world in the name of this religion or that religion.. Tom Cruise is a good example.. they are pulling his strings like a puppet. Doesn't matter what religion it is.. if you are a TRUE believer a TRUE follower then you'll do what is asked unquestioningly.. Jonestown ring a bell?? Follow and believe without question, you become nothing more then herded sheep.. but you would still be worthy of my pearls..

Is that what you're afraid of? That Pat Robertson is going to declare jihad and Christians around the world will take up arms and start killing everyone?

 

[Goofing_Off]

So Yoda, teach me you must.. You have no idea, other then what you've been told, so tell me what you've been told.

There really wasn't a Holocaust?? 6 million jews didn't really die? Where did they go? Who killed them? Other Jews? Muslims? Scientogists? Mormons? Do tell me..

You have no idea either, other than what you've been told, so what sort of argument is that? Of course there was a Holocaust, but it wasn't built upon Christian supremecy, as you insinuate. It was built upon an ideology that the German people were superior to other peoples, and they were expendable or needed to be exterminated. Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, and a host of other peoples, Christian and non-Christian alike, were slaughtered during the Holocaust. Of course, it would take some reading and some desire to educate oneself to learn that, which doesn't appear to be something you're willing to do.

 

[2ndAmendment]

You really do have your head in the sand.. people are steered and controlled around the world in the name of this religion or that religion.. Tom Cruise is a good example.. they are pulling his strings like a puppet. Doesn't matter what religion it is.. if you are a TRUE believer a TRUE follower then you'll do what is asked unquestioningly.. Jonestown ring a bell?? Follow and believe without question, you become nothing more then herded sheep.. but you would still be worthy of my pearls..

You obviously have no concept about the difference between Christian belief and cults. Cults usually have an authority other than God or they rely on one man to give them god's word and the members are not encouraged to read the Bible because they won't understand.

I have my eyes wide open to the wonder of God and what He has done in my life. Sorry your head is so far somewhere that you are in total darkness.

The difference between you and I is I can accept you want to be in total darkness. You want to convince me to get out of the Light. If you don't like the Bible or God, then why bother with me? Just let me be a "fool".

1 Corinthians 4:9-10

<sup id="en-NASB-28443">9</sup>For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death; because we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.

<sup id="en-NASB-28444">10</sup>We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are prudent in Christ; we are weak, but you are strong; you are distinguished, but we are without honor.

 

[vraiblonde]

If you don't like the Bible or God, then why bother with me? Just let me be a "fool".

Because he has a personal investment in you NOT being a "fool". Safety in numbers, if ya know what I mean.

 

[itsbob]

As I see it, he chooses to have faith in the "history" that enforces his point of view regardless of fact. He must stand against God and the Bible because to endorse God and the Bible would contradict his own life. Those that choose not to believe in the Bible are usually doing something in their life that is contrary to God's word.

Christians do too, but we admit it and accept God's grace and reconciliation.

Naaah, i was just in a church Sunday, so I'm all good.. but what you say does ring true of quite a few people in here.. you see history the way you want to see it so it fits your little perfect world.. well, I for one don't accept much at face value, I think I'm a little too intelligent to go through life with the blinders on and never asking "WHY?" And if i read something, and can interpret it, why should I have someone say, no that's not right, this is what it really means. Unless you were dipping his quill in the ink, I doubt you have a clue what any of them meant to say.

But like you, I have my own definition of a Christian..

A Christian shouldn't be recognizable, other then the good he does for his neighbors.

A Christian shouldn't be recognized by how much money he has given to charity, except the one Christian named Anonymous.

A Christians prayers shouldn't be heard, except for by God, and the four walls of his home.

A Christian is not better then "swine" and would be willing to reach into the muck to pull the swine out.

A Christian is who stops in the rain and the cold to help someone change a flat, without expecting nor requiring a thank you.. or drives an hour and half to help a wayward traveller in need, even though the traveller is a perfect stranger.

But alas.. this person doesn't have to be Christian do they? Muslim kinda fits perfect, so does jewish, or Scientologist.. So should we just say, Human?

 

[itsbob]

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[slotted]

I have my eyes wide open to the wonder of God and what He has done in my life.

This best sums it up.

From http://evangelicalatheist.com/

Human beings don’t see with their eyes. The eyes just collect light. We see with our minds. The brain inverts the image, fills in the blind spots, completes partial patterns, etc. (If you don’t understand what I’m talking about, check http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/.) In fact, all of the senses are mental. The organs are just input devices. If you want to see something badly enough and you can make yourself expect to see it, you can see it. If you can imagine what it feels like to have your energy “centered,” you can feel it. The only difference between an atheist and a mystic is the ability to differentiate between the observed world and the generated world.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Naaah, i was just in a church Sunday, so I'm all good.. but what you say does ring true of quite a few people in here.. you see history the way you want to see it so it fits your little perfect world.. well, I for one don't accept much at face value, I think I'm a little too intelligent to go through life with the blinders on and never asking "WHY?" And if i read something, and can interpret it, why should I have someone say, no that's not right, this is what it really means. Unless you were dipping his quill in the ink, I doubt you have a clue what any of them meant to say.

But like you, I have my own definition of a Christian..

A Christian shouldn't be recognizable, other then the good he does for his neighbors.

A Christian shouldn't be recognized by how much money he has given to charity, except the one Christian named Anonymous.

A Christians prayers shouldn't be heard, except for by God, and the four walls of his home.

A Christian is not better then "swine" and would be willing to reach into the muck to pull the swine out.

A Christian is who stops in the rain and the cold to help someone change a flat, without expecting nor requiring a thank you.. or drives an hour and half to help a wayward traveller in need, even though the traveller is a perfect stranger.

But alas.. this person doesn't have to be Christian do they? Muslim kinda fits perfect, so does jewish, or Scientologist.. So should we just say, Human?

Ah, but going to church does not make you Christian. By your actions you are known. My definition came from the Bible. Your definition of a Christian does not hold to the Biblical standard.

Matthew 5:14-15 Jesus speaking


<sup id="en-NASB-23249">14</sup>"You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden;

<sup id="en-NASB-23250">15</sup>nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.

Matthew 28:18-20

<sup id="en-NASB-24214"> 18</sup>And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

<sup id="en-NASB-24215">19</sup>"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

<sup id="en-NASB-24216">20</sup>teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

James 5:13-16

<sup id="en-NASB-30368">13</sup>Is anyone among you suffering? Then he must pray Is anyone cheerful? He is to sing praises.

<sup id="en-NASB-30369">14</sup>Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;

<sup id="en-NASB-30370">15</sup>and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him.

<sup id="en-NASB-30371">16</sup>Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

 

[2ndAmendment]

This best sums it up.

From http://evangelicalatheist.com/

The converse is true. If you want to be blind to something, you will be.

 

[vraiblonde]

Your definition of a Christian does not hold to the Biblical standard.

You know, Bob, if you hadn't been such an ass, I'd give you a hand with this one. But you're on your own. Find the scripture that supports your definition of a Christian. Because it's in there.

 

[slotted]

The converse is true. If you want to be blind to something, you will be.

Is lying a fruit of the spirit there 2A or did you finally change your mind about ignoring me?

 

[2ndAmendment]

You know, Bob, if you hadn't been such an ass, I'd give you a hand with this one. But you're on your own. Find the scripture that supports your definition of a Christian. Because it's in there.

Are you speaking of this?

Matthew 6:2-4


<sup id="en-NASB-23285">2</sup>"So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

<sup id="en-NASB-23286">3</sup>"But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

<sup id="en-NASB-23287">4</sup>so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

Absolutely true. Notice I didn't refute that part of his definition.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Is lying a fruit of the spirit there 2A or did you finally change your mind about ignoring me?

Changed my mind. I try very hard not to lie; too hard to keep up with who you told what.

And I can choose to ignore you ... or not ... or respond ... or not. I will choose to believe God and the Bible; no choice there.

 

[slotted]

Notice I didn't refute that part of his definition.

No, You built a strawman and told him going to church didn't make him a christian. He never said going to church made someone a christian.
He said;

Naaah, i was just in a church Sunday, so I'm all good.. but what you say does ring true of quite a few people in here.. you see history the way you want to see it so it fits your little perfect world.. well, I for one don't accept much at face value, I think I'm a little too intelligent to go through life with the blinders on and never asking "WHY?" And if i read something, and can interpret it, why should I have someone say, no that's not right, this is what it really means. Unless you were dipping his quill in the ink, I doubt you have a clue what any of them meant to say.

But like you, I have my own definition of a Christian..

A Christian shouldn't be recognizable, other then the good he does for his neighbors.

A Christian shouldn't be recognized by how much money he has given to charity, except the one Christian named Anonymous.

A Christians prayers shouldn't be heard, except for by God, and the four walls of his home.

A Christian is not better then "swine" and would be willing to reach into the muck to pull the swine out.

A Christian is who stops in the rain and the cold to help someone change a flat, without expecting nor requiring a thank you.. or drives an hour and half to help a wayward traveller in need, even though the traveller is a perfect stranger.

But alas.. this person doesn't have to be Christian do they? Muslim kinda fits perfect, so does jewish, or Scientologist.. So should we just say, Human?

which you don't disagree with.