Black History Month 2008.

[Hessian]

Both sets of Grandparents came over in 1920's...

from Germany and thus, I feel like I should apologize:



Dear Britain, France, Belgium, and Luxembourg

I am sorry the Kaiser didn't kick your sorry tea-drinking & crepe eating butts in 1914.

(The Krauts did an excellent job of running their Colonies in Africa: nothing to apologize for there.)

PS: I never apologize to Russia.

Sincerely,
Hessian

 

[Go G-Men]

If the white folks would just apologize for the wrongs done to the black population,

and make ammends - then this kind of stuff would not happen.

Firstly, the retard alert was directed at you and not people who actually suffer from any form of diagnosed retardation. The alert as it pertains to you is dead on..

Secondly, what white folks are you talking about? I am white and I am certain that none of my relatives ever owned slaves...

Dare I say this: Please explain?

 

[Go G-Men]

Firstly, the retard alert was directed at you and not people who actually suffer from any form of diagnosed retardation. The alert as it pertains to you is dead on..

Secondly, what white folks are you talking about? I am white and I am certain that none of my relatives ever owned slaves...

Dare I say this: Please explain?

I would like to apoligize (sp?) to all the forumites for asking JPC to explain... I obviously had a weak moment and because of this I fear you will all suffer...

As such, I am going to ask the Maryland Congress to pass a forumite history month or 2 (not sure yet) as an amends to my insensitivity!!

 

[godsbutterfly]

Firstly, the retard alert was directed at you and not people who actually suffer from any form of diagnosed retardation. The alert as it pertains to you is dead on..

Secondly, what white folks are you talking about? I am white and I am certain that none of my relatives ever owned slaves...

Dare I say this: Please explain?

The explanation will probably leave you more confounded than if you hadn't asked! Lots of luck.

 

[JPC sr]

Deadbeat child support resister.

Firstly, the retard alert was directed at you and not people who actually suffer from any form of diagnosed retardation. The alert as it pertains to you is dead on..

Why is it that you can not see that retarded people are not truly inferior to you or to me or to anyone.

It is an unfortunate condition that the retarded persons can not help.

I would far prefer the company of retarded people rather then being with any self righteous bigot.

Secondly, what white folks are you talking about? I am white and I am certain that none of my relatives ever owned slaves...

Dare I say this: Please explain?

It is the same scenerio as we all helped to put people on the moon. We did not go there ourselves but we take the credit for being a part of it.

The white population world wide helped in creating and maintaining the African slavery and no white is truely innocent of it.

 

[Go G-Men]

Why is it that you can not see that retarded people are not truly inferior to you or to me or to anyone.

It is an unfortunate condition that the retarded persons can not help.

I would far prefer the company of retarded people rather then being with any self righteous bigot.
It is the same scenerio as we all helped to put people on the moon. We did not go there ourselves but we take the credit for being a part of it.

The white population world wide helped in creating and maintaining the African slavery and no white is truely innocent of it.

I would like to, at this time, announce that I wish to make no claims any kind of having anything to do with going to the moon

and












Bringing JPC here to earth..

 

[hvp05]

We need to honor the good parts, and have reminders of the bad parts.

Ignoring it or getting rid of it does not erase it from history. And if we were to ignore or destroy such places, how could we demonstrate to today's children why certain things were wrong?

Bringing JPC here to earth..

He asked for that one.


I feel no need to apologize because my ancestors arrived well after slavery had passed. And if the argument is made that I am benefitting from the residual benefits of slavery... well, so are modern blacks. And all too many of them don't even know or understand their history. But they'll still be first to line up to hear me apologize for it.

 

[flomaster]

I vote for American History Month and leave it at that.

 

[This_person]

I vote for American History Month and leave it at that.

12 months a year. I'm with ya.

 

[godsbutterfly]

I have noticed people mentioning their ancestors arrived as immigrants and in line with that: my Great-Grandparents on one side arrived on a boat from Germany and on the other side they were from Scotland and Sweden. All of them got here after slavery also. I agree that there were many important Historical Events involving Blacks and many Noteworthy Black Inventors, Heroes & more that should be included in American History - it's a shame they were left out in the first place. Why not redo the standard textbooks that are used to teach American History? I doubt if the books in use now have been updated in years anyway.

 

[aps45819]

If the white folks would just apologize for the wrongs done to the black population,

and make ammends - then this kind of stuff would not happen.

I'm sorry you're an idiot

Please ammend that by not being an idiot

 

[aps45819]

I have noticed people mentioning their ancestors arrived as immigrants and in line with that:

My German paternal Grandfather was a merchant marine that jumped ship in Baltimore back in the '20s.
On my mothers side, I can trace my forebears back to the early 1600's in Virginia.

.... and yes, some of them were slave owners.

Don't hold your breath expecting me to apologize for something some guy I never met did a century ago

 

[jazz lady]

The white population world wide helped in creating and maintaining the African slavery and no white is truely innocent of it.

Um, in a word "NO." You need to read up on this subject. The slave trade to America originated with BLACKS selling other BLACKS:

The Atlantic slave trade peaked in the late 18th century, when the largest number of slaves were captured on raiding expeditions into the interior of West Africa. These expeditions were typically carried out by African kingdoms, such as the Oyo empire (Yoruba), Kong Empire, Kingdom of Benin, Kingdom of Fouta Djallon, Kingdom of Fouta Tooro, Kingdom of Koya, Kingdom of Khasso, Kingdom of Kaabu, Fante Confederacy, Ashanti Confederacy and the kingdom of Dahomey. Europeans rarely entered the interior of Africa, due to fear of disease and moreover fierce African resistance. The slaves were brought to coastal outposts where they were traded for goods. The people captured on these expeditions were shipped by European traders to the colonies of the New World. As a result of the War of Spanish Succession, the United Kingdom obtained the monopoly (asiento de negros) of transporting captive Africans to Spanish America. It is estimated that over the centuries, twelve to twenty million people were shipped as slaves from Africa by European traders, of whom some 15 percent died during the terrible voyage, many during the arduous journey through the Middle Passage. The great majority were shipped to the Americas, but some also went to Europe and the south of Africa.

History of slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Slavery existed WAY before the slave trade to America and has continued long past its elimination here. And the slave trade to America is only a small part of what has happened over the years and was mostly carried out by European traders to America. If you read and UNDERSTAND enough of the history, you'll find a lot more groups that can legitimately claim reparations are due to them. If anything, "African-Americans" should be suing folks in Europe or Africa for enslaving their people.

 

[JPC sr]

Deadbeat child support resister.

Um, in a word "NO." You need to read up on this subject. The slave trade to America originated with BLACKS selling other BLACKS:

History of slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Slavery existed WAY before the slave trade to America and has continued long past its elimination here. And the slave trade to America is only a small part of what has happened over the years and was mostly carried out by European traders to America. If you read and UNDERSTAND enough of the history, you'll find a lot more groups that can legitimately claim reparations are due to them. If anything, "African-Americans" should be suing folks in Europe or Africa for enslaving their people.

Just because there were other slaveries in the world - that does not justify the African slavery in America.

And here our African slavery was different in many ways.

In America the slavery was ONLY based on race as it was a racially based debauchery.

And the Americans were well educated and the Americans claimed Christianity as their morality over slavery.

And even if our African slavery in America were equal with all other slaveries then we are still just as guilty and we still have our own duty to apologize and make ammends for our own wrongs.

I say we need to take the moral lead and set a righful example to all others.

 

[Toxick]

Just because there were other slaveries in the world - that does not justify the African slavery in America.

Wow... even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

That's the first thing you've said in a while that didn't make me cringe.





Too bad you had to ruin it, by not shutting up while you were ahead...

And even if our African slavery in America were equal with all other slaveries then we are still just as guilty and we still have our own duty to apologize and make ammends for our own wrongs.

Didn't we already apologize? I'm sure I've heard an idiot or two apologize on behalf of the entire white race. Plus we've been burdening under programs like Affirmative Action and quotas for years.


Furthermore, I don't owe anyone an apology at all. I've never owned a slave, nor to my knowledge have I ever benefitted from slavery in any way. (Not any more than any other individual in our society, including today's black people.)

I don't believe in "Guilt by association", nor sons inheriting the sins of their fathers. Anyone that tells me I owe an apology to black people for slavery can, quite simply, kiss my ####ing ass.

 

[JPC sr]

Deadbeat child support resister.

Furthermore, I don't owe anyone an apology at all. I've never owned a slave, nor to my knowledge have I ever benefitted from slavery in any way. (Not any more than any other individual in our society, including today's black people.)

It is a privlege and an honor to take the heat of a past mistake and if one is truly innocent of wrong then it is a greater honor to do the ammending.

Jesus gave the example of an innocent sheep paying the punishment for others and not His own wrongs.

 

[Toxick]

It is a privlege and an honor to take the heat of a past mistake and if one is truly innocent of wrong then it is a greater honor to do the ammending.

I find more honor in taking heat for the real mistakes that you have made yourself. It's quite ironic, that's complete anathema to everything you stand for. I also find it amusing that your entire agenda revolves around the philosophy of "freedom from responsibility" or that "freedom burdened with responsibility is not really freedom"

... except, of course, for this subject.



Here's an idea for you, if you think it's such an honor to take heat for a mistake that's not yours, why don't you take full personal responsibility for slavery for the rest of us. Do whatever it takes to make amends.

Jesus gave the example of an innocent sheep paying the punishment for others and not His own wrongs.

Don't start that crap with me.

If you want to go down that road, then Jesus already paid the penalty for slavery, and it should all be water under the bridge.

 

[aps45819]

we still have our own duty to apologize and make ammends for our own wrongs.

Ypu're an IDIOT, you don't even know what you're asking for.

amend
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈmend\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French amender, modification of Latin emendare, from e, ex out + menda fault; akin to Latin mendax lying, mendicus beggar, and perhaps to Sanskrit mindā physical defect
Date: 13th century
transitive verb
1: to put right; especially : to make emendations in (as a text)
2 a: to change or modify for the better : improve <amend the situation> b: to alter especially in phraseology; especially : to alter formally by modification, deletion, or addition <amend a constitution>

Since we have outlawed slavery in the United States, we have amended our policy on it.
I think you are refering to extorting money from all the current taxpayers to give to members of one race as reperations for something that they did not experience. Since you don't pay taxes, how much of your earning are you willing to give to somebody that was never a slave to apoligize for slavery?

 

[Hessian]

I have noticed people mentioning their ancestors arrived as immigrants and in line with that: my Great-Grandparents on one side arrived on a boat from Germany and on the other side they were from Scotland and Sweden. All of them got here after slavery also. I agree that there were many important Historical Events involving Blacks and many Noteworthy Black Inventors, Heroes & more that should be included in American History - it's a shame they were left out in the first place. Why not redo the standard textbooks that are used to teach American History? I doubt if the books in use now have been updated in years anyway.

Well,...I have looked over many textbooks: there is intense competition to be as Liberal as possible: They are written by Leftist/marxist profs who try to outdo each other in getting the Pricey contracts from California. Thus: THEY are updated...and they are becoming more & more inaccurate (post-modernism & deconstructionism dominates). Bashing regular, patriotic, traditional history has almost become a formulae for them.

 

[This_person]

It is a privlege and an honor to take the heat of a past mistake and if one is truly innocent of wrong then it is a greater honor to do the ammending.

Jesus gave the example of an innocent sheep paying the punishment for others and not His own wrongs.

Will you acknowledge that we outlawed the importation of slaves?

Will you acknowledge that we then outlawed slavery?

Will you acknowledge that we then passed a large number of anti-discrimination laws?

Will you acknowledge that we then passed laws mandating discrimination against whites in favor of all other races to give a stronger footing to make up for decades and century old wrongs?

If you cannot acknowledge these things, you do not live in a world of reality.

If you do, you will have to then acknowledge that all you ask for (apologies and amends) has already been done.

Which is it? (my guess, you'll either copy this in yellow and say something meaningless, or you'll ignore it all together )