Boy Scouts and Gay Rights Again.........

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
you know, I'd be fine with that .... if the organization was called the straight white scouts of america with no minorities allowed.
Sorry friend, but you DID bring up race, minority or not. See the bold word?
Most of us think of race when minority is mentioned. And I apologize to you for the mental handicap response about you. It is not in my character to EVER ridicule anyone about that. Having said that, the Scouts have stood for being "morally straight" since I can remember, so why should they change their standards just because the world is?:howdy:
 

Xaquin44

New Member
Sorry friend, but you DID bring up race, minority or not. See the bold word?

ok. enough people on this board are struggling with this that I will explain (Christ, some of you people are stupid).

I brought up the 'straight white scouts of america with no minorities allowed' false name because it makes note of multiple types of minorities. The two I alluded to are 'race' and 'sexuality'.

The BSA currently discriminate against homosexuals for no reason.

Most of us think of race when minority is mentioned. And I apologize to you for the mental handicap response about you. It is not in my character to EVER ridicule anyone about that. Having said that, the Scouts have stood for being "morally straight" since I can remember, so why should they change their standards just because the world is?:howdy:[/QUOTE]

You can be a morally straight homosexual. Why should they be discriminated against?
 
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toppick08

Guest
ok. enough people on this board are struggling with this that I will explain (Christ, some of you people are stupid).

I brought up the 'straight white scouts of america with no minorities allowed' false name because it makes note of multiple types of minorities. The two I alluded to are 'race' and 'sexuality'.

The BSA currently discriminate against homosexuals for no reason.

Most of us think of race when minority is mentioned. And I apologize to you for the mental handicap response about you. It is not in my character to EVER ridicule anyone about that. Having said that, the Scouts have stood for being "morally straight" since I can remember, so why should they change their standards just because the world is?:howdy:

You can be a morally straight homosexual. Why should they be discriminated against?[/QUOTE]::otter:

That's why some priests will burn in Hell. :evil:
 
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ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
YOU ItalianScallion said Homosexuality is not a natural act.
YOU were shown where Homosexuality does occur in Nature.
YOU have now introduced God into the argument, which comes from the Old Testament, isnt that convenient?
Maybe I should have been more specific. Not a natural act between humans, OK? Again, If God didn't want animals to do it, He'd destroy them too, but He's very clear on human behavoir. Man & Woman, no other combination.
 

LordStanley

I know nothing
The Scouts have every right to do what they want without local or federal government interfering.

They are a non-profit private corporation and is funded from private donations, membership dues, corporate sponsors, and special events.
 
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toppick08

Guest
well, not all homosexuals are morally upright, but neither are all straight people.

I have no doubt that if there is a hell, then people from both walks of life will burn in it.

No doubt about it.
 

LordStanley

I know nothing
ok. enough people on this board are struggling with this that I will explain (Christ, some of you people are stupid).

I brought up the 'straight white scouts of america with no minorities allowed' false name because it makes note of multiple types of minorities. The two I alluded to are 'race' and 'sexuality'.

The BSA currently discriminate against homosexuals for no reason.

Most of us think of race when minority is mentioned. And I apologize to you for the mental handicap response about you. It is not in my character to EVER ridicule anyone about that. Having said that, the Scouts have stood for being "morally straight" since I can remember, so why should they change their standards just because the world is?:howdy:

You can be a morally straight homosexual. Why should they be discriminated against?[/QUOTE]

Because they think that being homosexual is immoral. Who are you or anyone else to tell them what they think is wrong
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
You can be a morally straight homosexual.
What does that mean? Explain clearly please. To me (from God's point of view, of course), it's an oxymoron. And, by the way, He'll have the last word on this someday so why fight it? What God said won't be changed even if the entire world disagrees with it.
 

Xaquin44

New Member
What does that mean? Explain clearly please. To me (from God's point of view, of course), it's an oxymoron. And, by the way, He'll have the last word on this someday so why fight it? What God said won't be changed even if the entire world disagrees with it.

Oh, I wouldn't know gods point of view any more then you would. I just know it's not 'unnatural'.
 

LordStanley

I know nothing
Oh, I wouldn't know gods point of view any more then you would. I just know it's not 'unnatural'.

But thats your opinion.

And the BSA's opinion is that its unnatural.

If people want to join so bad, and dont like the rules the Boy Scouts have, then they should create thier own organization.

Call it HSA.

The Homosexual Scouts of America
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
Oh, I wouldn't know gods point of view any more then you would. I just know it's not 'unnatural'.
Yes you would know and I gave you God's point of view. It's in Leviticus 20 v 13 but you know that. I just asked you what YOU meant by "morally straight homosexual". Morally straight, to me, means living godly in all areas of life. Homosexual means the opposite as far as sexual relationships go. How can 2 men or 2 women be gay and moral? Would they live together but abstain from their "physical activities"? Would they help the poor then help themselves to each other and that would be OK? That's the contradiction I see.:whistle:
 
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toppick08

Guest
Oh, I wouldn't know gods point of view any more then you would. I just know it's not 'unnatural'.

Read the Ten Commandments. It's all we as humans need to abide by. These Commandments are a litmus test for all people. We all fall short of obeying them, thus this is why Jesus died on the Cross for. To be rededemed......
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
One of these days people will stop worrying about other people's business and mind thier own business. :ohwell:
I live for that day but then what would the evil lawyers all do? And the aclu, and Al & Jesse, and the people on this forum?:lmao: Therein lies the problem. If these people would just leave the scouts alone and start the "HSA", as the previous forumite said, this thread would not be this long.
 

Geek

New Member
:nono::nono::nono: This is a dangerous statement.
Then why did Jesus die, spend 33 years on earth and go thorugh all those teachings if it was JUST about being good to others?????????:pete:

Why? I studied the Bible for over 12 years. I have read it enough times to form an opinion. I think a lot of the Bible is crap. Maybe I have seen this book used to hurt too many people. Fools use it as a club to beat down anyone they are afraid of. They find random, out of context quotes and cling to them as they stand there righteous and smug in their superiority over everyone else. Screw that. I refuse to use Jesus's name to hurt people.

JUST about being good to others???? That is what this life is about. If your religon is about being one of the very few to get a "key" into heaven, then have at it. I don't want in. I will stand outside with my husband and children. I would rather be on fire then be without them. That is why I am ex-Catholic. They lost me. And you're the kind of person that reminds me that I will never go back.
 
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toppick08

Guest
Why? I studied the Bible for over 12 years. I have read it enough times to form an opinion. I think a lot of the Bible is crap. Maybe I have seen this book used to hurt too many people. Fools use it as a club to beat down anyone they are afraid of. They find random, out of context quotes and cling to them as they stand there righteous and smug in their superiority over everyone else. Screw that. I refuse to use Jesus's name to hurt people.

JUST about being good to others???? That is what this life is about. If your religon is about being one of the very few to get a "key" into heaven, then have at it. I don't want in. I will stand outside with my husband and children. I would rather be on fire then be without them. That is why I am ex-Catholic. They lost me. And you're the kind of person that reminds me that I will never go back.
Can't wait for the response......:popcorn::popcorn:
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
I studied the Bible for over 12 years. I have read it enough times to form an opinion. I think a lot of the Bible is crap. Maybe I have seen this book used to hurt too many people. Fools use it as a club to beat down anyone they are afraid of. They find random, out of context quotes and cling to them as they stand there righteous and smug in their superiority over everyone else. Screw that. I refuse to use Jesus's name to hurt people.
OUCH! Why blame the Bible for people's screw ups? That's like saying knives are at fault for all the stabbings in the world. It's people dear, and they will ALWAYS let you down. I have to agree with you, they do find "out of context quotes"...and use Jesus name to hurt others.
Geek said:
JUST about being good to others???? That is what this life is about. If your religon is about being one of the very few to get a "key" into heaven, then have at it. I don't want in. I will stand outside with my husband and children. I would rather be on fire
then be without them. That is why I am ex-Catholic. They lost me.
:smoochy:I left for the same reason Geek but, again, don't blame the Bible for it. And, Matthew 7 v 13 says that it is a narrow road and only a few find it so, as long as you don't push Jesus out of the picture, you'll be there.
Geek said:
And you're the kind of person that reminds me that I will never go back.
Now you're blaming me? Go back where? It sounds like you were really disgusted with the catholic church as I was, but I didn't come off with this hatred for them. Wha's up wit that, lady? I just quote the words and you hate me for it? When a doctor quotes his medical books, do people hate him for it? (depends on the diagnosis I guess). Well, Jesus predicted that too in (John 15 v 18-21). Contrary to what you think, I don't hate anyone. If I hate anything it's not the people, it's what they do.:yay:
 
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