Breastfeeding

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
My excuse is that when I was 17 (and really smart!  ;) ) I would walk across the street from the beach and run in for a soda then cross back over to the beach, sometimes with a towel or shorts and sometimes not.  

At my age now, I am not comfortable enough to do it, nor do I think it's appropriate either.
 

PmoneyandTT

New Member
Don't ever go to Miami... South beach is only for people with beautiful bodies -and the clothes to show them off..

Now that would be awful for me to think that way..

My whole point about the clothes were - usually the people who are getting offended from a breastfeed baby in public - are the ones who are walking around with revealing clothes - or allowing their children to wear those clothes..

I'm glad I have traveled the world.. Lexington Park - is clueless - and anyone that has been born there - never left outside of maryland - needs some enlightening.. There's more to life then your backyard..
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Years ago I wouldn't have thought twice about going in 7-11 in a swimsuit, but now that the body's a little older, it's a different story.  But that is entirely different than breastfeeding in public.  I'm not against that either as long as it's done with some discretion.
 

PmoneyandTT

New Member
Your right - you have all the rights to wear whatever.. We had this discussion before about clothes.. Didn't mean to get off the subject of breastfeeding..

Question - for the people that feel uncomfortable about public breastfeeding - why does it make you feel that way..  I mean if the women is discret - and she isn't showing the world her breast on purpose - it shouldn't even bother you..
Or if it happens to slip out - I think she would be more embarrass then the public. Also to the people who are uncomfortable.. Do you get uncomfortable when you see ads in magazines or in the malls showing off women in underwear?
I think people get annoyed - because they have hangups with themselves..
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
Vrai, so I take it wearing green butt floss and some shamrock pasties is out of the question for Friday? :confused:  Darn!  I'd special ordered them just for the occassion!  :wink:

I personally don't have a problem with breast feeding in public, or showing some skin if you can pull it off and not make us all go blind from the horror (I think we've had this discussion before).  If I had big hooters I'd be showing everybody and their brother.  But that's probably just my hooter envy talkin! :lmao:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
What I'm saying is this:  if you want to run around with skimpy clothing on, that's your business.  But if people express disapproval or stare at you, you can't legitimately be annoyed by that since you went out of your way to call attention to yourself or shock people.  When you are outside the norm, people will stare and be uncomfortable.  Just a fact of life - I didn't make the rules.  If you haven't been arrested, it means you're adhering to society's standards enough for me, by golly.

Cariblue, I take that to mean you will be joining us Friday night? :smile:

And Christy, I <i>double dare</i> you to show up in Shamrock pasties! :shocked:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
But I'd still like to know if those who are uncomfortable with breastfeeding are uncomfortable about skimpy clothing, pasties instead of a shirt, etc.
 

Otter

Nothing to see here
cariblue on 8:18 pm on Mar. 14, 2002[br] Do I detect a horn dog?........Hey Otter, think anyone will remember me?

LOL, Cari...Be nice, admittedly I step over the line sometimes, but these folks know Im kidding(I hope).  Apoligies to Christy/Vrai if any offense was taken..As for remembering, Im sure they would, your points were on target, tho I may not agree with em.  As for the thread point...no problem with any mother feeding their baby...and the skimpy clothing or bathing suits, its good for my heart...

(Edited by otter at 10:52 pm on Mar. 14, 2002)


(Edited by otter at 10:55 pm on Mar. 14, 2002)
 

aviatrix

Member
vraiblonde on 4:07 pm on Mar. 14, 2002[br]But I'd still like to know if those who are uncomfortable with breastfeeding are uncomfortable about skimpy clothing, pasties instead of a shirt, etc.

Guess this kindof refers to me as I don't care to be around a woman breastfeeding in public.  Again, remember I think it is fine if she does it (even though I don't think I would), done discretely I won't notice, but I just don't care to know about/see it.  My preference, her right.

Skimpy clothing on those that can pull it off - No.  Those that wear it but can't pull it off - more disgust/pity than discomfort.

Obscene (my def - not the legal one) clothing (pasties, thongs are included in this - along with anything showing butt cheek or crack) - Yes

Which is which is a variable dependent on many things including environmental setting.  That is why a law would be idiotic.  If it is not "indecent exposure" by law, it is the viewers problem and they (myself included) are free to leave.

:dance: next . . .


(Edited by aviatrix at 12:26 pm on Mar. 15, 2002)
 

aviatrix

Member
PmoneyandTT on 3:22 pm on Mar. 14, 2002[br]Question - for the people that feel uncomfortable about public breastfeeding - why does it make you feel that way..
Seems a silly question to ask "why does it make you feel that way".  Gosh I balled my eyes out at my friends funeral - why did I do that?? :cry: It has to do with my heuristics - how I was raised, my life experience, my personal values - its an emotion for goodness sake - personal thing - not right or wrong.  Kinda like religious beliefs.

 PmoneyandTT on 3:22 pm on Mar. 14, 2002[br]I mean if the women is discret - and she isn't showing the world her breast on purpose - it shouldn't even bother you..
Or if it happens to slip out - I think she would be more embarrass then the public.
Agree totally.  If it does bother me (she is not discrete), I will leave. Anyone who has a problem with that is just as bad as the person that tells the mother she is wrong. :angry:

PmoneyandTT on 3:22 pm on Mar. 14, 2002[br]Also to the people who are uncomfortable.. Do you get uncomfortable when you see ads in magazines or in the malls showing off women in underwear?
No - again, setting, purpose play a role.  Indecent exposure is carefully observed in these cases too, they are fine.  

PmoneyandTT on 3:22 pm on Mar. 14, 2002[br]I think people get annoyed - because they have hangups with themselves..  
 I think your wrong, I'm pretty comfortable with who I am and how I look.  But maybe you are talking to others as we agree on most points here.  I don't get annoyed, I just am not comfortable around a woman breastfeeding.  I don't think they are wrong and I think the people that do think they are wrong and confront them are judgmental (this is a huge insult in my book - don't judge lest ye be judged) :nono:.

Anyway, since I was one of the few to admit discomfort thought I should respond.

:stooges:
 

PmoneyandTT

New Member
I don't think my question why does it make you feel uncomfortable was a silly question..  I quess when I look at the word uncomfortable - the meaning that comes to me is Im embarrassed - I feel offended - I maybe feeling fear..

So your embarrassed about it - offended about it.. Thats what I was getting at..

Now this is a silly question - Do you feel uncomfortable when overweight people eat out?  I'm trying to say - whether you are fat or skinny - child or a baby - you have to eat - even if it may offend someone else..

You basically are saying - if you breastfeed - pump your breast before leaving out so the baby can drink out of a bottle.. But some babies will not take a bottle if they are breast feed.. (note from experience)

Im not looking for an answer.. I just like analyzing ever possible angle..

And about the overweight issue - Hey I had a friend that would go crazy when she  seen a overly weight person at an all you can eat.. She was embarrassing because she made such a big deal about it..  
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
Ooops!  Posted my response in regards to the Shamrock pasties under meet and greet "when Irish are smiling"!
 

Christine

Member
I’m coming in late to the discussion here … but I can’t resist adding my two cents.

Breastfeeding is a very personal decision.  There are many factors that come in to a mother’s decision to breastfeed.  I take the decisions I make about my child’s health very seriously.  I do the research, and choose what I think is best for my child and our family. I don’t think poorly of bottle feeding mothers, but I ask that they grant me the same respect for my decision to breastfeed.

To me, mothering isn’t about what’s convenient for me or anyone else.  It’s about providing for my child to the best of my ability.  Honestly, I never considered not breastfeeding.  Sure, some might think that leaking breasts, having to unsnap bras, stuffing your baby under your shirt are inconvenient.  And even if they were (although I never found it so), it would be worth it to me to provide my baby with the best possible nutrition available.  There are so many health benefits for nursing, both to mother and baby.  Here is a link that explains some of these benefits in more detail:
http://www.lalecheleague.com/FAQ/advantages.html

Another issue brought up here are older children nursing.  As someone else mentioned, breastfeeding serves not only as a means of nutrition, but also to promote bonding between mother and child.  Often children “comfort nurse”.  Personally, I think this is yet another means of meeting my child’s needs.  Yes I realize there are other ways to comfort a child, and they should also be employed as well.  But I wouldn’t refuse my child the comfort of nursing any more than I would refuse to kiss his skinned knee.  The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends breastfeeding at least until one year.  Longer than that if desired by both mother and child.  The World Health Organization recommends nursing for at least two years.  I recommend checking out this link if you’re interested in learning more benefits of extended nursing.  http://www.lalecheleague.com/FAQ/advantagetoddler.html


I’m realizing that it sounds like I have had a long breastfeeding relationship with my child.  Unfortunately, I was only able to nurse him until he was 4 months old.  At that point I had to start a regimen of chemotherapy which was too toxic to continue nursing him through.  I mourn the premature ending of our nursing relationship to this day.  If I were still nursing, I would happily do so in public.  Sure, I might get one or two nasty stares.  But I also might inspire someone who had previously thought it too difficult, or too revealing, or just not practical.  If I could help just one babe receive the multitude of benefits of mother’s milk, it would be worth it.

Fortunately we’re not debating whether or not a baby has a right to it’s mother’s milk in public or otherwise, only if others are comfortable with seeing it.  If someone is uncomfortable with it, I’m sorry.  It’s a small price to pay for the health of our children.


~Christine
 
For those who feel uncomfortable:

Do you feel uncomfortable seeing someones face in public?  How about their foot, leg, arm, nose or hair?
I assume not!!!

Our culture and sins have made us view breast in a sexual way.  When in reality, they are meant for nurishment to a child.  God gave women breast to feed their babies, not for sexual toys.  We as humans, flesh and body, sin and perversion, have made the breast something that they are not.  
That is why some of you look at them as something to be uncomfortable about.  Stop or deal with your sexual feelings and view them as what they are. NORISHMENT! NOT TOYS FOR PLEASURE IN THE BEDROOM.....

With this said, you should hopefully see the light and move on to bigger things to be uncomfortable about.  Like the TV you and your kids probably watch together, the media taking over our children's lives and innocents, and all the horrible ungodly acts taking place all around you.  Go- be uncomfortable about that.. COMPLAIN about it.  Do something!!

Let's not get hung up on things that are so good and natural when so many horrible things go on in public that you don't complain about or talk to others about. You just accept all the new, modern UNGODLY things little by little and then sit back years later and say what is going on?

I hope that you can go now and move on to a cause worth complaining about.
 

Frank

Chairman of the Board
Hey, I sure don't mind *seeing* a breast in public. Nobody - nobody - is asking that, and repackaging the question to mean something else doesn't make sense. But I'm not crazy about seeing AND *hearing* the sound of a kid nursing ain't my cup of tea.

I tend to put the unpleasantness somewhere around seeing a plumber's butt cleavage.
 
I agree w/ one of the ladies who spoke before,  it makes me uncomfortable seeing a over weight person in line at an all you can eat.  Everyone makes noise when they eat, Frank.  EVEN PLUMBERS!!  Don't let the little mental connections in your head make you feel uncomfortable when you hear a child eating what God intended them to.  Why don't you go hide when you eat, no one wants to hear your noise.

Don't get me wrong.  I am not trying to come off ugly, I am just filled with sadness that people cannot look at things the way God wants us to.  Instead we make things perverted and sinful.

And if you feel bringing God into it changes the question or taste of it, I am sorry but he is the center of ALL creation and should be the solution to ALL your uncomforts....
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
Frank, I find your comments regarding watching women breastfeed surprisingly unsophisticated.  Nuff said! :)
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
I do however wholeheartedly agree with you on plumber's crack!  

I must also jump in and comment on the fat people issue.  God made people in all shapes and sizes.  Why find that offensive?  60% of the American population is clinically overweight.  If only skinny people ate at Buffet's, Bon Buffet would go bankrupt.  Fat people are good for the economy!  So there! :)  Anyway, I myself am ranting on in a surprisingly unsophisticated way!  I think I am in need of some serious psychological evaluation! :crazy:
 
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