Can Atheists Be Parents?

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Anyone wanna...

:razz:

I'm just wondering why NH posted this in News and CURRENT Events. Has he finally run out of more contemporary articles to link to?

...talk about the Civil War? I am currently reading a book about it and I think the lead up to the war is pertinent in context of the lead up to our invasion of Iraq at least as a comparison to big events of violence and how and why it may not have been avoidable.
 

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
...talk about the Civil War? I am currently reading a book about it and I think the lead up to the war is pertinent in context of the lead up to our invasion of Iraq at least as a comparison to big events of violence and how and why it may not have been avoidable.

Interesting, what's the title?
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
There are people who don't believe in religion, yet DO believe in a god.

I said nothing about morals or ethics. I never said recognizing the existence of a god had anything to do with having or not having morals and ethics.

Organized religion was created to teach a standardized set of morals and ethics. For example, Judeo-Christian religion teaches how big a stick a man can use to beat his wife. My statement that I don't believe in Atheism has nothing to do with morals, ethics or organized religion.

How can NOT believe in something based on nothing??

I don't believe in the non-believers? Is that the dreaded double negative??

So in reality you DO belive in athiesm?

But how can you believe in something that is based on not believing?

I think I'm going to stick to the church of Popeye.. I yam what I yam.
 

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
...Bruce Catton; The Coming Fury

The analogies to today are mine. The Civil War, as a time period is, to me, the window to the soul of what America is.

I would be interested in your thoughts on what could have been done to avoid the war.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Well...

I would be interested in your thoughts on what could have been done to avoid the war.

...if Southern leaders were not insistent on fighting, they would have announced withdrawal from the Union, as they did. They would have established their own government, as they did.

And then they would have entered into negotiations with the federal government to peacefully and patiently acquire each and every piece of federal property in the succeeded states, from arsenals to forts to offices to pencils and paper.

As it was, they did so violently and asked for war. The North said...

OK.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
:shrug:

if you are going to explain to me how something was created out of nothing...be my guest.

I used to be able to explain NEARLY every aspect of how a god could not exist...but thats where I'd get stuck. You simply cannot have physical things without some divine intervention. Sure, you can explain how different chemicals combine today to make different things, BUT, how do you explain exactly where carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, ect. atoms came from? You cannot even have the heat that was required to combine some atoms to other atoms to make different chemical combinations w/o the initial creation of something.

Tell me how something came from nothing and maybe I'll second guess my beliefs, but currently I can completely be against organized religion but still believe that some being had to have created the elements of the universe.


:coffee:
 
K

Kain99

Guest
:shrug:

if you are going to explain to me how something was created out of nothing...be my guest.

I used to be able to explain NEARLY every aspect of how a god could not exist...but thats where I'd get stuck. You simply cannot have physical things without some divine intervention. Sure, you can explain how different chemicals combine today to make different things, BUT, how do you explain exactly where carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, ect. atoms came from? You cannot even have the heat that was required to combine some atoms to other atoms to make different chemical combinations w/o the initial creation of something.

Tell me how something came from nothing and maybe I'll second guess my beliefs, but currently I can completely be against organized religion but still believe that some being had to have created the elements of the universe.


:coffee:
Then it comes doown to who created the being. It's all very confusing.
 
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