Catholicism and Abortion.

[PJay]

The woman might be temporarily insane but that Doctor is not.

Howdy back. I disagree. By your thinking the doctor could be considered to be insane, too.

Neither are insane, they know exactly what they are doing, just different reasons.

 

[PJay]

Homesick..laugh was probably the wrong thing to say..it sadens me that the people in the world, look down upon others, and judge others, for reason's they "dont" agree with it...........I too would love to live in a peaceful world.....it is not God who has made this world the way it is today it is humans, who sit in judgement of others, and think their way is the right way or not at all, "love they neighbour" should be taken and used in the world, because after all if we stay bitter and in judgement, can you imagine how much worse this world will be for our children and grandchildren etc.

Yeah. I understand.

 

[vraiblonde]

You say that it is murder, I have to laugh at all you "right to life" activist's, when you yourself are part of a group who have commited murder, yes the blowing up of abortion clinic's with people still inside is "murder".....

Back off

I am not a "right-to-life" activist, nor am I part of ANY group that bombs abortion clinics. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Now, is it justifiable? I say it is.

I think its boring when all these little pro-abortion people start about how "it's NOT murder". They don't have the courage of their convictions and are just trying to polish a turd by pretending a human embryo is nothing more than nail clippings. Everyone knows that's bullshit and you just look stupid by continuing that rhetoric.

 

[2ndAmendment]

... You say that it is murder, I have to laugh at all you "right to life" activist's, when you yourself are part of a group who have commited murder, yes the blowing up of abortion clinic's with people still inside is "murder"......

I agree that blowing up abortion clinics is the wrong way. Killing abortion doctors is the wrong way. I belong to no group that does so nor would I do so personally. Abortion is still the premeditated killing of human life. Premeditation makes it murder. If you can justify it in your own mind, go for it, but God knew you before your were conceived.

 

[K-T7]

I think its boring when all these little pro-abortion people start about how "it's NOT murder". They don't have the courage of their convictions and are just trying to polish a turd by pretending a human embryo is nothing more than nail clippings. Everyone knows that's bullshit and you just look stupid by continuing that rhetoric.

I in no means are pro-abortion ....and in no means right to life......but I believe that a person has the right to chose, and i dont think people should ever judge that person or say she is commiting murder............I listen and study both side's of this debate, ..........My personel belief does NOT matter, and I will in no means EVER judge someone who has had to make this decision.it does not make them any less of a person, or any less deserved to be treated with kindness.

 

[camily]

OMG Am I going to have to unsubscribe from this thread?

 

[K-T7]

I agree that blowing up abortion clinics is the wrong way. Killing abortion doctors is the wrong way. I belong to no group that does so nor would I do so personally. Abortion is still the premeditated killing of human life. Premeditation makes it murder. If you can justify it in your own mind, go for it, but God knew you before your were conceived.

Whether God Knew me or not is besides the point...........because God "knew" me does not mean that if I aborted a fetus, he wouldnt understand or know why, or forgive me.....like I said.......who are we to judge.....God is the only one who can do that!!!!

 

[2ndAmendment]

I in no means are pro-abortion ....and in no means right to life......but I believe that a person has the right to chose, and i dont think people should ever judge that person or say she is commiting murder............I listen and study both side's of this debate, ..........My personel belief does NOT matter, and I will in no means EVER judge someone who has had to make this decision.it does not make them any less of a person, or any less deserved to be treated with kindness.

I don't think anyone in this thread called anyone a murderer. It is stated that the act, abortion, is murder, the premeditated killing of human life. That is a statement but not a judgment. I guess it can be by implication, but no one made any accusations toward anyone regrading murder. You did call us all hypocrites, so that is a judgment. But :shrug:

I would like to point out that God forgives even murder through His plan of salvation.

Your beliefs are your own just as mine are my own. Whether you are right or I am right or neither of us is right will be known in a instant at some time in the future for both of us.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Whether God Knew me or not is besides the point...........because God "knew" me does not mean that if I aborted a fetus, he wouldnt understand or know why, or forgive me.....like I said.......who are we to judge.....God is the only one who can do that!!!!

See my post prior to this one.

 

[K-T7]

I don't think anyone in this thread called anyone a murderer. .

Oh I was not talking about me..........i was talking about women in general.and when you say abortion is murder are you not calling the women a murderer?
The debate can go on and go on..you will never agree that it is not Murder, as I will never agree it is wrong.......my original point in this was you cant call it murder in the first few weeks, as it is just a formation of cells, and i dont believe a baby can feel pain in the womb even though it has the nerv' cells, the brain is not mature enough to know what they are for, pain has to experienced, as well as developed, and you saying the horrid thing of "i wonder how many women would have an abortion if they new their baby felt pain".was uncalled for...........most abortions are preformed before any "serious and necessary growth has happened to a fetus, later abortions are usually because of harm to mother or severe things to the un born child, and that in itself is a horrible thing for anyone to go through.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Oh I was not talking about me..........i was talking about women in general.and when you say abortion is murder are you not calling the women a murderer?
The debate can go on and go on..you will never agree that it is not Murder, as I will never agree it is wrong.......my original point in this was you cant call it murder in the first few weeks, as it is just a formation of cells, and i dont believe a baby can feel pain in the womb even though it has the nerv' cells, the brain is not mature enough to know what they are for, pain has to experienced, as well as developed, and you saying the horrid thing of "i wonder how many women would have an abortion if they new their baby felt pain".was uncalled for...........most abortions are preformed before any "serious and necessary growth has happened to a fetus, later abortions are usually because of harm to mother or severe things to the un born child, and that in itself is a horrible thing for anyone to go through.

Brain waves are detectable at 6 weeks.

Have you seen a picture of a fetus between 6 and 8 weeks? Looks human to me.

<img src="http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/fig20baby7.jpg" />

 

[vraiblonde]

I in no means are pro-abortion ....and in no means right to life

Sorry - you're either for abortion or you're against it. Either that or you have no opinion, so why are you talking about it?

If you believe a woman has a right to choose abortion, then you are pro-abortion. I have no problem admitting that I am pro-abortion and consider it justifiable murder.

What seems to be the problem?

 

[charger383]

here is my view read with an open mind, and know that i suck at spelling.
murder=murder
a child has a soul the day the sperm met the egg......
now if girls get raped, why would they opt not to take a morning after pill, or use a sperm killing agent right away... i know its tragic and all but why wait 2 months till the baby has a heartbeat and is growing to murder it. The morning after pill will kill the egg before the embreo begins to grow.

me personally i am for capital punishment if you kill the murderer the same way he/she decided to take a life (eye for an eye) soo.... if someone was to go out and get an abortion i feel the mother should get a big needle to the head to kill it and them be vaccumed out like they were last weeks trash.

 

[charger383]

Oh I was not talking about me..........i was talking about women in general.and when you say abortion is murder are you not calling the women a murderer?
The debate can go on and go on..you will never agree that it is not Murder, as I will never agree it is wrong.......my original point in this was you cant call it murder in the first few weeks, as it is just a formation of cells, and i dont believe a baby can feel pain in the womb even though it has the nerv' cells, the brain is not mature enough to know what they are for, pain has to experienced, as well as developed, and you saying the horrid thing of "i wonder how many women would have an abortion if they new their baby felt pain".was uncalled for...........most abortions are preformed before any "serious and necessary growth has happened to a fetus, later abortions are usually because of harm to mother or severe things to the un born child, and that in itself is a horrible thing for anyone to go through.

sooo.... my neighbor got shot in iraq and is now parilized, he can not feel anything but if he were to get killed, it would be murder..... WHATS THE DIFFRENCE>




I WILL NOT REPLY TO ANY OF THIS SO THERE IS MY $.02

 

[JPC, Sr.]

Democrats Rock!

Sorry - you're either for abortion or you're against it. Either that or you have no opinion, so why are you talking about it? If you believe a woman has a right to choose abortion, then you are pro-abortion.

There is a lot of middle ground, like believing people have the right to an abortion does not mean that they want more abortions. Like I believe in pulling teeth but I want the Dentist to only do it as a last resort and to pull teeth as seldom as possible. That is middle ground.

I have no problem admitting that I am pro-abortion and consider it justifiable murder.

What seems to be the problem?

If you consider it murder then where do you see any justice in murdering a fetus? Excluding saving the mother's life which is not justice but necessity.

 

[itsbob]

There is a lot of middle ground, like believing people have the right to an abortion does not mean that they want more abortions. Like I believe in pulling teeth but I want the Dentist to only do it as a last resort and to pull teeth as seldom as possible. That is middle ground.
If you consider it murder then where do you see any justice in murdering a fetus? Excluding saving the mother's life which is not justice but necessity.

Hey dickhead..

Who took care of your kids when you were in jail for FIVE years!?? Boy, you taught them a lesson didn't you.. Your kid(S) must of been so proud of you.. My daddy would rather spend five YEARS in jail, then take care of/ support me.

You think your kids might just suffer from some mental illness due to you being such an ignorant worthless piece of ####??

You seem to be the living argument to support abortion.. if your parents aborted you, life on this planet would be just that much nicer.

 

[K-T7]

What seems to be the problem?

Their is no problem at all......and thanks, I guess my view of it is like yours as I do believe a women should choose!!

 

[K-T7]

Brain waves are detectable at 6 weeks.

Have you seen a picture of a fetus between 6 and 8 weeks? Looks human to me.

Brains are detectable at 6 weeks by who's research?.......dont you think sticking electroids into a fetus at 6 weeks is abit humane?......Those #"S are what you choose to believe..and einstein of course I have seen a picture, i am a mother of 7!!!........i did notice your picture was way big...shame it wasnt "actual" size!
And the picture you posted is exactly what I am talking about.......pushing your belief into people's faces.......and no it does NOT look human to me.....more like a tadpole!

 

[K-T7]

sooo.... my neighbor got shot in iraq and is now parilized, he can not feel anything but if he were to get killed, it would be murder..... WHATS THE DIFFRENCE>

BIG difference he has already experienced life..a fetus has no idea of life outside the womb!!! They dont even breath until they are born!!!..BIG DIFFERENCE.......their is no "LIFE" before your baby is born!

 

[PJay]

sooo.... my neighbor got shot in iraq and is now parilized, he can not feel anything but if he were to get killed, it would be murder..... WHATS THE DIFFRENCE>




I WILL NOT REPLY TO ANY OF THIS SO THERE IS MY $.02

Thanks for your "$.02"