Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
No it is not.2ndAmendment said:
Yes, it is.Bustem' Down said:
How long do you want to go at this? Your opinion, mine, yours, mine, etc.? Shall we agree that we disagree and leave it?
Abortion is murder. Period. It is the deliberate destruction of a human life. And I am a pro-abortion atheist.Bustem' Down said:
The debate should be whether it's justifiable or not.
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
Absolutely.2ndAmendment said:
shake and be friends?
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
vraiblonde said:
Friends? How about Internet acquaintances?Bustem' Down said:Absolutely.
Brotherly, of course.
Bustem' Down
Give Peas a Chance
Ok, I can go for that.2ndAmendment said:Friends? How about Internet acquaintances?
J
JPC, Sr.
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Democrats Rock!
I believe the basic question in abortion is wrongly applied.
If the parent or parents want to get an abortion then it is legally secondary to if the Doctor has any right to be killing the fetus?
In assisted suicides we put Jack Kavorkian in jail for assisting the killing of people that want to die. Plus drug pushers are deemed more guilty then drug users. So the Doctor doing the abortion is more guilty then is the patient.
It makes me wonder what our Medical schools are like when they teach the Doctors that human life and death can be bought and sold.
I would like to see the legal and ethical discussions change from whether the woman has a right to chose, to being does a Doctor have the right to make the choice of kill or not to kill?
A woman might want an abortion based on stress or pressure or fear, panic, unhappy, or even calous disregard,
but that Doctor has to be cold sober to repeatedly put that scalple into the flesh ...
So if abortion is murder then the Doctor is the murderer and not the woman.
vraiblonde said:
I believe the basic question in abortion is wrongly applied.If the parent or parents want to get an abortion then it is legally secondary to if the Doctor has any right to be killing the fetus?
In assisted suicides we put Jack Kavorkian in jail for assisting the killing of people that want to die. Plus drug pushers are deemed more guilty then drug users. So the Doctor doing the abortion is more guilty then is the patient.
It makes me wonder what our Medical schools are like when they teach the Doctors that human life and death can be bought and sold.
I would like to see the legal and ethical discussions change from whether the woman has a right to chose, to being does a Doctor have the right to make the choice of kill or not to kill?
A woman might want an abortion based on stress or pressure or fear, panic, unhappy, or even calous disregard,
but that Doctor has to be cold sober to repeatedly put that scalple into the flesh ...
So if abortion is murder then the Doctor is the murderer and not the woman.
JPC, Sr. often misses the obvious to others.Homesick said:
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JPC, Sr.
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Democrats Rock!
That might be guilty of "conspiracy to comit murder" and if found guilty by trial and jury then it would still be a lesser crime and a lesser jail sentence then the one that does the killing.
The woman might be temporarily insane but that Doctor is not.
Homesick said:
That might be guilty of "conspiracy to comit murder" and if found guilty by trial and jury then it would still be a lesser crime and a lesser jail sentence then the one that does the killing.The woman might be temporarily insane but that Doctor is not.
MMDad
Lem Putt
You want to be a lawmaker, but you don't even know anything about the law? You are wrong. You are in a library. Look it up.JPC said:
The woman might be temporarily insane but that Doctor is not.
No. Your understanding of the law is pathetic.JPC said:
The woman might be temporarily insane but that Doctor is not.
Murder by hire is a capital offense in many jurisdictions. The person doing the hiring is considered the prime mover.
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2ndAmendment said:
I really see the women as more of the victim and the Doctors as the perpetrators in abortions.
MMDad
Lem Putt
That's because you are trying to empathize with them. You try to place yourself into their situation, so you put your personality traits on them.JPC said:
Since you are a professional, lifelong victim, you see others as victims as well. You do not accept responsibility for your own actions, therefore you don't feel others should either.
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JPC, Sr.
Guest
Democrats Rock!
Yes exactly, and thank you for noticing.
I think far too many people just try to throw stones at unfortunate woman that get into those tough situations. That is attacking the easy target.
I believe I sure do accept responsibility for my own actions but not for the actions that others do to me.
The woman might well ask for the abortion but the Doctor commits the act.
There is a big difference from words and deeds.
MMDad said:
Yes exactly, and thank you for noticing.I think far too many people just try to throw stones at unfortunate woman that get into those tough situations. That is attacking the easy target.
MMDad said:
I believe I sure do accept responsibility for my own actions but not for the actions that others do to me.The woman might well ask for the abortion but the Doctor commits the act.
There is a big difference from words and deeds.
HYPERCRITS........comes to mind when I read this topic...............who are you to judge a person, on a decision that they make...."he who throws the first stone".....it is not for us to decide who is right or who is wrong, and until the day you have walked in a women's shoe's who has had to make the decision whether she should abort her unborn fetus or not.how dare you all judge. You say that it is murder, I have to laugh at all you "right to life" activist's, when you yourself are part of a group who have commited murder, yes the blowing up of abortion clinic's with people still inside is "murder".....so get of your high horse's........dont preach to others how wrong abortion is when you have committed the same, and do not judge others unless you can whole heartedly know in your hearts of hearts you have commited NO sin. Even God himself does not judge you. It is not for us to decide.
Homesick..laugh was probably the wrong thing to say..it sadens me that the people in the world, look down upon others, and judge others, for reason's they "dont" agree with it...........I too would love to live in a peaceful world.....it is not God who has made this world the way it is today it is humans, who sit in judgement of others, and think their way is the right way or not at all, "love they neighbour" should be taken and used in the world, because after all if we stay bitter and in judgement, can you imagine how much worse this world will be for our children and grandchildren etc.Homesick said: