Child Support

[This_person]

Link click HERE. The fact is what this whole thread is based on. DUH!

So you believe the man who was NOT paying child support through the system, but through the way you suggest is in someway being harmed? The man who willingly wants to continue to help his child is being harmed?

You were right. About the idiot thing, I mean.

 

[daisycreek]

Not the child nor the custodial got the child support anyway.

The State of New York has been taking the child support cash and keeping the loot.

The child support never helped the child at all and still does not.

For 18 years ..............................

ummmmmmmmmm they had a place to live didnt they??????????????? hello??? if they had to pay the market value for rent... the cost would have used up the child support and more.

 

[Roberta]

My daughter turned 18 a few months ago and I stopped sending the child support check. Today my Ex contacted me and asked where her check was. She said in N.Y. I'm required to pay child support until my daughter gets full time work. My daughter lives in an apartment with her boyfriend and has a child of her own. I told my daughter I'd help her financially but I wold not send her mother anymore child support. Anyone know N.Y. law? or have I inserted my foot

WHY in the world were you paying her mother child support when she was living on her own??

 

[vraiblonde]

Not the child nor the custodial got the child support anyway.

The State of New York has been taking the child support cash and keeping the loot.

The child support never helped the child at all and still does not.

For 18 years ..............................

I was wondering when you were going to show up in this thread.

Just a touch of logic here, before I read the rest of your posts:

If the Mom isn't seeing any of the money and NY State is keeping it all, why would the Mom call and want to know where her check was?

DOH!

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

I was wondering when you were going to show up in this thread.

Just a touch of logic here, before I read the rest of your posts:

If the Mom isn't seeing any of the money and NY State is keeping it all, why would the Mom call and want to know where her check was?

DOH!

The man said they pay her $50. Click for Link HERE.

And yes, the custodial will sell out their baby's dad for petty cash.

 

[This_person]

The man said they pay her $50. Click for Link HERE.

And yes, the custodial will sell out their baby's dad for petty cash.

"The man" said they would do that if he went through the child support system, but he didn't. He paid his support to her, directly, and had "never been diverted to the child support agency because I've always paid my support." He was talking what could happen, not what did. He was one of the ones who actually did what he was supposed to do, like you say everyone (but you) would do. You have to read the posts, not imagine them.

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

"The man" said they would do that if he went through the child support system, but he didn't. He paid his support to her, directly, and had "never been diverted to the child support agency because I've always paid my support." He was talking what could happen, not what did. He was one of the ones who actually did what he was supposed to do, like you say everyone (but you) would do. You have to read the posts, not imagine them.

Aparently he wrote two things that seem contradictory and he is not yet posted to clear up the contradiction.

But I think you are exagerating his words as mine go right to the heart of the matter.

Many parents say they are paying the custodial or even say they are paying the children when the factual check goes through the gov thieves.

He probably only means he has never been pulled into Court for enforcement.

Either way he is still being cheated and you are grabbing for crumbs.

 

[missperky]

Aparently he wrote two things that seem contradictory and he is not yet posted to clear up the contradiction.

But I think you are exagerating his words as mine go right to the heart of the matter.

Many parents say they are paying the custodial or even say they are paying the children when the factual check goes through the gov thieves.

He probably only means he has never been pulled into Court for enforcement.

Either way he is still being cheated and you are grabbing for crumbs.

There was a quote by you, but I couldn't find it.

How do you know how much a child eats? It's not like you have ever prepared meals for one or ever had to buy food for one..So?...I'm curious..

 

[MMDad]

There was a quote by you, but I couldn't find it.

How do you know how much a child eats? It's not like you have ever prepared meals for one or ever had to buy food for one..So?...I'm curious..

This one?

: A child can sleep on daddy's couch. Thats okay! Children really eat very little. Small stomach, small mouths.

 

[missperky]

This one?

Yes, where did you find it?

 

[MMDad]

Yes, where did you find it?

I quoted it in the other JPC thread earlier today. Here's where he said it:
http://forums.somd.com/showthread.php?p=1389703

 

[aps45819]

Many parents say they are paying the custodial or even say they are paying the children when the factual check goes through the gov thieves.

Let's try some math.
My ex gets a check every two weeks from the state. The check she gets is for the exact same amount that's deducted from my pay.
How much did the government steal?

 

[Big Fatty]

I wonder if my dad had a "no more child support party" on my 18th

I know for a fact my biological father did. A$$hat.

 

[This_person]

I know for a fact my biological father did. A$$hat.

Did he stop offering you any kind of help? If you need him for something, do you feel you could ask?

 

[This_person]

Aparently he wrote two things that seem contradictory and he is not yet posted to clear up the contradiction.

But I think you are exagerating his words as mine go right to the heart of the matter.

Many parents say they are paying the custodial or even say they are paying the children when the factual check goes through the gov thieves.

He probably only means he has never been pulled into Court for enforcement.

Either way he is still being cheated and you are grabbing for crumbs.

Actually, it's not contradictory at all. It's just called the English language.

See, he was doing this one thing. If he did this other thing, than someone else would do yet a third thing. But, since he was doing this one thing, the other someone didn't do the third thing.

Does that help?

Now, as to the kids not getting the help. Hmm, how to make you understand?

Let's say that you owe Jimmy Jr. money. Wait, no, that hits too close to honesty.

Let's say you want money for nothing from the government. No, that's too close, too.

Okay, let's say that you owe money for a car (since you like the car analogy so much). You don't have enough, but you want that car. So, the bank gives the dealership money on your behalf, and you pay the bank back. See how that works? No? Okay, see, the dealership here is like the child, a certain amount of money is needed. The state is like the bank, they have money to loan out. And, since there's no way I could think of anything like you, I just called you you. Since you don't want to pay for your owed money up front, the state pays for the person who owes, then the person who owes pays the state back. So, the dealership/child gets the money it needs to keep going, and the money (eventually) comes from the person who owes the money. Does that help you understand?

 

[Tinkerbell]

Let's try some math.
My ex gets a check every two weeks from the state. The check she gets is for the exact same amount that's deducted from my pay.
How much did the government steal?

Yeah, I've pointed this out to him before. When I deduct C/S from my hubby's employees paychecks (which we do weekly) - I send it to the Maryland CS enforcement peeps. They forward a check every month to the custodial parent. One of these employees is his cousin, who we know very well, and he has told us that the exact amount we take out is what she gets from the state. Apparently the State is stealing imaginary money. :shrug:


usagent -- if you come back to this thread and read any of JPC's posts - do NOT let them upset you - he's an idiot. Do a search on him and read some of his child support beliefs and I think you'll see what I mean.

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

Let's try some math.
My ex gets a check every two weeks from the state. The check she gets is for the exact same amount that's deducted from my pay.
How much did the government steal?

In that case the gov does not keep the money.

But the gov is no Robin Hood that steals from the rich and gives to the poor - they are just being the hood or hoodlum.

The gov steals that money and gives it to the custodials.

It is still stealing and the custodials recieve stolen money.

But this thread has the man / father reporting that the State of New York keeps the child support loot except for the $50 pay off to the custodials for selling out their children's separated parent - a disloyalty check.

See Link HERE.

And the State of Maryland does not pay $50 to our poorest of poor families as Maryland keeps all of the c/s loot and gives not one penny of that child support to the custodial or to the support of the poorest child(ren).

 

[This_person]

In that case the gov does not keep the money.

But the gov is no Robin Hood that steals from the rich and gives to the poor - they are just being the hood or hoodlum.

The gov steals that money and gives it to the custodials.

It is still stealing and the custodials recieve stolen money.

But this thread has the man / father reporting that the State of New York keeps the child support loot except for the $50 pay off to the custodials for selling out their children's separated parent - a disloyalty check.

See Link HERE.

And the State of Maryland does not pay $50 to our poorest of poor families as Maryland keeps all of the c/s loot and gives not one penny of that child support to the custodial or to the support of the poorest child(ren).

Really? What are the conditions under which they keep the money?

 

[JPC sr]

Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

I know for a fact my biological father did. A$$hat.

Nobody likes to be robbed.

You needed your father and not his money stolen.

The gov through the unjust child support is just stealing.

"Thou shalt not steal" are not just meaningless words written in stone.

That unjust and sinful child support divides families.

See the situation for what it really is.

The fathers submit to a thieving system because of the children.

But here we see the children do not understand nor appreciate the fact.

Thus to pay the c/s thievery is wrong and it hurts our families more-so then to defy it.

 

[MMDad]

How's your hangover today? Are you going to get drunk again tonight and give us another meltdown like you did last night?