Clean bill or 1500 page Pork Barrel?

WingsOfGold

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I can't think of a single reason why either of those would be federally funded.
Bridge a loan perhaps, stadium........ they can go phuck themselves. Do what they did with Ravens stadium. Specific lottery tickets paid for it. Personally I hope they move to Virginia.
 

herb749

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Bridge a loan perhaps, stadium........ they can go phuck themselves. Do what they did with Ravens stadium. Specific lottery tickets paid for it. Personally I hope they move to Virginia.

Bridge money should come out of transportation budget. I'm also sure not much of the money in the infrastructure bill has been used.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Yo brain trust, it’s going down in flames because it includes a 2 year extension of the debt ceiling. Trump wants it there up give tax cuts to the uber wealthy like Musk.

4 years of this freaking circus, the man can’t govern! Here are some more liberal tears, boo hoo.
This is another one of those times that you can leave 75% of the words out and not be thought of as a dick.I agree with the sentiment that lifting the debt ceiling is bad, but I feel dirty agreeing with you because of your dickish attitude.
 

Chopticon64

Well-Known Member
This is another one of those times that you can leave 75% of the words out and not be thought of as a dick.I agree with the sentiment that lifting the debt ceiling is bad, but I feel dirty agreeing with you because of your dickish attitude.
It’s just repulsive to see you folks act like this is anything but insanity.

The richest guy in the world convinced Trump the debt ceiling should be abolished, Trump told the house to torpedo the initial bill, then tried to get the debt ceiling eliminated, then tried to get it extended for two years, he got neither. He can’t negotiate, we saw it 4 years ago, he never got a republican congress to build the wall, and he won’t get sh*t done this time.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
I heard that as well
I think what pisses me off was hearing a right wing pundit MOCKING it, saying, it even had finding for a BRIDGE IN MARYLAND! The hubris!

Ok, should have always been a clean CR late in the game, but later spending WILL need funds for the Key Bridge. It didn’t collapse due to gross mismanagement.
 

22AcaciaAve

Well-Known Member
See, this is where you go off the rails. Trump is widely known to understand what advisors are, what delegating is, and govern accordingly.

I don't know why you hate Trump so much, to the point you'll embarrass yourself in public just to get a shot in. I'd love it if you could be honest for a second or two and explain it.

If I hate him so much, why did I vote for him? You totally are misreading my beliefs. Go back to some other threads and you will understand. I agree with most of Trump's policies. Even where the religious, abortion hating fanatics are against him not backing a federal ban on abortion, I agreed with him. I said months ago that his stance on throwing abortion rights back to the states was correct. I absolutely support his position on deportation of illegal criminals here in the United States. I agreed with his tax cuts in his first term. I am good with his belief of ending the Russian-Ukraine war, but only if Russia does not win any concessions from it. I would like his second term to be a little less disjointed as his first, but I still think he should keep his edge. So I'm not sure why you find my statements as hatred for Trump. It is certainly not him that I do not like.

This is also demonstrably not true. Trump is overwhelmingly generous with credit and the spotlight. He's constantly bringing people on stage to take a bow and giving shout outs to others.

Why do you do this? I'm genuinely interested.

That is when he brings them up on stage. But he does not like being upstaged. When he is in campaign mode, there are few better. He is a reality television mogul and he brings that persona onto the stage with him. But when he is president, he does not like anyone getting more publicity than him. That's not a bad thing. Most strong leaders are the same. Reagan never was upstaged. As much as conservatives hate Bill Clinton, he never was either, well except maybe for his wife. Obama never let anyone overshadow him. And I would be very disappointed if Trump allowed someone to overshadow him in the media as well. Again, not Trump that I do not like. :)
 

22AcaciaAve

Well-Known Member
Isn't that by definition power? He has the kings ear.

Yes, that is true. I hope Trump reverts to first term Trump and gets rid of the people who are playing him. But then he has a lot of money, and that is hard to ignore.
 

Chopticon64

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I think what pisses me off was hearing a right wing pundit MOCKING it, saying, it even had finding for a BRIDGE IN MARYLAND! The hubris!

Ok, should have always been a clean CR late in the game, but later spending WILL need funds for the Key Bridge. It didn’t collapse due to gross mismanagement.
No, didn’t you see the post by the top poster that the bridge doesn’t deserve funding? But folks who were impacted by a hurricane do? Don’t you see the difference? If you don’t, you should ask her.
 

22AcaciaAve

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The Key bridge does not deserve 100% funding. Maryland was warned in the 80's that the bridge was susceptible to collapse from a hit by one of the larger container ships that had been developed. They were advised to put barriers up around the bridge supports. They did nothing through multiple governors, both democrat and republican. Now the bridge comes down and they want the federal government to pay for it? I would tell them no way. You should have heeded our warnings and spent the money to secure the bridge.
 

Chopticon64

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So the CR passed without Trump’s begging request for a debt ceiling extension. Even the republicans are over him.

The American people are gonna get what they deserve.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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He is a reality television mogul

He's not though. He's an international real estate mogul. The Apprentice thing was just a lark and it irks me when haters reduce his accomplishments to the dumbest thing he's famous for.

It's like Sean Duffy and the media constantly referring to him as a reality TV star. That was almost 30 years ago and since then he's been a five-term Congressman and Fox Business show host. He was a Wisconsin DA for four terms.

Let's stop being petty. It's unbecoming.
 

Czar

Active Member
The Key bridge does not deserve 100% funding. Maryland was warned in the 80's that the bridge was susceptible to collapse from a hit by one of the larger container ships that had been developed. They were advised to put barriers up around the bridge supports. They did nothing through multiple governors, both democrat and republican. Now the bridge comes down and they want the federal government to pay for it? I would tell them no way. You should have heeded our warnings and spent the money to secure the bridge.
Tolls. People that use it will pay for it.
 

Ramp Guy

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So the CR passed without Trump’s begging request for a debt ceiling extension. Even the republicans are over him.

The American people are gonna get what they deserve.
...Yes, yes they will, a government being lead by a confident, sane, intelligent and highly capable staff of Trumps choosing.

The dark days of a shadow, hidden and non elected staff that controlled Biden's life and actions will be going away for good!
 

Hijinx

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Tolls. People that use it will pay for it.
I remember when the Potomac River Bridge, the Nice Bridge at Morgantown was paid for and they took the tolls off.
The the Bay Bridge was built and they put the toll back on and said it was to help pay for the Bay Bridge.
It's had a toll on it ever since., and that toll is higher then the Bay Bridge in order to keep Marylanders from buying cheaper gas and cigarettes from Virginia. Then they changed the name and made it the Nice- Middleton bridge. I still don't know what marvelous and significant thing Middleton did to deserve to get his name on a bridge, but what the hell it didn't make the toll raise when they renamed it..
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


I can't think of a single reason why either of those would be federally funded. Then the city should pay for it. Hold a bake sale or something.


One reason the Key Bridge is getting federal funding may be because that it is part of Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways, commonly known as the Interstate Highway System. That and because incompetent Moore has mismanaged Maryland's budget, and the billions Hogan left in the State's savings account when he left, as well as frittering away money on stupid projects.

About the stadium. . . . The area known as Washington, D.C., is considered the "Federal District Washington", or The Federal District of Washington, D.C., which is the capital city of the United States and is under the jurisdiction of the US Congress. So they can build a stadium if they, Congress, wants to build a new stadium, whether we want them to or not.

Congress gets this authority from the US Constitution in Article I, Section 8, Clause 17: In part: This clause grants Congress the authority to exercise exclusive legislation over a federal district (not exceeding ten miles square) .... and to exercise like authority over .... and for the erection of ... other needful buildings. Whether we have a need to spend billions for "other needful buildings" such as a stadium in DC is very debatable.

The Federal District of Washington, D.C. is also the Military District of Washington.

Here is the shoulder sleeve insignia worn by those soldiers serving in units that are part of, the Military District of Washington, which is headquartered at Fort McNair in Washington DC. Missions of the units in the Military District of Washington include ceremonial tasks as well as a combat role in the defense of the National Capital Region.

The more you know . . . . .

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Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
It’s just repulsive to see you folks act like this is anything but insanity.

The richest guy in the world convinced Trump the debt ceiling should be abolished, Trump told the house to torpedo the initial bill, then tried to get the debt ceiling eliminated, then tried to get it extended for two years, he got neither. He can’t negotiate, we saw it 4 years ago, he never got a republican congress to build the wall, and he won’t get sh*t done this time.
There’s nothing wrong with telling them it was overly pork laden and shouldn’t be passed in that form. Him trying to get something added that was going to make his job easier in the future is easily understandable even if it was hypocritical, you remember i agreed with that point. One thing you’ve missed though is that neither he nor Musk are in the negotiations, they’ve just got opinions for the next month. As of right now you’re opinion is premature and quite possibly just a figment of your biases.
 

WingsOfGold

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So the CR passed without Trump’s begging request for a debt ceiling extension. Even the republicans are over him.

The American people are gonna get what they deserve.
Dementia Joe got ran over and painful death by crackhead son???? What channel is it on?
 

WingsOfGold

Well-Known Member
He's not though. He's an international real estate mogul. The Apprentice thing was just a lark and it irks me when haters reduce his accomplishments to the dumbest thing he's famous for.

It's like Sean Duffy and the media constantly referring to him as a reality TV star. That was almost 30 years ago and since then he's been a five-term Congressman and Fox Business show host. He was a Wisconsin DA for four terms.

Let's stop being petty. It's unbecoming.
Funny thing is the ONLY time I saw Trump in any show business was Home Alone 2 I think for a second. NEVER watched apprentice.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
There’s nothing wrong with telling them it was overly pork laden and shouldn’t be passed in that form. Him trying to get something added that was going to make his job easier in the future is easily understandable even if it was hypocritical, you remember i agreed with that point. One thing you’ve missed though is that neither he nor Musk are in the negotiations, they’ve just got opinions for the next month. As of right now you’re opinion is premature and quite possibly just a figment of your biases.


Not sure what about compromise and the willingness to make deals they don't get about Trump. Everything, literally everything is a deal to him.
 
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