Don't Look at Your Portfolio!

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
Should we look at the Dow and Nasdaq YTD?
Are you a day trader?

Every major index is struggling now, not a secret, data are there for all to see. It will recover. We aren't entitled to a lifetime of Fed-juiced markets. All are fat, dumb, and happy when things are going well, but fail to prepare for down times in the normal Fed-controlled business cycle.

Are you adequately hedged is the question.

I am retired from my career, and while I have a small amount of "funny money" set aside for speculative investments, I'm not a day trader. But that chunk of money is out of the market at this time. Don't have time at the moment. Since I am retired, I'm not making regular contributions to retirement accounts, but now is the time when dollar cost averaging will be on the side of anyone working and contributing. I do understand why folks complain about whomever is in the EOP in a bear market, but really -- it will be OK. For folks on the cusp of retirement, they are a bit more concerned -- I get that too. It takes good decision making over a lifetime to be able to cope with bear markets.

I am not the least bit concerned.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Every major index is struggling now, not a secret, data are there for all to see. It will recover. We aren't entitled to a lifetime of Fed-juiced markets. All are fat, dumb, and happy when things are going well, but fail to prepare for down times in the normal Fed-controlled business cycle.

Are you adequately hedged is the question.

I am retired from my career, and while I have a small amount of "funny money" set aside for speculative investments, I'm not a day trader. But that chunk of money is out of the market at this time. Don't have time at the moment. Since I am retired, I'm not making regular contributions to retirement accounts, but now is the time when dollar cost averaging will be on the side of anyone working and contributing. I do understand why folks complain about whomever is in the EOP in a bear market, but really -- it will be OK. For folks on the cusp of retirement, they are a bit more concerned -- I get that too. It takes good decision making over a lifetime to be able to cope with bear markets.

I am not the least bit concerned.
Unfortunately, the masses are not as financially astute as you, and some others, are, if in fact you are that astute. I struggle with your comments here because they have some validity. Coming from you, that is a bit rare.
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
For your consideration ...


Unfortunately, the masses are not as financially astute as you, and some others, are, if in fact you are that astute. I struggle with your comments here because they have some validity. Coming from you, that is a bit rare.
You know man, I figure we're all here for a dick-sizing contest. Internet gamesmanship. Whatever. I do my best to play along. I don't see us as enemies, but rather as brothers in the service of Christ.

I give you a hard time with respect to your comments regarding the Fed, I don't know why. It feels natural to rebut. My position is that once you understand the Fed, you can make money off of their actions, and I do not share your hard resistance. At the end of the day, we are all trying to die with as much money as we can. My only real beef with the Fed is that "full employment" should not be part of their mandate.

We may have a meeting of the minds here, but the 16th Amendment is illegal and unconstitutional. 1913 was indeed a major turning point in terms of labor, the citizens, and the money the government is able to legally steal from us. Perhaps we should drink to that and figure out a way to move forward in unison.

I genuinely apologize for being a dick. :cheers:
 

Bluecrqbe

Active Member
You know man, I figure we're all here for a dick-sizing contest. Internet gamesmanship. Whatever. I do my best to play along. I don't see us as enemies, but rather as brothers in the service of Christ.

I give you a hard time with respect to your comments regarding the Fed, I don't know why. It feels natural to rebut. My position is that once you understand the Fed, you can make money off of their actions, and I do not share your hard resistance. At the end of the day, we are all trying to die with as much money as we can. My only real beef with the Fed is that "full employment" should not be part of their mandate.

We may have a meeting of the minds here, but the 16th Amendment is illegal and unconstitutional. 1913 was indeed a major turning point in terms of labor, the citizens, and the money the government is able to legally steal from us. Perhaps we should drink to that and figure out a way to move forward in unison.

I genuinely apologize for being a dick. :cheers:
Have you read their posts? I don’t even think the typical posters here respect them, it’s mostly toleration.

There’s no engagement with their posts, I wouldn’t waste your time.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Have you read their posts? I don’t even think the typical posters here respect them, it’s mostly toleration.

There’s no engagement with their posts, I wouldn’t waste your time.
:killingme I spend more time contemplating the nature of things I occasionally find stuck to the sole of my shoe than I do your posts. With excellent reason.
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
75bps - Such is the dirty work of cleaning up after the $8tn buffoon.
Serious question.
At what point does the great "fixer" and "uniter-in-chief" start accepting responsibility for what is going on?
It has been almost a year and a half since the past administration. When exactly does the new administration start accepting responsibility for the horror that is happening?
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Serious question.
At what point does the great "fixer" and "uniter-in-chief" start accepting responsibility for what is going on?
It has been almost a year and a half since the past administration. When exactly does the new administration start accepting responsibility for the horror that is happening?
He is only paid to attack Trump and defend Biden. One-trick pony...
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
Well Occom....The lunch bucket in chief has already laid out part of the strategy: 1) Get the Fed to crank up interest rates like its 1980....and 2) Blame the oil companies (Barry's "Fatcats on Wall St")...3) while pulling a page from Tokyo Rose ....sending out Ms Intersectionalty to claim the economy is booming...doing great!

I am unsure what act 4 or 5 is...but during summer recess, dozens of Dems better start either trying to run to the middle or pack their bags....I want it to be an utter bloodbath in November.
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
Serious question.
At what point does the great "fixer" and "uniter-in-chief" start accepting responsibility for what is going on?
It has been almost a year and a half since the past administration. When exactly does the new administration start accepting responsibility for the horror that is happening?

I don't know and don't much care. Have you asked someone who voted for him?
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
I don't know and don't much care. Have you asked someone who voted for him?
Don't care about who voted for who. What I was wondering is why (you) seem to blame the previous admin for just about every financial issue that is going on NOW. At what point does the current admin start sharing the blame? 2 years into it? 6 months before it ends? A year into the next admin??
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
Don't care about who voted for who. What I was wondering is why (you) seem to blame the previous admin for just about every financial issue that is going on NOW. At what point does the current admin start sharing the blame? 2 years into it? 6 months before it ends? A year into the next admin??
Well, OK. As I mentioned, there are 8 TRILLION reasons why.

The party of fiscal responsibility my a$$!!
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
Yes 8 trillion of bipartisan spending , how convenient that you always leave that extremely pertinent fact out.

Remind me again who signs the bills... ? How convenient you always forget that extremely pertinent fact. 👍

You sign it, you OWN it. If you don't want to own it, then veto it. If veto is overridden, then so be it. But then and only then can POTUS not own it.

Middle school civics.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
Remind me again who signs the bills... ? How convenient you always forget that extremely pertinent fact. 👍

You sign it, you OWN it. If you don't want to own it, then veto it. If veto is overridden, then so be it. But then and only then can POTUS not own it.

Middle school civics also tells you that spending bill originate in th house , some thing that the libs have controlled for nearly 4 years. Grow up little one and learn how our system works. Trying to wriggle out of 535 signatures then trying blame one person just shows how desperate you are.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

My position is that once you understand the Fed, you can make money off of their actions, and I do not share your hard resistance. At the end of the day, we are all trying to die with as much money as we can. My only real beef with the Fed is that "full employment" should not be part of their mandate.

We may have a meeting of the minds here, but the 16th Amendment is illegal and unconstitutional. 1913 was indeed a major turning point in terms of labor, the citizens, and the money the government is able to legally steal from us. Perhaps we should drink to that and figure out a way to move forward in unison.

I genuinely apologize for being a dick. :cheers:
Yes. Knowing the rules, how the game is played, who controls the game, its players, as well as the referees, is the way one can navigate what is the FED, the understanding of MMT, and the ancillaries that are the financial market swindlers, and profit from it. However, the masses are hypnotized by colorful brochures of investment schemes from banks to an IRA to 401K to pension contributions; lacking any education to understand what is being presented and the mechanics of how the system actually works and its very real and intentionally orchestrated manipulated pitfalls. They are brainwashed into believing the financial spigot's handle is broken off in the full open position, that they don't have to work as hard as everyone else, that everything is just fine and dandy, until the time when it isn't, and that handle is fixed and the spigot is closed. When, by taking responsibility for their financial future themselves, (not trusting a broker or financial advisors), living well within their means, and not looking for money where no labor on their part is required, would fare much better in the long term. (In today's debt money system).

The only resistance I have of the FED is from the abrogation of Congress' responsibility of allowing a private cabal of international bankers to issue our Nation's currency and its control, what was supposed to be performed by the people, per the Constitution.

Prior to 1913, there were no world wars. There was no personal wage, (so called income), tax. Of course, income, has always been defined a monies, not from wages, (where one trades their day's labor for a wage/money), but profits from investments, net profits in the course of operating a business, rents, interest received, etc.. Wages, being the personal property, the by product, of the labor provided by, and exchanged/paid to, the worker. Taxing the wages of workers, under the guise of "income", is theft, and makes one a slave to the State.

Full employment, though it may be a stated mission of the FED, is an act of subterfuge, a masquerade. The role of the FED is to siphon the wealth of this Nation, its resources and through the labor of the people. Full employment being a misnomer. Prior to 1913, responsible people could live thrifty and save for their own financial future without worry that those saved dollars would be worth less. Also, people/individuals could choose not to work at anytime for whatever reason knowing and having sufficient saved monies to tide them over during the time of not working. There was more quality leisure, more time for one to unwind. Unlike now under fraud that is the current debt based system.
 

phreddyp

Well-Known Member
Remind me again who signs the bills... ? How convenient you always forget that extremely pertinent fact. 👍

You sign it, you OWN it. If you don't want to own it, then veto it. If veto is overridden, then so be it. But then and only then can POTUS not own it.

Middle school civics.
You really don't have a clue.
1. Executive orders are owned entirely by POTUS
2. Partisan bills are passed entirely by one party .
3 Bipartisan bills are passed with approval of two or more parties.

Maybe you will understand now , but I doubt it.
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
Cleared out my portfolio from my private investing stash this AM...I am out. I have lost enough to say the Biden crash is long underway...I was a fool to think it might turn around. I refuse to look at the tens of thousands we have lost in retirement.
Elections have consequences...and it is clear the Dems chose to destroy the middle class & create a crisis of dependency.
Welcome to 1930.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Serious question.
At what point does the great "fixer" and "uniter-in-chief" start accepting responsibility for what is going on?
It has been almost a year and a half since the past administration. When exactly does the new administration start accepting responsibility for the horror that is happening?

Never. Barry spent 8 years blaming Bush for his **** ups. Then 10 seconds into the Trump administration the Democrats passed the mess off as his fault.
 
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