Don't want baby to reek of cigarette smoke

[K_Jo]

And the vast majority of them are still alive.

Think about it.

Although I've never heard of asbestos PJs.

I just got a set for Baby MJ. They're a little pricier than regular PJs, but the look on her face as she inhales the harmful toxins...priceless!

 

[Larry Gude]

Now you have me thinking. They used to have these commercials when I was a kid about the dangers of lead paint. They showed a little Hispanic toddler eating the peeling paint off a wall. No lie. Anyone else remember that?

I can remember thinking, "Why is that kid eating the paint off the wall?" because that was something I'd never seen before - a kid trying to eat a wall. And I then disregarded the dangers of lead paint, because I never ate walls and therefore was not likely to ever be poisoned by it.

The problems were rentals where the up keep wasn't so good...nor was the parenting.

 

[Cowgirl]

There was never anything 'wrong' with lead paint. There was always something wrong with EATING lead paint chips. Now, we've fixed that. You no longer have to worry about your child eating paint chips.

Wasn't there also the possibility that opening and closing windows (friction on the lead paint) would release particles in the air? Also, if a kid's toy (like a ball) hits the trim or something, paint could flake off (theoretically) and the kid could ingest it?

Anyways, there's a lead disclosure you have to sign if you purchase a house build before 1970-something because of the possibility of lead paint.

 

[vraiblonde]

Anyways, there's a lead disclosure you have to sign if you purchase a house build before 1970-something because of the possibility of lead paint.

And it doesn't strike you as odd that the billions of people who had lead paint prior to 1970 died mostly of old age in their beds, and not by lead paint poisoning?

 

[Dymphna]

My dad is a heavy smoker. He knows I don't like it. When he comes to my house and wants a cigarette, he takes it outside....rain, cold, whatever, he goes outside. It's about respecting the rules of my house.

When I go to his house he will leave the room to smoke if the baby's there, but if I carry the baby into the room where he's already smoking, that's my fault and I need to leave the room, not expect him to stop.

 

[Larry Gude]

Wasn't there also the possibility that opening and closing windows (friction on the lead paint) would release particles in the air? Also, if a kid's toy (like a ball) hits the trim or something, paint could flake off (theoretically) and the kid could ingest it?

Anyways, there's a lead disclosure you have to sign if you purchase a house build before 1970-something because of the possibility of lead paint.

Yes. There was also the possibility of falling down stairs, slipping in the tub and choking to death on peanut butter. No one seemed to care about that. At the time.

 

[vraiblonde]

Yes. There was also the possibility of falling down stairs, slipping in the tub and choking to death on peanut butter. No one seemed to care about that. At the time.

But they will - just you wait. You can drive yourself crazy worrying about all the things "they" say will kill you. Remember when bebe mama called me to inquire where our bananas came from, because she was worried that the girls would get a flesh-eating virus?

 

[Cowgirl]

And it doesn't strike you as odd that the billions of people who had lead paint prior to 1970 died mostly of old age in their beds, and not by lead paint poisoning?

Well, I'm not the type of person to take risks with things that have been proven to be harmful, especially when it comes to kids. Things that are easy to avoid (like lead paint and cig smoke) will be avoided. Things that can't be avoided (like riding in cars when there may be an accident) can't be avoided, but I can do my best to make sure they're safe in case something does happen.

 

[Larry Gude]

But they will - just you wait. You can drive yourself crazy worrying about all the things "they" say will kill you. Remember when bebe mama called me to inquire where our bananas came from, because she was worried that the girls would get a flesh-eating virus?

She should see about getting unreasonable stress outlawed.

 

[Larry Gude]

Well, I'm not the type of person to take risks with things that have been proven to be harmful, especially when it comes to kids. Things that are easy to avoid (like lead paint and cig smoke) will be avoided. Things that can't be avoided (like riding in cars when there may be an accident) can't be avoided, but I can do my best to make sure they're safe in case something does happen.

There is NO reason to use asbestos or lead paint when reasonable alternatives are available. However, the proposition that kids who eat lead paint need government to save them is missing the larger picture.

 

[Cowgirl]

There is NO reason to use asbestos or lead paint when reasonable alternatives are available. However, the proposition that kids who eat lead paint need government to save them is missing the larger picture.

I never said or insinuated that it needed government intervention.

 

[Larry Gude]

I never said or insinuated that it needed government intervention.

Look, just because you never read links is no reason to get snitty.

As I reached adult hood and realized the whole lead paint story, I'm with Vrai, it was like hey, isn't kids eating paint chips the larger, much larger problem?

 

[PrchJrkr]

I'm a smoker desparately trying to be a nonsmoker and have smoked for 27 years.

YOUR MOTHER LET YOU SMOKE WHEN YOU WERE 3 YEARS OLD???

 

[vraiblonde]

Well, I'm not the type of person to take risks with things that have been proven to be harmful,

There is nothing "proven" about second-hand smoke. It's all conjecture, and you have different findings on the subject from numerous researchers.

Yes, if you eat lead paint, it will hurt you. So will eating thumbtacks. And drinking Wite-Out. It seems more productive to me for parents to watch their kids and teach them not to eat non-food substances than it does to ban everything that could possibly injure or kill them if not used for its intended purpose.

Anyway, while interesting, this is way off topic. If OP doesn't want her child to be touched by smoke germs, that is certainly her right and she'll have to come to some sort of compromise with her mother.

 

[Cowgirl]

There is nothing "proven" about second-hand smoke. It's all conjecture, and you have different findings on the subject from numerous researchers.

Yes, if you eat lead paint, it will hurt you. So will eating thumbtacks. And drinking Wite-Out. It seems more productive to me for parents to watch their kids and teach them not to eat non-food substances than it does to ban everything that could possibly injure or kill them if not used for its intended purpose.

Anyway, while interesting, this is way off topic. If OP doesn't want her child to be touched by smoke germs, that is certainly her right and she'll have to come to some sort of compromise with her mother.

Ok, last post so the thread can get back on subject. I never mentioned banning anything. :shrug: You threw out that people have smoked for years. I pointed out that not everything that was done in the past is safe, and we're learning more and more every day.

 

[CalvertNewbie]

Your scr$wed anyway you look at it. Unless your mother is very understanding.

My ex-mother-in-law and father-inlaw were heavy smokers. My son was born full term, but ended up with RSV and reflux. They thought if they aired the house out before we came and sprayed a bunch of crap it would be ok. NOT, because it is in everything, walls, furniture, venting etc. etc... So going over there was not an option and his doctor even told her the samething. Them coming over to the house did not happen either because I asked kindly, if you are going to come over please do not smoke before you come. Now to this day the father side of the family has nothing to do with my son, but new reasons have come with that. They just refused to understand or care.

Good luck, but unless your mother is very understanding, I don't see an answer.

I can't not have a relationship with my Mom, we're way too close. I could never keep her from seeing her grandson, we'd both be heartbroken. As for the inlaws, hmmm....if only I had a reason to keep them away! JK, well kind of. lol.

Mom respects the fact that she can't smoke inside our home, she never has. She's used to it because the only house she can smoke inside of is her own, nobody else wants anyone smoking in their house either. I won't be able to bring our son to her house due to the smell but that's ok. I'll still make the trip up there when he's a little older & we can stay with my Gram or at a hotel. There's no way I could sleep there anyway, I never do when I go to NY. She would never actually smoke around him. I kind of feel like I'm over reacting by being concerned about the smell but I myself can't stand it. I don't want my son to smell like it everytime I pick him up.

Mom & I are going to have to chat soon. As much as I don't want to insult her feelings or make her feel like crap, I probably will. I just hope she understands where I'm coming from. She already knows how I feel about smoking in general so I guess the conversation may not be a complete shock to her.

And Vrai, we don't have to worry about the lead paint here and I'll also try to keep him away from thumbtacks & wite-out. Thanks everyone! Going back to my safe bubble now.

 

[Chasey_Lane]

I paint my nails in front of my daughter. Do you think she'll get cancer from second-hand nail polish remover?

 

[Geek]

I can't not have a relationship with my Mom, we're way too close. I could never keep her from seeing her grandson, we'd both be heartbroken. As for the inlaws, hmmm....if only I had a reason to keep them away! JK, well kind of. lol.

Mom respects the fact that she can't smoke inside our home, she never has. She's used to it because the only house she can smoke inside of is her own, nobody else wants anyone smoking in their house either. I won't be able to bring our son to her house due to the smell but that's ok. I'll still make the trip up there when he's a little older & we can stay with my Gram or at a hotel. There's no way I could sleep there anyway, I never do when I go to NY. She would never actually smoke around him. I kind of feel like I'm over reacting by being concerned about the smell but I myself can't stand it. I don't want my son to smell like it everytime I pick him up.

Mom & I are going to have to chat soon. As much as I don't want to insult her feelings or make her feel like crap, I probably will. I just hope she understands where I'm coming from. She already knows how I feel about smoking in general so I guess the conversation may not be a complete shock to her.

And Vrai, we don't have to worry about the lead paint here and I'll also try to keep him away from thumbtacks & wite-out. Thanks everyone! Going back to my safe bubble now.

Maybe when she stays with you she can smoke outside while wearing a coat, then leave coat on a hook outside or in a garage? Wash her hands when she comes in and maybe brush her teeth as well.

The first two weeks with your baby and getting to share that time with your mom will be worth the extra effort on her part and understanding on yours.

With your father's recent passing, I would try and include her as much as possible. Nothing can motivate people like a baby, if she was looking for a reason to quit.

And I am an anti smoking person for what it's worth.

 

[CalvertNewbie]

Maybe when she stays with you she can smoke outside while wearing a coat, then leave coat on a hook outside or in a garage? Wash her hands when she comes in and maybe brush her teeth as well.

The first two weeks with your baby and getting to share that time with your mom will be worth the extra effort on her part and understanding on yours.

With your father's recent passing, I would try and include her as much as possible. Nothing can motivate people like a baby, if she was looking for a reason to quit.

And I am an anti smoking person for what it's worth.

Thanks Geek, good idea. I definitely want her to enjoy her time w/ her grandson, especially because he's her first grandbaby & she lives out of state so it's not as though she'll get to see him every weekend. Maybe I'll just keep her so busy with him that she won't even have time to go outside!

She was really proud of herself for quitting before, especially because she beat cancer & it was kind of a new start for her. Then my Dad took a turn for the worse & she knew she was losing her soulmate. 39 years of marriage is a long time, they were highschool sweethearts. All of that is why I understand her starting to smoke again & I don't want to make her feel like crap about it. We're all still dealing with my Dad's passing & it's been really hard on all of us. Time for something happy to cheer us up!

 

[PrepH4U]

Thanks Geek, good idea. I definitely want her to enjoy her time w/ her grandson, especially because he's her first grandbaby & she lives out of state so it's not as though she'll get to see him every weekend. Maybe I'll just keep her so busy with him that she won't even have time to go outside!

She was really proud of herself for quitting before, especially because she beat cancer & it was kind of a new start for her. Then my Dad took a turn for the worse & she knew she was losing her soulmate. 39 years of marriage is a long time, they were highschool sweethearts. All of that is why I understand her starting to smoke again & I don't want to make her feel like crap about it. We're all still dealing with my Dad's passing & it's been really hard on all of us. Time for something happy to cheer us up!

Yes enjoy the time with her, you do realize how fragile time is. I am a smoker and was thinking about this situation. She already knows that she has to smoke outside, so thats a non-issue. Most people go and wash their hands before picking up a baby anyway. I understand you don't want the smell on the baby, so after they have play time together ask her to give him his bath. She would love that! The baby will be going through frequent outfit changes due to spit up and nasty diapers. So I really don't think the smoke smell will stay too long on him or you will be able to smell it over the spit up. :shrug: Let her pamper him, by changing his clothes and rubbing lotions on him. It will all be cool and memorable. I don't think I would even bring it up to her and risk hurting her feelings or ruining her visit. Burn candles and enjoy her visit.